Re: [mailop] DKIM signed with parent domain

2024-01-25 Thread Ilja Nedilko via mailop
I'm also very curious about this, we will actually attempt to do this with an external vendor later today using Amazom SES, but all parties are unsure about the DKIM handling here. In our case we will be using selector for subdomain.domain.tld, and e-mail from sub.subdomain.domain.tld. Best

Re: [mailop] Is Google jumping the gun for SPF / DKIM requirement?

2024-01-25 Thread Grant Taylor via mailop
On 1/25/24 01:12, Marco Moock via mailop wrote: Both don't pass here, so fix SPF and try again. I would hope that redacted.example.net and 192.0.2.1 fail. redacted.example.net is part of one of the (few) names reserved for documentation; specifically example.net. Likewise 192.0.2.1 is part

Re: [mailop] Extortion spam from OVH-hosted *.sbs domains

2024-01-25 Thread John Levine via mailop
According to Randolf Richardson, Postmaster via mailop : > I'm just chiming in here with some support for you because I know a >few people who use OVH as well. > > Blocking on a case-by-case basis is the better approach so that >legitimate (non-spamming) hosts aren't penalized.

Re: [mailop] Extortion spam from OVH-hosted *.sbs domains

2024-01-25 Thread John Levine via mailop
It appears that Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop said: >Dnia 25.01.2024 o godz. 07:10:13 Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop pisze: >> It's probably pointless to call for a general OVH boycott, as much as I >> would like to do that :-) > >I would be the first to object to that, because my server is hosted at

Re: [mailop] DKIM signed with parent domain

2024-01-25 Thread Anne Mitchell via mailop
> On Jan 25, 2024, at 3:24 PM, Byron Lunz via mailop wrote: > > Or, you can use https://aboutmy.email/ - not affiliated, just a pleased user. Yes, absolutely, aboutmy.email rocks! And, is offered by a very trusted source! Anne --- Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. Email Law & Policy Attorney CEO

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: MTA-STS: No TLS reports from Google since January 9th

2024-01-25 Thread Brotman, Alex via mailop
I did start getting reports again, I haven't looked to see if they're consistently appearing -- Alex Brotman Sr. Engineer, Anti-Abuse & Messaging Policy Comcast > -Original Message- > From: mailop On Behalf Of Byung-Hee HWANG > via mailop > Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2024 10:02 AM

Re: [mailop] DKIM signed with parent domain

2024-01-25 Thread Byron Lunz via mailop
Or, you can use https://aboutmy.email/ - not affiliated, just a pleased user. On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 11:49 AM Randolf Richardson, Postmaster via mailop < mailop@mailop.org> wrote: > Feel free to contact me off-list if you'd like to send some test > messages -- I can send back the

Re: [mailop] Spamcop from a forwarding standpoint

2024-01-25 Thread Cyril - ImprovMX via mailop
Thank you Richard, I'll reach out outside of the list. Best, Cyril Le jeu. 25 janv. 2024 à 17:23, Thomas Mechtersheimer via mailop < mailop@mailop.org> a écrit : > About 20 years ago I was able to register IP addresses of our > designated mail forwarding servers at SpamCop (via mail to >

Re: [mailop] DKIM signed with parent domain

2024-01-25 Thread Randolf Richardson, Postmaster via mailop
Feel free to contact me off-list if you'd like to send some test messages -- I can send back the results of the DKIM and DMARC checks. My eMail address is: postmas...@inter-corporate.com > Hello! > > At work we are currently deploying DKIM. > > Do people here have experience

Re: [mailop] Extortion spam from OVH-hosted *.sbs domains

2024-01-25 Thread Russell Clemings via mailop
If the scammers actually had such a video, wouldn't they include a screenshot? On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 9:03 AM Peter N. M. Hansteen via mailop < mailop@mailop.org> wrote: > On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 07:10:13AM +0100, Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop > wrote: > > Tonight we received a huge wave of

Re: [mailop] [Phishtank-users] Phish report (registration is disabled)

