Re: [Marxism] Documentary on Sexual Revolution on July 27th on History Channel

2009-07-29 Thread Mark Lause
I saw it and am sorry that I was correct. You see projects like this and doesn't it just want to make you scream that, with a little bit more, they could have done a very good piece. Not that long ago, I watched an hour documentary on "The Lost Battle of the Civil War." Strange title, since ther

Re: [Marxism] Mob beats Chinese steel factory executive to death

2009-07-29 Thread Bill O'Connor
"Fred Feldman" writes: > http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-china-mob27-2009jul27,0,3235364.story > > They dispersed later only after they were assured by authorities the sale > would not go through. Nice to see that there are still a few Communists left in China. -- In Solidarity, Billy O'

[Marxism] Happiness Consultants Won't Stop a Depression

2009-07-29 Thread Greg McDonald
Those of us who have worked in spas and other organizations in the "service economy" are well aware of the corporate ideology of the "power of positive thinking". Any critique of the corporation, no matter how correct, is categorized as a form of "negativity". Any movement to organize among the wor

[Marxism] Prisoner abuse in Iran

2009-07-29 Thread Louis Proyect
NY Times, July 30, 2009 Reports of Prison Abuse and Deaths Anger Iranians By ROBERT F. WORTH DUBAI, United Arab Emirates — Some prisoners say they watched fellow detainees being beaten to death by guards in overcrowded, stinking holding pens. Others say they had their fingernails ripped off or w

[Marxism] Iran: Whose Side are You On?

2009-07-29 Thread Ralph Johansen
Iran: Whose Side are You On? by William Bowles Creative-i July 27, 2009 I have been reading, with much despair and a deal of consternation, the torrent of 'analysis' coming out of 'left' field about which, if any, side to support in the ongoing struggles in Iran and, at the end of the day, a g

Re: [Marxism] Iran: Whose Side are You On?

2009-07-29 Thread Intense Red
> Typically, the 'left' has much 'advice' to offer Iran, yet the real > issue for us, here in the 'developed' world is what are we going to do > about our governments. This mindset is exactly what is needed. We can all micro-analyze other countries and find all sorts of faults -- as America

Re: [Marxism] Mob beats Chinese steel factory executive to death

2009-07-29 Thread Nestor Gorojovsky
Don´t judge the apple pie by a fraction of the crust Bill O'Connor escribió: > "Fred Feldman" writes: > >> http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-china-mob27-2009jul27,0,3235364.story >> >> They dispersed later only after they were assured by authorities the sale >> would not go through. > > Nic

[Marxism] On moralism as oligarchic weapon in Latin America

2009-07-29 Thread Nestor Gorojovsky
What follows is in Spanish. It was written after the coup of 1955 to fight against the "moralist" and "leftist" petty bourgeois anti-Peronist prejudices of the Arg middle classes. Some of the characters mentioned are known basically to Argentineans, such as the writer Roberto Arlt or the bourge

Re: [Marxism] Iran: Whose Side are You On?

2009-07-29 Thread jlevich
> The latest article rejects the editorial position of MRZine and >of course will help serve to buttress the online publication's rapidly >sinking credibility. The NY Times follows the same path when it includes >somebody like Barbara Ehrenreich on their op-ed page. Sure, MRZine couldn't possi

Re: [Marxism] Iran: Whose Side are You On?

2009-07-29 Thread Louis Proyect
jlev...@earthlink.net wrote: > Sure, MRZine couldn't possibly be trying in good faith to represent different > sides of an issue that is highly contentious and divisive. Do you actually read the comments on MRZine? Do you think that Iranians believe that it is airing both sides of a debate? O

Re: [Marxism] Iran: Whose Side are You On?

2009-07-29 Thread Mehmet Cagatay
A ridiculous statement appeared here yesterday which asserts supporting anti-imperialism is the ABC of Marxism. If it is so, at least considering the current conditions in Turkey, it means as Marxists we should side with every reactionary political position since the link that combines them agai

[Marxism] [R-P] 1954: Perón, el Che y Gu atemala

2009-07-29 Thread Nestor Gorojovsky
In Spanish, cannot translate. But these days, when the Hondurs case calls our attention to the relations between Argentina and Central America, perhaps what follows may be most interesting. At least to understand the complex way in which a group of political refugees is sent to jail by the same

Re: [Marxism] Iran: Whose Side are You On?

2009-07-29 Thread Tom Cod
not so ridiculous at all. Marx took a similar position in supporting the Mahdi, I think he called himself, of Algeria in resistance to French colonialism in the 1850s. so we do support and defend those who are resisting against imperialist aggression without necessarily taking political resp

Re: [Marxism] Iran: Whose Side are You On?

2009-07-29 Thread Louis Proyect
Tom Cod wrote: > not so ridiculous at all. Marx took a similar position in supporting the > Mahdi, I think he called himself, of Algeria in resistance to French > colonialism in the 1850s. You are confusing two things. Marxists back colonial resistance to imperialism, but he never would have

Re: [Marxism] Iran: Whose Side are You On?

