Re: [mailop] Spamcop from a forwarding standpoint

Thank you Richard, I'll reach out outside of the list. Best, Cyril Le jeu. 25 janv. 2024 à 17:23, Thomas Mechtersheimer via mailop < mailop@mailop.org> a écrit : > About 20 years ago I was able to register IP addresses of our > designated mail forwarding servers at SpamCop (via mail to >

Re: [mailop] Spamcop from a forwarding standpoint

About 20 years ago I was able to register IP addresses of our designated mail forwarding servers at SpamCop (via mail to deput...@admin.spamcop.net), so that they would not get listed, and we don't receive reports for those. This still seems to be active today. Unfortunately I have not been able

Re: [mailop] Spamcop from a forwarding standpoint

Andy has the right answer here, but sometimes there are some other tweeks I do. Send me a couple of report numbers and I'll look, or I can force the user to mailhost records. service @ spamcop.net Richard On 2024-01-25 3:30 a.m., Andy Smith via mailop wrote: Hi, On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at

Re: [mailop] Spamcop from a forwarding standpoint

Interesting note in passing, some customers who also had spamcop in their RBL listing has noted that even some Microsoft outgoing IPs are appearing on that RBL.. (cannot confirm) Not that they don't deserve it, but rejecting based on that RBL might cause some grief, better to use it as a

Re: [mailop] Spamcop from a forwarding standpoint

Thank you Andy, I've been in touch with some users and they are generally open minded. I think the link you shared is really helpful and it will definitely help everyone (us, the user, spamcop), so thank you very much for that! Best, Cyril Le jeu. 25 janv. 2024 à 10:52, Andy Smith via mailop a

Re: [mailop] Spamcop from a forwarding standpoint

Hi, On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 09:58:17AM +0100, Cyril - ImprovMX via mailop wrote: > Unfortunately for us, Spamcop believe we are the one sending spam when they > trace back the Received headers, because we are the last hop before landing > to that user's inbox. > > Is there a way to tell in the

[mailop] Spamcop from a forwarding standpoint

Hey everyone! I'm running ImprovMX.com, an email forwarding service and I'd appreciate your advice on a situation I can't find a solution for. Some of my users are using Spamcop to notify them of spam abuse, which is good thing to do to fight spam. Unfortunately for us, Spamcop believe we are

[mailop] Spamcop blocking Amason SES

An acquaintance claims that Spamcop is blocking all of SES. Anyone else seen it? It seems kind of unlikely. R's, John ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop

Re: [mailop] Spamcop

On 2021-02-02 12:12, John Levine wrote: Me neither. Wanna issue an addenda? ;-) ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop

Re: [mailop] Spamcop

In article <757de6b6-611f-ab64-eed4-541591aac...@mustelids.ca> you write: >If you got caught by spamcop returning random A records outside of 127/8 >treated as positive (or indeed, any of the published return values), you >need a better DNSBL client/configure it properly. Yeah, in retrospect it

Re: [mailop] Spamcop

Ooh, battle of the RFCs, both of whom's authors are on this list ;-) RFC 6471 1.2. Guidance for DNSBL Users This section is more generally about understanding the DNSBLs you use and using them properly, including this (where the subject at hand can be considered part of the "practise".

Re: [mailop] Spamcop

I also take issue with the statement "it would've only impacted misconfigured sites" since we also had a check from within Postfix and had all of our mail blocked until we figured out what was going on simply by the amount of time no mail was showing up in our inboxes. Marco Belmonte On

Re: [mailop] Spamcop

Dnia 1.02.2021 o godz. 23:54:47 Chris via mailop pisze: > As per the RFCs, DNSBLs should only be returning 127/8 values, > anything else must be considered an error by the filter and ignored > instead of being a listing. Not quite so: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5782 (DNS Blacklists and

Re: [mailop] Spamcop

Moin, on 02.02.21 03:34, Noel Butler via mailop wrote: > > postfix reported nothing, so must check for appropriate response codes, and I > certainly hope it checks 127.* not just .2, as we are not to know every > DNSBL's response codes. > The point was to check the _actual_ _response_ instead

Re: [mailop] Spamcop

As per the RFCs, DNSBLs should only be returning 127/8 values, anything else must be considered an error by the filter and ignored instead of being a listing. This is how you avoid DNSBLs blowing up on you when their domains accidentally expire and are wild-carding with fixed advertising IPs.

