Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: Registered @ Microsoft JMRP - blacklisted without feedback received

Am 12.05.21 um 08:13 schrieb Michael Rathbun via mailop: > > You may wish to take into account economic realities. > > YOU are not a Microsoft customer. > The RECIPIENTS are not Microsoft customers. > > None of the above parties pays Microsoft a cent. Yet at the same time Microsoft expects "the wo

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: Registered @ Microsoft JMRP - blacklisted without feedback received

On Tue, 11 May 2021 19:45:28 +0200, André Peters via mailop wrote: >What is this crap good for when it sends one out of 1000? &c. &c. You may wish to take into account economic realities. YOU are not a Microsoft customer. The RECIPIENTS are not Microsoft customers. None of the above parties

Re: [mailop] Haraka status? Exim the only choice? (v Postfix)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 - -- Originalnachricht -- Von: "Ralph Seichter via mailop" An: mailop@mailop.org Gesendet: 12.05.2021 03:26:07 Betreff: Re: [mailop] Haraka status? Exim the only choice? (v Postfix) * Vsevolod Stakhov via mailop: I would still recommen

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: Registered @ Microsoft JMRP - blacklisted without feedback received

S3150 is throttling. Open a ticket and ask for a more realistic hourly/daily throttle limit. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Open a ticket for Hotmail ? -Origina

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: Registered @ Microsoft JMRP - blacklisted without feedback received

On Tue, 11 May 2021 at 19:31, Michael Wise via mailop wrote: > JMRP doesn’t send every email reported as spam to the sender. > Last I heard, it was 1 in 1,000 or some such. > This is to prevent listwashing, as should be obvious. But what about SNDS "Complaint rate" and "Trap hits"? Are they about

Re: [mailop] Haraka status? Exim the only choice? (v Postfix)

* Vsevolod Stakhov via mailop: > I would still recommend to use Rspamd for regular expressions > matching. That figures. :-) > you won't need any other milters when using Rspamd: no OpenDKIM/DMARC, > no additional spam/bayes engine, even no AV milters - all these tasks > could be done via Rspamd

Re: [mailop] Anyone from Cisco Talos IP/domain reputation team?

Similarly, I'd love to get a contact with them. Have a domain which appears on one of their lists about every few months, and after going back and forth a bit on tickets, gets removed every few months, only to have it re-added under the same bogus justification a few months later. Would be nice t

Re: [mailop] Registered @ Microsoft JMRP - blacklisted without feedback received

Try contacting Microsoft about it. You will be greeted by their incompetent copy/paste bot army which will not help you at all. And their SNDS / JMPR is never helpful. M. Omer GOLGELI --- May 11, 2021 2:54 PM, "Benoit Panizzon via mailop" wrote: > Dear List > > One of our main smtp outb

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: Registered @ Microsoft JMRP - blacklisted without feedback received

Not to really defend Microsoft here - because I've had my own run-ins with their system and agree that it doesn't make a lot of sense. But this isn't an only-Microsoft problem. Pretty much every big-name mail service provider will employ similar tactics in some capacity. I get it... Microsoft an

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: Registered @ Microsoft JMRP - blacklisted without feedback received

> On May 11, 2021, at 11:45 AM, André Peters via mailop > wrote: > > because you MS guys are so clever, I'd like to suggest that personal attacks, *especially* on such a trusted, respected member of the community - not to mention one who is one of the good guys, is not only unwarranted, but

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: Registered @ Microsoft JMRP - blacklisted without feedback received

On 11.05.21 19:45, André Peters via mailop wrote: > What is this crap good for when it sends one out of 1000? There was not > a single spam mail that left our system. It was an unwanted mail, not > spam but just a message they did not like. We have hard rate limits and > a no mass mail policy. We

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: Registered @ Microsoft JMRP - blacklisted without feedback received

What is this crap good for when it sends one out of 1000? There was not a single spam mail that left our system. It was an unwanted mail, not spam but just a message they did not like. We have hard rate limits and a no mass mail policy. We also check ridiculously detailed for patterns of spam.

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: Registered @ Microsoft JMRP - blacklisted without feedback received

JMRP doesn't send every email reported as spam to the sender. Last I heard, it was 1 in 1,000 or some such. This is to prevent listwashing, as should be obvious. And just ONE mail sent to the wrong address ... well ... that can get a whole lot of IPs blocked if it looks suspicious in the eyes of

Re: [mailop] Registered @ Microsoft JMRP - blacklisted without feedback received

IMO it's a totally useless system. We have had ASNs blocked without a single complaint prior to it. Not a single one. Once every 2-3 month we get a complaint and contact the complaining person. Out of ~10 times it was only ONCE a mail, that the rcpt did not want to receive. If you want to

Re: [mailop] Registered @ Microsoft JMRP - blacklisted without feedback received

Given you are the service provider, the best place to look is in your abuse queue. Look for complaints about mail from that IP (and surrounding IPs) going back for a while. Typically, the consumer ISPs will put mail in the bulk folder for a while before escalating to a block. When the mail is go

[mailop] Registered @ Microsoft JMRP - blacklisted without feedback received

Dear List One of our main smtp outbound ip addresses is blocked by microsoft. host outlook-com.olc.protection.outlook.com[104.47.10.33] said: 550 5.7.1 Unfortunately, messages from [157.161.12.84] weren't sent. Please contact your Internet service provider since part of their network is on our bl