You might be interested in the opening chapters of Murray Krieger's
book Ekphrasis. This discusses not only a few attempts at
representing Aeneas' and Achilles' shields visually, but also why it is
important that (in Krieger's view at least) these attempts all fail.
Tim
On Wed, 08 Dec 1999
Mr. Guerra,
There is an extraordinary fold-out rendition of the shield in the
18th-century bilingual text edited by Joseph Warton, The Works of Virgil in
Latin and EnglishÂ…(London: R. Dodsley, 1753). The University of Illinois
has it on the shelves, according to the English Short Title
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From: Michael-janck Snydert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 17:58:38 UZT
Everything mirrors opposites, not to sound rambling or discouraging, but
infinity does exist - to quote the saying: we must repeat. Perhaps not
enough focus
David Wilson-Okamura schrieb:
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From: Paul O. Wendland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 17:53:27 -0600
A better place to start
from if you want to look for reflections of Aeneas' character in dying
Turnus is the nice parallel
At 12:27 PM 12/9/99 -0500, matthewspencer wrote:
but to me, although the poem might end abruptly, compared to its
predecessors, i am not sure how else the aeneid *could* have ended. i do
not think that anybody disagrees that aeneas is greatly changed by the
end, specifically in terms of how his
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From: Timothy Mallon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 10:22:36 PST
It is interesting that the _Iliad_ ends with a reflection: the last element
of the last word -damos is an adjective related to _damazein_ a word
frequently used in
3. What does it mean to call something in a poem artificial? Isn't it all
artificial?
yes, i phrased that poorly perhaps. not surprising, i have never been
able to say what i mean. yes, we could call all poetry artiface, but
should we be interested in a poem that makes no sense? to one who is
Re shield discussion. Does the shield serve as a reminder of the sequence
in Book VI where Aeneas is told of his and his successors future? Yet
another reminder of the destiny of the Roman race that he will see
established - he has always seemed in the previous books to need a lot of
reminders
It seems that Aeneas tends to be rebellious against the heroic code that is
generally held sacred by ancient warriors. Why do you think he rebels against
this code? Does it have to do with the Roman morality of the future?
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