Re: [mailop] [FEEDBACK] whose address, was Approach to dealing with List Washing services, industry feedback..

2020-01-26 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
On Sun, Jan 26, 2020 at 10:35 AM Andrew C Aitchison via mailop < mailop@mailop.org> wrote: > On Sun, 26 Jan 2020, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: > > > Similar thing happened to me recently when I wanted to re-login to one of > > those test accounts from my home computer, but I installed a new

Re: [mailop] whose address, was Approach to dealing with List Washing services, industry feedback..

2020-01-26 Thread Bill Cole via mailop
On 26 Jan 2020, at 19:23, Ángel via mailop wrote: On 2020-01-26 at 19:30 +, John Levine via mailop wrote: In article , Andrew C Aitchison via mailop wrote: I have lost enough physical keys over the years to worry about what happens if I lose my phone (which does not have a finger print

Re: [mailop] [FEEDBACK] whose address, was Approach to dealing with List Washing services, industry feedback..

2020-01-26 Thread John Levine via mailop
In article <1580084583.939.2.ca...@16bits.net>, Ángel via mailop wrote: >> I like TOTP codes because you can install the keys into multiple apps ... >Not supported by Google, though. The gmail app on my phone would be surprised to hear that, since I've been logging in with TOTP codes for years.

Re: [mailop] Is there anyone from Telstra Bigpond here?

2020-01-26 Thread Brad King via mailop
I've also replied off-list. Cheers, Brad On Mon, 27 Jan 2020, 09:52 Mark Dale via mailop, wrote: > > Hi, > > Is there anyone from Telstra Bigpond here? > > We're seeing list emails from our UK server get blocked, and we've had > no response from postmas...@bigpond.com (who the NDR advises to

Re: [mailop] Is there anyone from Telstra Bigpond here?

2020-01-26 Thread Noel Butler via mailop
see offlist mail On 27/01/2020 08:49, Mark Dale via mailop wrote: > Hi, > > Is there anyone from Telstra Bigpond here? > > We're seeing list emails from our UK server get blocked, and we've had > no response from postmas...@bigpond.com (who the NDR advises to contact). > > Thanks, > Mark >

[mailop] Is there anyone from Telstra Bigpond here?

2020-01-26 Thread Mark Dale via mailop
Hi, Is there anyone from Telstra Bigpond here? We're seeing list emails from our UK server get blocked, and we've had no response from postmas...@bigpond.com (who the NDR advises to contact). Thanks, Mark MailmanLists ___ mailop mailing list

Re: [mailop] [FEEDBACK] whose address, was Approach to dealing with List Washing services, industry feedback..

2020-01-26 Thread John Levine via mailop
In article , Andrew C Aitchison via mailop wrote: >I have lost enough physical keys over the years to worry about what >happens if I lose my phone (which does not have a finger print reader) ... I like TOTP codes because you can install the keys into multiple apps on multiple devices, and since

Re: [mailop] [FEEDBACK] whose address, was Approach to dealing with List Washing services, industry feedback..

2020-01-26 Thread Raymond Burkholder via mailop
On 2020-01-26 11:32 a.m., Andrew C Aitchison via mailop wrote: On Sun, 26 Jan 2020, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: Similar thing happened to me recently when I wanted to re-login to one of those test accounts from my home computer, but I installed a new browser which was not yet used with

Re: [mailop] [FEEDBACK] whose address, was Approach to dealing with List Washing services, industry feedback..

2020-01-26 Thread Andrew C Aitchison via mailop
On Sun, 26 Jan 2020, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: Similar thing happened to me recently when I wanted to re-login to one of those test accounts from my home computer, but I installed a new browser which was not yet used with that account. Usually there are no problems in such a case, but my

Re: [mailop] Messages from small personal SMTP server being marked as junk by Google

2020-01-26 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 24.01.2020 o godz. 15:11:58 Brandon Long via mailop pisze: > > There is no way to guarantee that a first-time email arrives in the inbox. > > If there was, the spammers would all use it. > > The best you can do is "attach" your email to some existing source of > reputation. >

Re: [mailop] Messages from small personal SMTP server being marked as junk by Google

2020-01-26 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 26.01.2020 o godz. 00:15:58 Ángel via mailop pisze: > The problem is that it seems that Gmail is pulling your leg. A technical > explanation ("We marked it as spam because the sender says any mails > sent from that server are not from him [SPF and DMARC link]") would be > fine, as it would

Re: [mailop] [FEEDBACK] whose address, was Approach to dealing with List Washing services, industry feedback..

2020-01-26 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 26.01.2020 o godz. 02:30:57 Ángel via mailop pisze: > The safest way to avoid this dance seems to be not to provide > any phone at all (or one for every user, perhaps, which is also > suboptimal). Not providing a phone number at all also doesn't help sometimes. As I have already written,