Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Ad on Facebook?

2012-12-02 Thread Robert Ryley
A bit late to this thread, but I have a question: What would be accomplished by a Facebook ad campaign? How would that help the financing or development goals of the project? The empirical analysis of Facebook advertising is not good. When large entities with large budgets and quants to crunch

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Interesting Article

2012-11-17 Thread Robert Ryley
You can have similar problems when using very old along with very new versions of Office as well. Doesn't the German govt. have IT people who look into these things? On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 11:51 PM, wrote: > http://www.cio.com/article/721826/German_City_Says_Openoffice_Shortcomings_Are_Forcing

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] stable? Re: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.5.3

2012-05-02 Thread Robert Ryley
The features mentioned in the press release are very interesting. I know some professional groups that would be interested in some of these. Great work! > - Calc performance improvements; > - Lightproof improvements; > - collaborative spreadsheet editing using Telepathy; > - a Microsoft Publishe

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Article on Datamation website: "How Microsoft Office Tops LibreOffice: 11 Features"

2012-04-27 Thread Robert Ryley
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Ian Lynch wrote: > On 27 April 2012 18:34, Robert Ryley wrote: > >> >> Just because people do irrational things, does not mean they *should.* >> > > Depends on the purpose. What is irrational to A is perfectly sensible to B. > O

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Article on Datamation website: "How Microsoft Office Tops LibreOffice: 11 Features"

2012-04-27 Thread Robert Ryley
Some final responses, and then I'm going to drop the matter. > Again, it begs the question; if a client does not trust a vendor, why > should it trust some anonymous "certifying" body? >>They might if the certification body has a reputation for independence and >>objectivity. The evidence is in t

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Article on Datamation website: "How Microsoft Office Tops LibreOffice: 11 Features"

2012-04-27 Thread Robert Ryley
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 4:20 AM, Charles-H.Schulz wrote: > Hello Robert, > > The "group" aka the foundation, decided after much discussions with > service providers and experts on LibreOffice and OpenOffice.org > deployments and migrations to start this certification programme. It > goes way back

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Article on Datamation website: "How Microsoft Office Tops LibreOffice: 11 Features"

2012-04-26 Thread Robert Ryley
, are incompetent. So whose interest does the project serve - developers or buyers? On Apr 26, 2012 9:33 PM, "Italo Vignoli" wrote: > Robert Ryley wrote: > > > So, you have no answers to any of my observations, but feel > > "competent" to declare that "certifi

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Article on Datamation website: "How Microsoft Office Tops LibreOffice: 11 Features"

2012-04-26 Thread Robert Ryley
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Italo Vignoli wrote: > Robert Ryley wrote: > >> Can you explain to me how "competence" can be assessed in the absence >> of a clearly defined specification?  Can you also clarify why to you >> think that the TDF is competent

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Article on Datamation website: "How Microsoft Office Tops LibreOffice: 11 Features"

2012-04-26 Thread Robert Ryley
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Italo Vignoli wrote: > Robert Ryley wrote: > >> 1. It continues to encourage the commodification of techincal >> personnel.  People just become "certs" as opposed to intelligent, >> independent individuals with value to bring

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Article on Datamation website: "How Microsoft Office Tops LibreOffice: 11 Features"

2012-04-26 Thread Robert Ryley
hen they should create a standards organization, hire experts (from the TDF membership), and then develop it. The TDF and LO should not accept that as its mission. > On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 1:33 PM, drew jensen > wrote: > On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 12:56 -0400, Robert Ryley wrote: >> Tom,

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Article on Datamation website: "How Microsoft Office Tops LibreOffice: 11 Features"

2012-04-26 Thread Robert Ryley
Tom, I'm quite familiar with all of these claims. But they don't address the fundamental *business* question of how to support an open source *project* more effectively, which is more than just development. Some comments to follow: On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) >

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Article on Datamation website: "How Microsoft Office Tops LibreOffice: 11 Features"

2012-04-26 Thread Robert Ryley
Interesting article. With regard to the bibliography tool -- what is he talking about? The professional writers I deal with all use something like Endnotes. The bibliography issue isn't all that hard to fix. All of those things mentioned are arguably outside the scope of office productivity sof

