Re: VIRGIL: Virgil's Aeneid and his shield

1998-11-08 Thread David Wilson-Okamura
At 09:09 PM 11/8/98 EST, Dick Miller wrote: >A very solid observation. Thank you. Another rewarding bit of study is to look >at the prototype of the Shield of Aeneas, the Shield of Achilles at Iliad >18.478-607. I don't think the two shields will bear too much comparison, >though, since Homer's is

Re: VIRGIL: Virgil's Aeneid and his shield

1998-11-08 Thread Stephanie Spaulding
Compare also the temple carvings in Book I, about line 450 and following, for a retrospective visual representation in which A. sees the images of where he came from (fall of Troy), rather than where he is going. For Virgil's 'pictoral verse'(that is, vivid description of a visual artistic

Re: VIRGIL: Virgil's Aeneid and his shield

1998-11-08 Thread RMiller945
In a message dated 11/8/98 7:57:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I consider the famous passages in book six when Anchises shows Aeneas the future Romans to be a parrallel [sic] to the shield scene. Here, as with the shield, A. sees what will be the future of his line,

Re: VIRGIL: Virgil's Aenied and his shield

1998-11-08 Thread Stephanie Spaulding
I consider the famous passages in book six when Anchises shows Aeneas the future Romans to be a parrallel to the shield scene. Here, as with the shield, A. sees what will be the future of his line, but has no real understanding of it. His greatest reactions are wonder and amazement, but in b

VIRGIL: Re: Eclogues & vita triplex

1998-11-08 Thread Gregory Hays
I can't claim to be a Virgil specialist either, but since I'm currently preparing a new translation of Fulgentius with commentary, I'll take a stab at this. Fulgentius explains (p. 83, 9ff. Helm) that his discussion will concentrate solely on the Aeneid: bucolicam georgicamque omisimus, in quibus

Re: VIRGIL: Eclogues & vita triplex

1998-11-08 Thread outis
Not being a specialist of Virgil myself, I would be grateful to you if you could help me with the following: I am preparing an article on Fulgentius, the Mythographer (North Africa, begin. VIth century) and I read in a study by Leslie George Whitbread ("Fulgentius the Mythographer", Ohio State U.,

VIRGIL: Virgil's Aenied and his shield

1998-11-08 Thread GzAnGeL125
At the end of Book 8 in the Aeneid, Venus asks Vulcan to make a suit of armor for Aeneas. One of the items of the armor is a shield depicting certain future glories of Roman history. These include Romulus and Remus, the banishment of Tarquin the Proud, the punishment of Cataline and the Battle of

VIRGIL: Re: VIRGIL Digest V1 #19

1998-11-08 Thread Beth Hall
I would like to point out that if one was to take the view that Aeneas was/is a complete failure with women he is so with due reason. He has been given a destiny or a mission by the gods and although at times he does loose sight of his mission and his human instinct takes over he can not spend

Re: VIRGIL: sand without bottom

1998-11-08 Thread Simon Cauchi
Let me add a footnote to Leofranc Holford-Strevens's interesting post about Vitruvius. The English phrase we started with ('the famous quote "Firmness, Commodity, Delight"') sounded like early modern English, and I thought I'd try to track down its English source. This is what I found at