2024-01-25 Thread Randolf Richardson, Postmaster via mailop
[sNip] I apologize. I sent this to the wrong address. Please disregard. -- Postmaster - postmas...@inter-corporate.com Randolf Richardson, CNA - rand...@inter-corporate.com Inter-Corporate Computer & Network Services, Inc. Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

Re: [mailop] Extortion spam from OVH-hosted *.sbs domains

2024-01-25 Thread Randolf Richardson, Postmaster via mailop
> Dnia 25.01.2024 o godz. 07:10:13 Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop pisze: > > It's probably pointless to call for a general OVH boycott, as much as I > > would like to do that :-) > > I would be the first to object to that, because my server is hosted at OVH :) I'm just chiming in here

Re: [mailop] [Phishtank-users] Phish report (registration is disabled)

2024-01-25 Thread Randolf Richardson, Postmaster via mailop
I'd like to register so that I can contribute too, but I'm seeing the same message that registrations are disabled: Phishtank :: Register https://www.phishtank.com/register.php "X New user registration temporarily disabled."

Re: [mailop] Extortion spam from OVH-hosted *.sbs domains

2024-01-25 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen via mailop
On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 07:10:13AM +0100, Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop wrote: > Tonight we received a huge wave of extortion spams from OVH hosted domains > trying to get bitcoin payments. The senders claim that recipients watched > child porn. Your customers might find a tiny bit of solace in

Re: [mailop] Extortion spam from OVH-hosted *.sbs domains

2024-01-25 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG via mailop
Hellow Jaroslaw, On Thu, 2024-01-25 at 10:13 +0100, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: > Dnia 25.01.2024 o godz. 07:10:13 Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop pisze: > > It's probably pointless to call for a general OVH boycott, as much > > as I > > would like to do that :-) > > I would be the first to

Re: [mailop] Spamcop from a forwarding standpoint

2024-01-25 Thread Thomas Mechtersheimer via mailop
About 20 years ago I was able to register IP addresses of our designated mail forwarding servers at SpamCop (via mail to deput...@admin.spamcop.net), so that they would not get listed, and we don't receive reports for those. This still seems to be active today. Unfortunately I have not been able

Re: [mailop] DKIM signed with parent domain

2024-01-25 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG via mailop
Hellow Marco, On Thu, 2024-01-25 at 16:17 +0100, Marco Moock via mailop wrote: > Hello! > > At work we are currently deploying DKIM. > > Do people here have experience with messages from sub.example.org > signed with d=example.org? > That way is much easier to handle for us because we have a

Re: [mailop] puzzling rejections from icloud

2024-01-25 Thread Jason Wright via mailop
We're experiencing the same issue with Apple when aligning DKIM with the FROM and passing SPF with the sender. Sincerely, Jason Wright *Postmaster & Jr. Systems Engineer* ONTRAPORT | Support Center | Schedule a Screenshare

Re: [mailop] Spamcop from a forwarding standpoint

2024-01-25 Thread Richard W via mailop
Andy has the right answer here, but sometimes there are some other tweeks I do. Send me a couple of report numbers and I'll look, or I can force the user to mailhost records. service @ spamcop.net Richard On 2024-01-25 3:30 a.m., Andy Smith via mailop wrote: Hi, On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at

[mailop] DKIM signed with parent domain

2024-01-25 Thread Marco Moock via mailop
Hello! At work we are currently deploying DKIM. Do people here have experience with messages from sub.example.org signed with d=example.org? That way is much easier to handle for us because we have a lot of domains (machines sending with r...@hostname.example.org etc.). Will Google accept such

[mailop] puzzling rejections from icloud

2024-01-25 Thread Julian Bradfield via mailop
I run some small mailing lists for a club, and there's one member with an address at icloud.com that rejects (with a generic "policy" message) many of the messages sent to the club lists. Sometimes it's possibly explicable because the message was sent by somebody whose provider doesn't DKIM-sign.