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice coverage in American Medical Writers Association Journal

2012-04-09 Thread Robert Ryley
/09/2012 09:33 AM, Simon Phipps wrote: >> >> On 9 Apr 2012, at 14:31, Robert Ryley wrote: >> >>> I figured list members might be pleased to know about this. >>> >>> I am a member of the AMWA (American Medical Writers Association) and >>> contribu

[libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice coverage in American Medical Writers Association Journal

2012-04-09 Thread Robert Ryley
pharmaceutical, medical, and health sector. I may have the opportunity to write a longer, feature article and plan on covering LibreOffice sometime later this year. Robert Ryley -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] MS plans to force OEMs to add boot feature that blocks use of Linux and free software.

2011-10-19 Thread Robert Ryley
Quote: "If they can make a hardware "security system" that stops Linux to work on those machine, will they be able to do the same for non-MS software, like LO and other open source software? What is stopping them? Not the law and our courts. Their fines are pocket money. Put MS leadership in ja

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] MS plans to force OEMs to add boot feature that blocks use of Linux and free software.

2011-10-19 Thread Robert Ryley
I suspect the workarounds will include capturing all the needed keys, reflashing the bios/uefi chip, and installing what you want. It is a PITA, but not insurmountable. It will probably spur more open hardware, to the detriment of those determined to lock down the system. MS aside, uefi is a goo

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Recruitment for Base (Was Re: [steering-discuss] Base - a new mailing list?)

2011-09-15 Thread Robert Ryley
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Alexander Thurgood wrote: > I am not a developer, but I have been using the database stuff of > OOo/LibO since before it even became open source, i.e. back in the day > when it was still a proprietary StarDivision product - there has to my > knowledge never been a

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Recruitment for Base (Was Re: [steering-discuss] Base - a new mailing list?)

2011-09-15 Thread Robert Ryley
Hello Alexander, On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Alexander Thurgood wrote: > Le 14/09/11 22:40, Robert Ryley a écrit : > > Hi Robert, > >> If there is a move away from java, that is going to make a significant >> portion of that documentation obsolete.  Is there anything

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Recruitment for Base (Was Re: [steering-discuss] Base - a new mailing list?)

2011-09-14 Thread Robert Ryley
Tom, JVM is the Java virtual machine. It executes compiled java bytecode. Rob On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) > What is JVM? > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > --- On Wed, 14/9/11, Robert Ryley wrote: > > From: Robert Ryley > Subjec

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Recruitment for Base (Was Re: [steering-discuss] Base - a new mailing list?)

2011-09-14 Thread Robert Ryley
David, Thanks for the info. I'll do that. I'm already downloading the api's so I can access them when not online. Robert -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guideli

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Recruitment for Base (Was Re: [steering-discuss] Base - a new mailing list?)

2011-09-14 Thread Robert Ryley
> This is precisely information that is not documented at the moment, > and - indeed - some aspects are still probably in evolution. Only the > project's leading devs could really give you a satisfactory answer. > > But, certainly, the lack of developer documentation is something that > is a real b

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Recruitment for Base (Was Re: [steering-discuss] Base - a new mailing list?)

2011-09-14 Thread Robert Ryley
ed, Sep 14, 2011 at 4:34 PM, David Nelson wrote: > Hi Robert, > > On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:19 PM, Robert Ryley >> Where can I find more info about this? > > Actually, Tom's been doing some very nice organizational work on the > docs team's wiki: > > O

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Recruitment for Base (Was Re: [steering-discuss] Base - a new mailing list?)

2011-09-14 Thread Robert Ryley
David, You wrote: > The reason for this is that a) the LibreOffice docs team has not had > time and resources to develop such documentation, and that - in any > case - the suite's software design has been evolving (move away from > Java), so it was not really the time to get into such an initiativ

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Recruitment for Base (Was Re: [steering-discuss] Base - a new mailing list?)

2011-09-14 Thread Robert Ryley
Hello all, I have a few thoughts on some of the problems mentioned: 1. Lack of compatibility re: MS Access 2. Bugs, lack of docs and developer resources for base 3. Desire to recruit developers In order to market the package productively, some input from the base developers would be helpful. I