[libreoffice-marketing] Stable? Seriously?? Fw: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6.2

2012-10-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Again.  The only advantage listed for the new release in the newest branch of LO is that it's more stable.  What is it more stable than?  Is it more stable than the 3.5.6?   Putting anything mentioning bug-fixes and possible regressions just makes people wonder what new bugs and new

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Stable? Seriously?? Fw: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6.2

2012-10-04 Thread Florian Monfort
Hi Tom, You certainly have a point here ;) +1 On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) Again. The only advantage listed for the new release in the newest branch of LO is that it's more stable. What is it more stable than? Is it more stable than the

[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Stable? Seriously?? Fw: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6.2

2012-10-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) What is the point of having 2 branches?  It's like we have 2 product-lines.  One is green and the other is red.  When we try to sell a new release of the red product-line we say it's greener.  Why can't we just say it's red?  Take pride in it's redness.  Can't we point out the

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Stable? Seriously?? Fw: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6.2

2012-10-04 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Tom, The points you are making are repeated at each release. I cannot really help if you refuse to understand how we work or how software development works. But as we are on the marketing list we need to work on marketing and not lose our time with recurring rants that are not related to

[libreoffice-marketing] Ubuntu Community Team on Air Collecting Donations -- TDF should do the same

2012-10-04 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, the Ubuntu Community team is on air for 24h non-stop right now at: http://marathon.ubuntuonair.com/ collecting donations for charities. We should try the same some day collecting for TDF, with people from different teams (marketing, l10n, docs, QA, development) collecting donations for

[libreoffice-marketing] Meeting during LibreOffice Conference in Berlin

2012-10-04 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hello, in order to finally kick-off our marketing efforts on a larger scale, i.e. with involving the whole community, I'd like to ask who will attend the LibreOffice Conference in Berlin in two weeks. Meeting in person would be wonderful! :-) I'll be there all week long, from Sunday to

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Ubuntu Community Team on Air Collecting Donations -- TDF should do the same

2012-10-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) +1 Sounds like it might fit in well with the other positive ideas here Regards from Tom :)  From: Bjoern Michaelsen bjoern.michael...@canonical.com To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thursday, 4 October 2012, 13:30 Subject:

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Stable? Seriously?? Fw: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6.2

2012-10-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Ahh, sorry.  I didn't realise that public announcements and press releases have nothing to do with marketing.  Apols and regards from Tom :)  From: Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Stable? Seriously?? Fw: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6.2

2012-10-04 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Public announcements are obviously marketing. Someone repeatedly complaining that software comes with bugs on the marketing list is not related to marketing. Charles. Le 4 oct. 2012 14:48, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk a écrit : Hi :) Ahh, sorry. I didn't realise that public

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Stable? Seriously?? Fw: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6.2

2012-10-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Hmm, try reading my post rather than ignoring it and pretending it says soemthing other than what it really says. Regards from Tom :)  From: Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Cc:

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Meeting during LibreOffice Conference in Berlin

2012-10-04 Thread Jean Weber
I'll be there, Tuesday through Sunday. Looking forward to meeting many people at last. --Jean On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Hello, in order to finally kick-off our marketing efforts on a larger scale, i.e. with involving the whole

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Stable? Seriously?? Fw: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6.2

2012-10-04 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
I read your message three times actually. And I do maintain what I wrote. Thanks, Charles. Le jeudi 04 octobre 2012 à 14:20 +0100, Tom Davies a écrit : Hi :) Hmm, try reading my post rather than ignoring it and pretending it says soemthing other than what it really says. Regards from Tom

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Stable? Seriously?? Fw: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6.2

2012-10-04 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P
The key would be to ask yourself which version would you give your local government office, or largest business in your community, to use. Would you give them 3.5.6 or the brand new 3.6.2 version? Even our own Release Plan page tells us that .2 or .3 Early adopters on the graph. Sure,

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Stable? Seriously?? Fw: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6.2

2012-10-04 Thread Carlo Strata
But how you layout the download page with: - one or two (!) downloadable versions; - red and/or green logos/semaphore or similar indicator to customer; is marketing of course!!! And if the this choice make people to refuse LibreOffice because they download the wrong-for-them version, this not

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Stable? Seriously?? Fw: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6.2

2012-10-04 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi all, Carlo Strata wrote (04-10-12 16:10) But how you layout the download page with: [...] It's not new that we find ourselves in an interesting, challenging situation with the character of the work, product and the release schedule etc. Now and then people come up with suggestions to

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice in MacWorld Australia

2012-10-04 Thread Cor Nouws
Jean Weber wrote (29-09-12 11:58) MacWorld Australia lists LibreOffice as one of its must have Mac Apps. http://www.macworld.com.au/features/must-have-mac-apps-73924/ Smart people down under ;-) thanks for sharing! see you in Berlin, Cor -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Stable? Seriously?? Fw: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6.2

2012-10-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) How about we extoll the real virtues of what we really offer on the page rather than trying to pretend that the 3.6.x is more stable than the 3.5.6 and that stability is the only reason for choosing the 3.6.x?  Oh sorry, that was just the press-release/announcement.  The downloads page

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice in MacWorld Australia

2012-10-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) +1 Brilliant work, whoever was involved with that deserves a big thanks from all of us and a lot more. Congrats and regards from Tom :) From: Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl To: Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com Cc: marketing@global.libreoffice.org

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Stable? Seriously?? Fw: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6.2

2012-10-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) When the new 3.5.7 is released is that going to be sold as contains tons more newer features and greater compatibility with other formats?  Regards from Tom :)  From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com To:

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Stable? Seriously?? Fw: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6.2

2012-10-04 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
plonk Charles. Le 4 oct. 2012 19:16, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk a écrit : Hi :) When the new 3.5.7 is released is that going to be sold as contains tons more newer features and greater compatibility with other formats? Regards from Tom :)

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Stable? Seriously?? Fw: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6.2

2012-10-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Ok, so what is the reason for having 2 branches being developed at the same time.  Try to explain it again and i will try to listen.  Regards from Tom :)  From: Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org To:

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Stable? Seriously?? Fw: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6.2

2012-10-04 Thread Cor Nouws
Let's look at this from the bright side: it's good to have a joker in a project. Cheers, Cor Tom Davies wrote (04-10-12 20:12) Hi :) Ok, so what is the reason for having 2 branches being developed at the same time. Try to explain it again and i will try to listen. Regards from Tom :) --

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Stable? Seriously?? Fw: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6.2

2012-10-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Personal attacks are sooo clever.  Now we all understand so much more.  Regards from Tom :)  From: Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org marketing@global.libreoffice.org Cc: charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Stable? Seriously?? Fw: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6.2

2012-10-04 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi, Tom Davies wrote (04-10-12 20:28) Hi :) Seriously. What is the reason for having 2 branches? [...] Ah well, who am I to say that you can't understand it. Though the way this thread was started, does not show much (will for) understanding, IMHO. But OK, brief... - In each LibreOffice