Re: [mailop] [External] Re: Horrible week for email deliverability - Looking for help with RackSpace/Emailsrvr

> On 26 Mar 2020, at 16:45, Kevin A. McGrail via mailop > wrote: > > > On 3/26/2020 12:37 PM, John Levine wrote: >> In article <62e55123-d1d0-f67b-9d03-191c8caaa...@pccc.com> you write: >> >>> We're a small ESP but respected and vigilant anti-spam community >>> members. However, our mail vol

Re: [mailop] [External] Re: Horrible week for email deliverability - Looking for help with RackSpace/Emailsrvr

On 27/03/2020 08:32, Laura Atkins via mailop wrote: You have folks using a bulk ESP to send friends and family email? Do you have a free package or something that makes it appealing for individuals to go through all the work of setting up an ESP account just to send personal mail to their frien

Re: [mailop] [External] Re: Horrible week for email deliverability - Looking for help with RackSpace/Emailsrvr

> On 27 Mar 2020, at 09:05, Paul Smith via mailop wrote: > > On 27/03/2020 08:32, Laura Atkins via mailop wrote: >> You have folks using a bulk ESP to send friends and family email? Do you >> have a free package or something that makes it appealing for individuals to >> go through all the work

Re: [mailop] [External] Re: Horrible week for email deliverability - Looking for help with RackSpace/Emailsrvr

On 27/03/2020 09:58, Laura Atkins wrote: I understand why you consider yourself an ESP. That’s not how i would refer to you. You’re an email hosting provider, because you host both the inbound and the outbound piece of mail. ESPs handle outbound, and the necessary bits of inbound to make SMT

[mailop] Web.de-GMX.de SMTP Failuer

Hello Mailops, We made changes on NS one month ago. But We are getting this error by web.de, smtp;554 gmx.net (mxgmx117) Nemesis ESMTP Service not available No SMTP service Bad DNS PTR resource record. For explanation visit https://www.gmx.net/mail/senderguidelines?ip=185.11.212.49&c=rdns

Re: [mailop] Web.de-GMX.de SMTP Failuer

I just wrote you off-list. //Arne Am 27.03.2020 um 13:26 schrieb Emre Üst via mailop mailto:mailop@mailop.org>>: Hello Mailops, We made changes on NS one month ago. But We are getting this error by web.de, smtp;554 gmx.net (mxgmx117) Nemesis ESMTP Service not

[mailop] Microsoft MSN JMRP SNDS support

Hello, does anyone have contacts for the JMRP SNDS support? We need to change the complaint address for the JMRP FBLs, but the SNDS service doesn't allow us to do that for some reason (no option edit or manage the existing feed), nor it allows to set up a new feed with the same IPs (feed can be

Re: [mailop] [External] Re: Horrible week for email deliverability - Looking for help with RackSpace/Emailsrvr

On 3/27/2020 4:32 AM, Laura Atkins wrote: > All in all, I think you need to look a lot harder at what your free > customers are sending to their “friends and family” and think harder > about restricting their ability to cause problems for your paying > customers. Just a note, we don't have free cu

Re: [mailop] [External] Re: Horrible week for email deliverability - Looking for help with RackSpace/Emailsrvr

In article you write: >-=-=-=-=-=- >-=-=-=-=-=- > >On 3/26/20 11:20 AM, John R Levine via mailop wrote: >> As I'm sure you're aware, we've seen way too much spam from people who >> imagine that COVID is an excuse to reanimate zombie lists. > >Is there any precedent on how fresh / recent the "est

Re: [mailop] Microsoft MSN JMRP SNDS support

On 27/03/2020 14:05, Dima Gomonyk via mailop wrote: Hello, does anyone have contacts for the JMRP SNDS support? We need to change the complaint address for the JMRP FBLs, but the SNDS service doesn't allow us to do that for some reason (no option edit or manage the existing feed), nor it allow

[mailop] Happy Friday.. NOT! It's an outbreak day..