Re: [mailop] Spamcop

postfix reported nothing, so must check for appropriate response codes, and I certainly hope it checks 127.* not just .2, as we are not to know every DNSBL's response codes. Our only alert was an internal monitor on our own IP's - just basic check script in perl, that's what alerted us to the

Re: [mailop] Spamcop

According to reports, any query for *.spamcop.net resulted in an A reponse to a landing page (there were no NXDOMAINs), so when not specifically checking for 127.0.0.2 but just for a positive reply, any query would be seen as a hit. As such, the incident would have only impacted misconfigured

Re: [mailop] Spamcop

Greetings, Yes, we also saw that all lookups against the blocklist resulted in blocks. As I recall, the issue was that everything was returning the same IP for the 'domain parked due to being expired' website. We check all of our hosts (even ones that don't send email) and they all reported

Re: [mailop] Spamcop

I've received a report from someone that said that all IP lookups against the SpamCop blocklist resulted in blocks during this time. Did anyone else have the same observation? I'm trying to figure out if this person has a bad blocklist lookup implementation (saying an IP is in the list, as

Re: [mailop] Spamcop

Yes, SpamCop is Cisco. I’m on it. ./don > On Jan 31, 2021, at 03:46, Graeme Fowler via mailop wrote: > > On 31 Jan 2021, at 10:24, Marc Bradshaw via mailop wrote: >> Is there anyone from Spamcop on the list? >> >> We are seeing some strange results right how, which suggest a domain

Re: [mailop] Spamcop

Don Owens via mailop wrote: > We have the domain back now, but we have to wait for propagation > delays. If you query the name servers they Arne mentioned, that > should give you the right IPs. > > Sorry for the trouble, folks. Now I have to go see who needs flogging. Some humor to lighten your

Re: [mailop] Spamcop

On Sun, 31 Jan 2021 09:01:39 -0800, Don Owens via mailop wrote:- >We have the domain back now, but we have to wait for propagation delays. If >you query the name servers they Arne mentioned, that should give you the right >IPs. > >Sorry for the trouble, folks. Now I have to go see who needs

Re: [mailop] Spamcop

It looks to me as though the domain has been renewed. I believe the problem should now be resolved (or should be shortly if you're caching bad DNS). Cheers, Al Iverson On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 10:36 AM Arne Jensen via mailop wrote: > > > Den 31-01-2021 kl. 16:56 skrev Andreas Schamanek via

Re: [mailop] Spamcop

We have the domain back now, but we have to wait for propagation delays. If you query the name servers they Arne mentioned, that should give you the right IPs. Sorry for the trouble, folks. Now I have to go see who needs flogging. ./don > On Jan 31, 2021, at 08:36, Arne Jensen via mailop

Re: [mailop] Spamcop

Den 31-01-2021 kl. 17:52 skrev Al Iverson: > It looks to me as though the domain has been renewed. I believe the > problem should now be resolved (or should be shortly if you're caching > bad DNS). Exactly my point with the notification about the update, to signal that the domain had been

Re: [mailop] Spamcop

Den 31-01-2021 kl. 16:56 skrev Andreas Schamanek via mailop: > > Could someone provide the old but apparently still valid IP addresses > so that we can configure DNS forwarding locally instead of disabling > the DNSBL? > Domain was updated ~21 minutes ago on 2021-01-31T16:04:06Z, now saying:   

Re: [mailop] Spamcop

Could someone provide the old but apparently still valid IP addresses so that we can configure DNS forwarding locally instead of disabling the DNSBL? -- -- Andreas :-) ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org

Re: [mailop] Spamcop

I let someone there know. Udeme LinkedIn On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 6:47 AM Graeme Fowler via mailop wrote: > On 31 Jan 2021, at 10:24, Marc Bradshaw via mailop > wrote: > > Is there anyone from Spamcop on the list? > > > > We are seeing some strange results right how, which suggest a domain >