Re: [mailop] MTA-STS: No TLS reports from Google since January 9th

2024-01-25 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG via mailop
On Thu, 2024-01-25 at 15:26 +0100, Paul Menzel via mailop wrote: > Dear mail operators, > > > Am 17.01.24 um 10:04 schrieb Paul Menzel via mailop: > > > Since January 9th, 2024 we have not received any (MTA-STS) TLS > > reports > > from google.com (noreply-smtp-tls-report...@google.com). We

Re: [mailop] MTA-STS: No TLS reports from Google since January 9th

2024-01-25 Thread Paul Menzel via mailop
Dear mail operators, Am 17.01.24 um 10:04 schrieb Paul Menzel via mailop: Since January 9th, 2024 we have not received any (MTA-STS) TLS reports from google.com (noreply-smtp-tls-report...@google.com). We still get TLS reports from other organizations. Does somebody know more? I got one

Re: [mailop] Spamcop from a forwarding standpoint

2024-01-25 Thread Michael via mailop
Interesting note in passing, some customers who also had spamcop in their RBL listing has noted that even some Microsoft outgoing IPs are appearing on that RBL.. (cannot confirm) Not that they don't deserve it, but rejecting based on that RBL might cause some grief, better to use it as a

Re: [mailop] Spamcop from a forwarding standpoint

2024-01-25 Thread Cyril - ImprovMX via mailop
Thank you Andy, I've been in touch with some users and they are generally open minded. I think the link you shared is really helpful and it will definitely help everyone (us, the user, spamcop), so thank you very much for that! Best, Cyril Le jeu. 25 janv. 2024 à 10:52, Andy Smith via mailop a

Re: [mailop] Spamcop from a forwarding standpoint

2024-01-25 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hi, On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 09:58:17AM +0100, Cyril - ImprovMX via mailop wrote: > Unfortunately for us, Spamcop believe we are the one sending spam when they > trace back the Received headers, because we are the last hop before landing > to that user's inbox. > > Is there a way to tell in the

Re: [mailop] Extortion spam from OVH-hosted *.sbs domains

2024-01-25 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 25.01.2024 o godz. 07:10:13 Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop pisze: > It's probably pointless to call for a general OVH boycott, as much as I > would like to do that :-) I would be the first to object to that, because my server is hosted at OVH :) -- Regards, Jaroslaw Rafa

Re: [mailop] Is Google jumping the gun for SPF / DKIM requirement?

2024-01-25 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 24.01.2024 o godz. 21:48:39 Grant Taylor via mailop pisze: > > Am I missing something obvious or has Google started implementing > this new requirement ahead of their published schedule? > > The only surprise to me is that this happened ~8 days before the > published February 1st date.

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Is Google jumping the gun for SPF / DKIM requirement?

2024-01-25 Thread Marcel Becker via mailop
On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 12:09 AM Thomas Walter via mailop wrote: That said: Does anyone know if Google identifies "senders" by > From:-Domain or IP? > It's documented: https://wordtothewise.com/2024/01/yahoogle-faqs/ (And I keep using Steve's blog post so I don't have to remember the URLs

[mailop] Spamcop from a forwarding standpoint

2024-01-25 Thread Cyril - ImprovMX via mailop
Hey everyone! I'm running ImprovMX.com, an email forwarding service and I'd appreciate your advice on a situation I can't find a solution for. Some of my users are using Spamcop to notify them of spam abuse, which is good thing to do to fight spam. Unfortunately for us, Spamcop believe we are

Re: [mailop] Is Google jumping the gun for SPF / DKIM requirement?

2024-01-25 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
> On 25 Jan 2024, at 07:57, Thomas Walter via mailop wrote: > > Moin, > > On 25.01.24 04:48, Grant Taylor via mailop wrote: >> I knew that Google was going to start requiring SPF or DKIM (in addition to >> other sender guidelines [1]. But I thought they were starting February 1st, >> per

Re: [mailop] Is Google jumping the gun for SPF / DKIM requirement?

2024-01-25 Thread Thomas Walter via mailop
Moin, On 25.01.24 04:48, Grant Taylor via mailop wrote: I knew that Google was going to start requiring SPF or DKIM (in addition to other sender guidelines [1].  But I thought they were starting February 1st, per their own sender guidelines. Just to clarify, because some of our customers