Hi All, A short form version of my weekly 'lay of the land' email, and might be a little quiet the next two weeks Early reports show a huge increase in compromised email account spam, and from first appearances it looks like a well know control panel (cPanel) was targeted for this one.. Unfo

Re: [mailop] [External] Re: Horrible week for email deliverability - Looking for help with RackSpace/Emailsrvr

On 3/27/2020 6:25 AM, Paul Smith via mailop wrote: >> If the original poster meant something different by ESP, I >> misunderstood their terminology. >> > That's fine. It's worth clarifying terminology. Hi All, Great point about terminology.  I'm the CEO emeritus for Peregrine Computer Consultants

Re: [mailop] what is spam was Re: [External] Re: Horrible week for email deliverability - Looking for help with RackSpace/Emailsrvr

On 3/27/2020 11:43 AM, John Levine via mailop wrote: > In article > you write: >> -=-=-=-=-=- >> -=-=-=-=-=- >> >> On 3/26/20 11:20 AM, John R Levine via mailop wrote: >>> As I'm sure you're aware, we've seen way too much spam from people who >>> imagine that COVID is an excuse to reanimate zomb

Re: [mailop] what is spam was Re: [External] Re: Horrible week for email deliverability - Looking for help with RackSpace/Emailsrvr

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: And I take a the approach that there are implicit consent in transactions.  For example, you buy something from XYZ big box store's website.  There is a 100% implicit consent that you can receive emails about that order such as a receipt and shipping s

Re: [mailop] [External] Re: Horrible week for email deliverability - Looking for help with RackSpace/Emailsrvr

> Is there any precedent on how fresh / recent the "established business > relationship" must be to cover sending largely superfluous email? Sure, simple. If it is superfluous, don't send it. > If it's been less than a year since I conducted business with the sender and > they have an unsubsc

Re: [mailop] what is spam was Re: [External] Re: Horrible week for email deliverability - Looking for help with RackSpace/Emailsrvr

On 3/27/20 11:31, John R Levine via mailop wrote: On Fri, 27 Mar 2020, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: And I take a the approach that there are implicit consent in transactions.  For example, you buy something from XYZ big box store's website.  There is a 100% implicit consent that you can receive email

Re: [mailop] HaveIBeenPwned Was: Abusix Potentially Compromised Account Report

Not trying to rehash things, but while catching up on reading; On 3/24/20 11:52 AM, Michael Peddemors via mailop wrote: > On 2020-03-24 9:35 a.m., micah anderson via mailop wrote: >> Steve Freegard via mailop writes: >> >>> I included the partial SHA-1 to be compatible with automation and >>> too

Re: [mailop] [External] Re: Horrible week for email deliverability - Looking for help with RackSpace/Emailsrvr

Everybody is talking past each other with different scenarios in mind and each has different answers. How useful can that be? ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop

Re: [mailop] what is spam was Re: [External] Re: Horrible week for email deliverability - Looking for help with RackSpace/Emailsrvr

On 3/27/20 11:42 AM, Kevin A. McGrail via mailop wrote: I think the problem is what do you consider evidence of spam to then actually block that email? I don't have an answer to this. I use the definition from Chris Santere that *spam is about consent NOT content.* I agree. And I take a th

Re: [mailop] what is spam was Re: [External] Re: Horrible week for email deliverability - Looking for help with RackSpace/Emailsrvr

On 3/27/2020 5:21 PM, Grant Taylor via mailop wrote: > I believe that what the consent covers needs to be refined. > > Consent to receive transactional email is not implicit consent to > receive non-transactional emails. For non transaction emails like adverts afterwards, I typically look in detai

Re: [mailop] HaveIBeenPwned Was: Abusix Potentially Compromised Account Report

On 3/27/20 1:27 AM, Larry M. Smith via mailop wrote: > .. I see _no_ value in the millions of hashes (over 196M) that appear to > have only ever been exposed once. No one is going to load up and > attempt a dictionary attack of those used-only-once hashes. It sure as > heck doesn't mean a thing

Re: [mailop] what is spam

On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 06:17:01PM -0400, Kevin A. McGrail via mailop wrote: > On 3/27/2020 5:21 PM, Grant Taylor via mailop wrote: > > I believe that what the consent covers needs to be refined. > > > > Consent to receive transactional email is not implicit consent to > > receive non-transactional