) for some kind of survey?
problem is that these kinds of surveys would be biased towards people
who care about answering them = people who care too much about their
computers = above-average technically skilled/interested people =
people who are more likely to run gnu/linux.
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utilities, and how?
(if i'm supposed to compile gnome from source, don't count on me)
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these are the sources i found so far:
http://slashdot.org/articles/06/09/07/0240207.shtml
http://arstechnica.com/articles/columns/linux/linux-20060905.ars
http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS6261033378.html
feel free to add more...
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of us don't
understand) are dead, they're still alive and kicking (and healthy!).
last time i checked, uncool non-bloggy microsoft was selling much more
than your cool distro of choice.
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give it to them, and then communicate it properly.
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problem with the ones you suggested is not that you didn't
use mines (who cares?), but the fact that imho they're 70% similar and
not very solid from a marketing point of view.
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On 7/16/06, Glynn Foster
with no market representation at all... that's an anecdote
more than a profile, and i can't imagine why we would need those.
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ends up going to the freezer more
often than to the veg. This is good.
and what would be the use of such a random non-representative profile,
from a marketing point of view?
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it will
be of any use: seems like the intended personas are nothing like
user profiles, but random short stories with no particular marketing
value :)
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website (at least indirectly) under the
control of the gnome foundation.
greetings,
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On 7/14/06, Eugenia Loli-Queru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
you're also using a trademark without proper authorization
name and a face (both
american btw), a similar job, a similar age, and very similar needs?
:)
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and the ones we had
before, other than having a random human name and a face (both
american btw), a similar job, a similar age, and very similar needs? :)
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On 7/14/06, Glynn Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
. if we want gnome
to be listed #1 in a desktop search, let's just work harder and
harder, until one day maybe people will *really* link to our website
when talking about that.
but until then let's try not to lie, ok?
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means he's using ubuntu (gnome) on his
laptop, at least. if it wasn't like that, he would have just said
using kubuntu.
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sounds great... btw, for quick reference the link is:
http://gnomejournal.org/
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searching/tagging) sound great. and if we can settle the multimedia
mess (via post-install wizard for example), it could be #3.
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- was the only viable option for free software
projects)?
have you REALLY seen them using emule/edonkey or kazaa/fasttrack or
bearshare/gnutella to distribute their binaries or any other kind of
material?
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what goes into emule
or gnutella, so anyone could upload naughty schoolgirls 4 and rename
it to gnome-something.
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even
though you CC to it?
i have no idea... maybe it doesn't accept cced messages?
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to be added there, if it's possible.
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You are welcome to disagree (and
reduce your motivation to help out), but then we're just playing semantics,
and not getting on with the job.
i wasn't trying to play semantics, just explaining why i had gotten you wrong.
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do it within this weekend i guess.
greetings!
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*** RESPONSE - START ***
As everyone must have read, recently Linus Torvalds posted a message
in a mailing list (GNOME Usability), saying that the GNOME desktop
environment had
on earth, because that's not relevant to us. what are we
after all? the gnome marketing team? :)
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are incapable of
doing anything more complex (marketing-wise) than plain meaningless
advertising.
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communication to you?
sorry, i should have said 1% focused in communicational issues, not 0% :)
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, but it seems like you no one cares
much anyway, so whatever.
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, simple, informative, and non-confrontational answer,
like the one i just wrote?
oh wait... that's the one we shouldn't be using, because something something.
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with this thread, a deadline is byting my butt.
no problem, none of us cared anyway, not to mention it's 3 am and i'm
falling apart (so please forgive the typos i must have made :P).
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an issue.
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sorry if i sounded like that, it must be the hour plus past
frustrations in this list. i better go to sleep, and sorry again.
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). it's just that i
had only gotten nos with no alternative proposal so far, but you have
a point and a plan, and i respect it.
hope it goes great, please keep the list informed, and thanks for the reply.
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the slashdot crowd.
Although thats arguable. :-)
i don't see why; my letter was not even 1% as trollish as linus' statements.
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I'm not sure if processing feedback will be sufficient.
no existing task is sufficient on its own, but there are many
productive steps we could take. and definitely, processing feedback
won't have any use unless developers do something about that feedback.
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be ignoring.
i just hope someone (especially developers) will read it this time! :)
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oh god...
http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/12/13/1340215
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As jdub would roughly put it Don't Panic.
well i never said we should panic, but it's something we should be
keeping an eye on.
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Oh! Then why do we capitalise it? Is it still an acronym? If so, what
do the letters stand for?
who cares about that? several brands are usually spelled in
uppercase, and that doesn't seem to undermine their popularity or
acceptance...
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perceptions. (and maybe which of our target
markets/personas those affect most)
i've included a top 5; is that too much? about the markets/personas,
well... most of these comments come from pretty much the same
persona (young techie who reads sites like slashdot).
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software projects with weird names, like wine or
the lame encoder.
By the way, Santiago, I think collecting negative reviews is incredibly
useful.
well, it doesn't look too useful when that collection doesn't get to
the people who should be reading it :)
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guess.
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themselves a bit more to gnome (brought to you by the gnome desktop,
a proud component of the gnome desktop, or something like that)...
the same way it would be good to have ubuntu or fedora relating to us
a bit more. but we can't build much based on that.
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some technical
skills =(
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with those other parties), or don't make end users a
promise we can't keep (i repeat: in marketing a false promise is a
brand killer).
marketing ourselves to other audiences is a whole new issue, so maybe
we don't want to discuss it here :)
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doesn't exist in real life, at least not
as an end user product. and we should be ok with that; believing
we're an end user product might trigger crazy ideas like creating and
supporting our very own distro :)
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it in the wiki to see what happens.
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is very alive and all, but 95% non-representative...
and i don't want that, because we're not writing a novel but
segmenting our markets.
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medium email (personal, some work)
medium im (personal)
basic web browsing (news, recommended sites)
medium office usage for work
does not use p2p
huge cd/dvd collection (artsy type, loves music)
basic (windows) computer skills (advanced for specific apps)
zero free software awareness
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things, i agree with that.
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If you think of a bell population, you have
80% within two standard deviations (I think?).
yeah 80% is good; what i don't want is personas who're so individual
and pretty and unique :) that they don't reflect the userbase at all.
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but can't do much about
it, at least within our current situation :(
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, and then i guess i could be
contributing with most of those tasks.
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of communication with the developers.
and i say waste not because i don't think the job is interesting,
but because i'm afraid it'll end up in the (gnome :P) trashcan just
like the 2.12 feedback list.
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Well, I hope our community isn't so bad as that one would expect
insults and ridicule when giving critical feedback! :P
no not at all, it was just a joke.
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cool... could you throw it in the wiki so we can build on it? i'd do
it myself, but i don't think i should appear as the original author
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[ short intro (aka who the heck is this guy?): my name is santiago
roza, i'm 25 and i live in argentina, i have a business-oriented
academic background (business administration) with a tech-oriented
professional background (i work as a tech consultant, and write a
column for a tech magazine here
if money isn't a problem, it's always a good idea to have every
related domain redirected to your main site... if we don't take it,
someone else will, and make it point to some pr0n site :)
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senses ... The earlier uses of festive,
colorful, bright can still be found but have fallen out of fashion
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/gay#Adjective
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towards GNOME.
- Andreas
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... what about jakarta
tomcat's tomcat?
http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/
expecting feedback...
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://www.oszine.de/modules.php?op=modloadname=Newsfile=articlesid=3941
http://www.linux-community.de/Neues/story?storyid=17628
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