Re: [mailop] Spamcop

On 31 Jan 2021, at 10:24, Marc Bradshaw via mailop wrote: > Is there anyone from Spamcop on the list? > > We are seeing some strange results right how, which suggest a domain renewal > may have gone awry for the RBL domain. Confirmed, registration has gone into "Domain Status: autoRenewPeriod"

[mailop] Spamcop

Is there anyone from Spamcop on the list? We are seeing some strange results right how, which suggest a domain renewal may have gone awry for the RBL domain. -- Marc Bradshaw - Deliverability/Abuse at FastMail m...@fastmailteam.com | @marcbradshaw

Re: [mailop] SpamCop and listwashing

Hi Luis, On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 04:54:20PM -0700, Luis E. Muñoz via mailop wrote: > I guess I'm trying to say is that getting abuse complaints to the right > hands, at scale, is way harder than it seems. "Streamlining" the process is > hard, No argument from me: no easy-seeming here! It's plain

Re: [mailop] SpamCop and listwashing

nal Message- From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Luis E. Muñoz via mailop Sent: Wednesday, 28 August 2019 11:54 a.m. To: Andy Smith Cc: mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] SpamCop and listwashing On 27 Aug 2019, at 16:23, Andy Smith via mailop wrote: > So, where el

Re: [mailop] SpamCop and listwashing

On 27 Aug 2019, at 16:23, Andy Smith via mailop wrote: So, where else can one go to streamline the spam reporting process? This page lists only SpamCop and Abusix: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_reporting As far as I can see Abusix in this context is only an IP-to-abuse-contact lookup

Re: [mailop] SpamCop and listwashing

Hi Al, On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 09:29:32AM -0500, Al Iverson via mailop wrote: > You're new to a very old problem. Yes it seems I am, as I've had a misunderstanding about SpamCop for a really long time. > I could probably find blog posts I wrote in 2003 complaining about > how Spamcop chooses to

Re: [mailop] SpamCop and listwashing

Hello, On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 10:07:21AM -0700, Jay Hennigan via mailop wrote: > On 8/27/19 03:54, Andy Smith via mailop wrote: > >Last week or so I noticed that I can no longer send SpamCop reports > >to a large hosting provider. The option now shows up as: > > >

Re: [mailop] SpamCop and listwashing

On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 10:48 AM Michael Peddemors via mailop < mailop@mailop.org> wrote: > On 2019-08-27 10:07 a.m., Jay Hennigan via mailop wrote: > > Don't use Spamcop then. Send your complaints directly to the abuse desk. > > Let us know if it does any good. > > While overall great comments,

Re: [mailop] SpamCop and listwashing

On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 10:09 AM Jay Hennigan via mailop wrote: [snip] > > Or take the chance and hit the "Unsubscribe" link on something to which > you never subscribed. This risks the possibility that your address will > be sold to other spammers as "one who has responded to similar offers". >

Re: [mailop] SpamCop and listwashing

I did make contact with Andy through the deputies' queue. In this case is is one big provider that has been ignoring a well known spammer on their network that sends our hundreds of messages per day "I have removed the user" Richard On 2019-08-27 4:54 a.m., Andy Smith via mailop wrote:

Re: [mailop] SpamCop and listwashing

On 2019-08-27 10:07 a.m., Jay Hennigan via mailop wrote: Don't use Spamcop then. Send your complaints directly to the abuse desk. Let us know if it does any good. While overall great comments, we all have to realize the frustration of those involved in sending reports 'directly' as well..

Re: [mailop] SpamCop and listwashing

On 8/27/19 03:54, Andy Smith via mailop wrote: Last week or so I noticed that I can no longer send SpamCop reports to a large hosting provider. The option now shows up as: abuse#example@devnull.spamcop.net with no explanatory text. Spamcop doesn't send reports to well known spammers

Re: [mailop] SpamCop and listwashing

You're new to a very old problem. I could probably find blog posts I wrote in 2003 complaining about how Spamcop chooses to block reports to some platforms or networks and how it's confusing to the end user because it looks like the provider is rejecting them, which is not true. You'll never get

[mailop] SpamCop and listwashing

Hello, Are there any representatives of SpamCop here? Last week or so I noticed that I can no longer send SpamCop reports to a large hosting provider. The option now shows up as: abuse#example@devnull.spamcop.net with no explanatory text. In the past when I have seen this, I have assumed

Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted

ted (Laura Atkins) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 14:16:48 + From: Mathieu Bourdin To: Benjamin BILLON , Laura Atkins , Michael Wise Cc: mailop Subject: Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted

Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted

> On 19 Nov 2018, at 14:16, Mathieu Bourdin wrote: > > >My problem is more when it doesn't work, while it should. > > That’s not a problem, that’s our job description. > > More seriously, as has been said before, the problem starts when the minimum > set of rules to abide to isn’t enough

Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted

sue with rules getting more strict, we just need to know if it’s “new rules” or if it’s “old rules gone haywire” Mathieu Bourdin De : mailop De la part de Benjamin BILLON Envoyé : lundi 19 novembre 2018 12:13 À : Laura Atkins ; Michael Wise Cc : mailop Objet : Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted >

Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted

ion. Behave, and it'll work. My problem is more when it doesn't work, while it should. -- Benjamin From: mailop On Behalf Of Laura Atkins Sent: lundi 19 novembre 2018 11:25 To: Michael Wise Cc: mailop Subject: Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted On 16 Nov 2018, at 22:23, Michael Wise via mai

Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted

> On 16 Nov 2018, at 22:23, Michael Wise via mailop wrote: > > Per email, no, bad test. > But if they keep not opening it, and others are reporting it as spam (or > other things), and especially if there’s no clear unsubscribe link … > Bad Things will happen to the reputation. > Automatically

Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted

tails.aspx?id=18275> ? From: Benjamin BILLON Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 12:25 PM To: Michael Wise ; Michael Rathbun ; mailop Subject: RE: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted > if the email isn't opened, or there is no show of interest over the course of > the past 3 - 6 months ... It's m

Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted

Michael Wise ; m...@honet.com; mailop Subject: Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 12:33 PM Benjamin BILLON mailto:bbil...@splio.com>> wrote: > if the email isn't opened, or there is no show of interest over the course of > the past 3 - 6 months

Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted

On 11/16/2018 12:26 PM, Michael Wise via mailop wrote: And if the email isn't opened, or there is no show of interest over the course of the past 3 - 6 months ... Are you advocating for some sort of per recipient tracking to be used as a signal to indicate if the email was opened (disposed)?

Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted

On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 12:33 PM Benjamin BILLON wrote: > > if the email isn't opened, or there is no show of interest over the > course of the past 3 - 6 months ... It's mailing malpractice > > . . . > > But there are also those emails that we receive and never read, but that > we want to keep

Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted

On 11/16/18 12:25 PM, Benjamin BILLON wrote: But there are also those emails that we receive and never read, but that we want to keep anyway. Bank statements. Order confirmation. That newsletter about woodworking tips. Or that one about dreamy holidays that I'd check for the next vacation, or

Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted

November 16, 2018 6:52 AM To: mailop@mailop.org<mailto:mailop@mailop.org> Subject: Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 11:04:03 +, Laura Atkins mailto:la...@wordtothewise.com>> wrote: >Last time I talked to a SC employee, which admittedly was more than a few

Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted

essed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool<http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=18275> ? -Original Message- From: mailop On Behalf Of Michael Rathbun Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 6:52 AM To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted

Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted

On 11/16/18 2:33 AM, Marco Franceschetti via mailop wrote: Our hypothesis is that Spamcop has activated a few obsolete domains (typos, repurposed domains) as traps from one day to the other, or radically and suddenly changed the threshold - therefore, a few brand/senders with not brilliant

Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted

On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 11:04:03 +, Laura Atkins wrote: >Last time I talked to a SC employee, which admittedly was more than a few >years ago, about their trap conditioning they were using a 2+ year cycle of >actively rejecting mail to trap domains. If your users can’t figure out how to >stop

Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted

in the last days. Regards From: Laura Atkins Sent: venerdì 16 novembre 2018 12:04 To: Marco Franceschetti Cc: feder...@aruba.it; mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted On 16 Nov 2018, at 10:33, Marco Franceschetti via mailop mailto:mailop@mailop.org>> wrote: Hi

Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted

> On 16 Nov 2018, at 10:33, Marco Franceschetti via mailop > wrote: > > Hi > > Same situation here at Contactlab (Italy). > Our hypothesis is that Spamcop has activated a few obsolete domains (typos, > repurposed domains) as traps from one day to the other, or radically and > suddenly

Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted

<mailto:marco.francesche...@contactlab.com> Via Natale Battaglia, 12 | Milano contactlab.com/it<http://www.contactlab.com/it> From: mailop On Behalf Of Federico Bartolucci Sent: venerdì 16 novembre 2018 11:08 To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted Hi, I'm not

Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted

Hi, I'm not from Spamcop but I manage a large email system in Italy, recently we often find out ips going into Spamcop for uncertain reasons, can I ask if you checked for compromised accounts used to send out emails? Regards federico bartolucci mail systems administrator Aruba.it Il 16

Re: [mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted

Send mail to deput...@spamcop.net . They’re generally pretty helpful. You can also sign up for their report cards, which can sometimes be useful in identifying problems. https://wordtothewise.com/2013/11/getting-spamcop-summary-reports/

[mailop] Spamcop IP blacklisted

Hi guys, Can someone from SpamCop reach out to me offlist ? Or if anyone has a contact for SpamCop or how it's the best way to dispute or at least to find out more details about a certain IP block ? Thank you Andrei Onofrei Dynamics 365 Email Deliverability Engineer

[mailop] Spamcop test email breaks on greylisting

Trying to add a new mailhost to SpamCop for my domain name whois contact address. If there’s anyone around from SpamCop, you might want to fix this. Also grouched about having to send to an A record. Sorry, all tests failed. We cannot deliver mail to the address you provided:

Re: [mailop] Spamcop: 'this is not spam' feedback form broken?

On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 5:36 AM, Benoit Panizzon wrote: > 1: Mark those submissions to spamcop to be not spam, to prevent spamcop >blocking the ip used to submit those reports. > 2: Send a note to the reporter to get in contact with us to clear the >issue, maybe

Re: [mailop] Spamcop: 'this is not spam' feedback form broken?

Actually that is a sample template, not a feedback/submission form. Above the box is a mailto link to respond to. Under that: "If you cannot use the above link, the template text is provided here for use in your preferred email application:" Under the box is a link to a form to send a note.

Re: [mailop] Spamcop Contact

On Thu, Sep 1, 2016, at 02:16, Benoit Panizzon wrote: > I used to discuss issues on their NNTP Server: > > news://news.spamcop.net/ > > But it is down at the moment (or has it been put out of service? I > haven't connected for a long time)

Re: [mailop] Spamcop blows a fuse.

: "Michael Rathbun" <m...@honet.com> Aan: mailop@mailop.org Verzonden: Woensdag 3 augustus 2016 01:22:55 Onderwerp: [mailop] Spamcop blows a fuse. This server sends a spam feed to Spamcop (it's Nadine, in fact). So, of course, the IP is now listed on Spamcop. Every day, it's som

Re: [mailop] Spamcop blows a fuse.

On Tue, 02 Aug 2016 18:22:55 -0500, Michael Rathbun wrote: >Every day, it's something new. Thanks for the prompt and effective off-line assistance. There were a couple of messages I could not answer because the server currently has a "generic static reverse DNS", and "choose

Re: [mailop] Spamcop blows a fuse.

On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 7:22 PM, Michael Rathbun wrote: > This server sends a spam feed to Spamcop (it's Nadine, in fact). > > So, of course, the IP is now listed on Spamcop. No good deed... ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org

[mailop] Spamcop blows a fuse.

This server sends a spam feed to Spamcop (it's Nadine, in fact). So, of course, the IP is now listed on Spamcop. Every day, it's something new. mdr -- Human beings are perhaps never more frightening than when they are convinced beyond doubt that they are right. -- Laurens Van Der

[mailop] SpamCop contact.. Please contact me off list.. trying to help out one of our ISP customers

They apparently have had trouble with de-listing for a couple of weeks.. Could you contact me off list please? -- Catch the Magic of Linux... Michael Peddemors, President/CEO LinuxMagic Inc. Visit us at