Re: [mailop] LOUDMOUTHS WANTED!! ICANN WHOIS Replacement Work URGENT IMPORTANT ACTION NEEDED

2017-03-24 Thread John Levine
>Reasonable people are going to disagree about whether or not the >trade-offs involved in running the WHOIS system are worth it. Sure, but the arguments we're seeing at ICANN are way beyond reasonable. Everyone thinks it's important to protect the personal information of people, but most domains

Re: [mailop] LOUDMOUTHS WANTED!! ICANN WHOIS Replacement Work URGENT IMPORTANT ACTION NEEDED

2017-03-24 Thread John Levine
In article you write: >I agree with Mike on this one. Yes WHOISd does need a replacement, and I was >thinking that’s what RDAP was about. RDAP fixes the technical problems, replacing the ad-hoc port 43 cruft with a well specified system that uses standard JSON formatted data and standard http q

Re: [mailop] LOUDMOUTHS WANTED!! ICANN WHOIS Replacement Work URGENT IMPORTANT ACTION NEEDED

2017-03-24 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 03/24/2017 06:20 PM, John Levine wrote: In article <099901d2a4e5$b44bfab0$1ce3f010$@astutium.com> you write: PLEASE JOIN THE ICANN GROUP and help us fight back against people who are fighting in favour of crime. Utter bovine droppings. No-one on the ICANN RDS/PDP WG is fighting in favour o

Re: [mailop] LOUDMOUTHS WANTED!! ICANN WHOIS Replacement Work URGENT IMPORTANT ACTION NEEDED

2017-03-24 Thread Eric Tykwinski
I agree with Mike on this one. Yes WHOISd does need a replacement, and I was thinking that’s what RDAP was about. Getting rid of it entirely makes absolutely no sense, and will probably have many repercussions like everyone here has noted… I have no problems with private registrations, they shou

Re: [mailop] LOUDMOUTHS WANTED!! ICANN WHOIS Replacement Work URGENT IMPORTANT ACTION NEEDED

2017-03-24 Thread Michael Peddemors
On 17-03-24 02:29 PM, Rob Golding wrote: Is that referring to the possibility that companies who make their business parsing/trawling/storing whois data may not be able to sell the ~150 million registrant names/addresses/phone-numbers/emails for their own commercial gain on one suggested gated

Re: [mailop] LOUDMOUTHS WANTED!! ICANN WHOIS Replacement Work URGENT IMPORTANT ACTION NEEDED

2017-03-24 Thread Michael Wise via mailop
If a reliable WHOIS replacement is not proffered... The Pro-Privacy crowd will have all the privacy they want and more. Because I suspect, personally, not speaking for my employer, that there will be many, many places where their connects will be refused without recourse. Aloha, Michael. -

Re: [mailop] Spamhaus CSS listings of normal mail servers?

2017-03-24 Thread Robert L Mathews
On 3/24/17 3:08 PM, Steve Atkins wrote: > Write to spamhaus and ask. It could be one of your customers doing > something odd, it could be a misfire on something at spamhaus. If > you've done some due diligence before you write to them (with the IP > in the subject line, ideally) Thanks! Sadly, I'v

Re: [mailop] LOUDMOUTHS WANTED!! ICANN WHOIS Replacement Work URGENT IMPORTANT ACTION NEEDED

2017-03-24 Thread John Levine
In article <099901d2a4e5$b44bfab0$1ce3f010$@astutium.com> you write: >> PLEASE JOIN THE ICANN GROUP and help us fight back against people who >> are fighting in favour of crime. > >Utter bovine droppings. > >No-one on the ICANN RDS/PDP WG is fighting in favour of "crime". Thanks for this illustra

Re: [mailop] Spamhaus CSS listings of normal mail servers?

2017-03-24 Thread Steve Atkins
> On Mar 24, 2017, at 1:16 PM, Robert L Mathews wrote: > > Over the last two days, our outbound customer mail servers have been > repeatedly listed on the Spamhaus CSS ("snowshoe spammers"). This is > odd, because unless I'm misunderstanding, the Spamhaus CSS isn't > supposed to list "normal" ma

Re: [mailop] bulk-mailer amnesia (sendlabs, mailjet)

2017-03-24 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
Unfortunately, automated bounce handling to know what means "no more mails will ever go to this address" vs "some other mail might work" is not an exact science. Ie, mailman gets confused at DMARC rejects. The bounce handling when I worked on Y!Groups was very complicated, and involved sending pe

Re: [mailop] LOUDMOUTHS WANTED!! ICANN WHOIS Replacement Work URGENT IMPORTANT ACTION NEEDED

2017-03-24 Thread Neil Schwartzman
http://www.cauce.org/2017/03/loudmouths-wanted-icann-whois-replacement-work-urgent-important-action-needed.html > On Mar 24, 2017, at 5:30 PM, Rob McEwen wrote: > > On 3/24/2017 4:34 PM, Neil Schwartzman wrote: >> ICANN has yet another group looking at WHOIS, and there is ahuge push to >> redact

Re: [mailop] LOUDMOUTHS WANTED!! ICANN WHOIS Replacement Work URGENT IMPORTANT ACTION NEEDED

2017-03-24 Thread Rob McEwen
On 3/24/2017 4:34 PM, Neil Schwartzman wrote: ICANN has yet another group looking at WHOIS, and there is ahuge push to redact it to nothing. I spend easily half my day in WHOIS data fighting online crime, losing it would not make my job harder, it will make it impossible. Neil, I 100% agree wi

Re: [mailop] LOUDMOUTHS WANTED!! ICANN WHOIS Replacement Work URGENT IMPORTANT ACTION NEEDED

2017-03-24 Thread Rob Golding
If WHOIS interests you for whatever reason, then yes, please do get involved with the policy processes. In specific response this email ... > PLEASE JOIN THE ICANN GROUP and help us fight back against people who > are fighting in favour of crime. Utter bovine droppings. No-one on the ICANN RDS

[mailop] LOUDMOUTHS WANTED!! ICANN WHOIS Replacement Work URGENT IMPORTANT ACTION NEEDED

2017-03-24 Thread Neil Schwartzman
TL;DR? It’s worth reading, BUT, if not - ICANN has yet another group looking at WHOIS, and there is ahuge push to redact it to nothing. I spend easily half my day in WHOIS data fighting online crime, losing it would not make my job harder, it will make it impossible. PLEASE JOIN THE ICANN GROU

[mailop] Spamhaus CSS listings of normal mail servers?

2017-03-24 Thread Robert L Mathews
Over the last two days, our outbound customer mail servers have been repeatedly listed on the Spamhaus CSS ("snowshoe spammers"). This is odd, because unless I'm misunderstanding, the Spamhaus CSS isn't supposed to list "normal" mail servers (ours send hundreds of individual, non-bulk messages per

Re: [mailop] Fastwebnet.it blocking?

2017-03-24 Thread Stefano Bagnara
I never got answers from postmaster/abuse inboxes from Fastweb. Either your IP is in CloudMark CSI or your email content is flagged by CloudMark Authority. Try sending an email to a @libero.it inbox and if it goes to the spam folder you know it is CloudMark Authority and you also get the CloudMark

[mailop] Fastwebnet.it blocking?

2017-03-24 Thread Tim Starr
I have a client getting blocked by fastwebnet.it with this code: Error code is simply: 554 Message refused We're already trying abuse@/postmaster@ for both fastwebnet.it and fastweb.it. Does anyone know of any better way to contact them about this? -Tim __