2009-07-29 Thread Tom Cod
makes sense. > You are confusing two things. Marxists back colonial resistance to > imperialism, but he never would have backed such a government against > its own people. _ Bing™ brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in

[Marxism] Top-Down “National March for Equalit y” Won’t Wash

2009-07-29 Thread David Thorstad
The very notion of a national march for "equality" is an indication of the dumbing down of gay liberation, and the removal of any radical content in the interests of corralling people into the Democrat Party. All the bourgeois gay/lesbian "leaders" want today is to assimilate into the hetero-do

Re: [Marxism] Iran: Whose Side are You On?

2009-07-29 Thread Mehmet Cagatay
I was about to write a similar response, that I doubt Mr. Cod is confusing colonialist military occupation with a particular stage of capitalism which was defined by Lenin with "purely economic concepts". Since in the former, the principal contradiction is between occupying forces and those occu

Re: [Marxism] Iran: Whose Side are You On?

2009-07-29 Thread S. Artesian
Bottom line: IMO, we oppose the military, economic, financial ventures of the advanced capitalist countries in the "less capitalistically developed" countries. That doesn't mean we support the governments, the policies, or any particular group in those "less capitalistically developed" countri

Re: [Marxism] About that recovery.........

2009-07-29 Thread S. Artesian
neapolis said the District economy had contracted since the last report. http://www.federalreserve.gov/fomc/beigebook/2009/20090729/default.htm YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to: Marxism@l

Re: [Marxism] Iran: Whose Side are You On?

2009-07-29 Thread Tom Cod
that's all well and good as long as we keep in mind the economist and abstentionist use these ideas have been misused to promote, particularly by orthodox sectarians hostile to the radical movements of the 60s period. Thus Lenin's "tribune of the people" polemic against the economists should b

Re: [Marxism] Iran: Whose Side are You On?

2009-07-29 Thread Richard Fidler
No Louis, you are the one who is confused. When Selassie resisted Mussolini, he was fighting imperialism. When Selassie oppressed his own people, he was not fighting imperialism but undermining the struggle against imperialism, and quite possibly serving imperialist interests in the process. Anti-i

[Marxism] Anita O'Day documentary

2009-07-29 Thread Louis Proyect
Last summer I reviewed this very fine move about one of the greatest jazz singers and author of terrific autobiography titled "High Times, Hard Times". http://louisproyect.wordpress.com/2008/07/17/anita-oday-the-life-of-a-jazz-singer/ It is now available from Netflix. _

Re: [Marxism] Anita O'Day documentary

2009-07-29 Thread S. Artesian
It is a great movie, as she was a great artist. Remember her performance of "Sweet Georgia Brown" at Newport? Unbelievable. - Original Message - From: "Louis Proyect" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 2:58 PM Subject: [Marxism] Anita O'Day documentary _

Re: [Marxism] Iran: Whose Side are You On?

2009-07-29 Thread Louis Proyect
Richard Fidler wrote: > No Louis, you are the one who is confused. When Selassie resisted > Mussolini, he was fighting imperialism. When Selassie oppressed his > own people, he was not fighting imperialism but undermining the > struggle against imperialism, and quite possibly serving imperialist >

[Marxism] Doug Henwood radio shows

2009-07-29 Thread Louis Proyect
BEHIND THE NEWS with Doug Henwood "Best Music on an Economics & Politics Radio Show" Village Voice Best of NYC 2005 podcast: iTunes: or opening c

Re: [Marxism] Documentary on Sexual Revolution on July 27th on History Channel

2009-07-29 Thread Mark Lause
Exactly. It's been a while since I saw the Jackson documentary, which they've recently rebroadcast. My recollection is that it was simply the same old hero narrative of Andrew Jackson As Democratic Military Leader. In deference to the fact that it was all done after 1950, they peppered it with p

[Marxism] Honduras: Emergency Delegation Appeal

2009-07-29 Thread Greg McDonald
From: bu...@riseup.net Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:03:44 -0700 (PDT) To: "Boston CISPES listserv" Subject: [bostoncispes] Emergency Delegation to Honduras This Weekend: Respond Today] In case anyone can fly to Honduras this weekend... Please forward this around to your lists too. DAVID: Can you

Re: [Marxism] Iran: Whose Side are You On?

2009-07-29 Thread S. Artesian
Thanks, Tom. I hope it's clear that I'm pretty much in agreement with the thrust of Mehmet's comment. At least I think I'm in agreement with him. Anti-imperialism without a class content, a class opposition is going nowhere. It's a repetition compulsion ___

[Marxism] COLOMBIA VENEZUELA RELATIONS - THE NEW COLD WAR

2009-07-29 Thread nchamah miller
COLOMBIA VENEZUELA RELATIONS – THE NEW COLD WAR nchamah miller http://nchamahmiller.blogspot.com/ President Chavez, needed some prodding before he broke diplomatic relations with Colombia today: of course, he had serious considerations before doing so, given the substantial trade, mainly thro

Re: [Marxism] Anita O'Day documentary

2009-07-29 Thread RicardoStarkey
In a message dated 7/29/2009 12:03:03 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, sartes...@earthlink.net writes: Remember her performance of "Sweet Georgia Brown" at Newport? Unbelievable. Yes, I do remember it. Mostly because, if memory serves, it was included in this excellent film, which is also av

Re: [Marxism] Anita O'Day documentary

2009-07-29 Thread Louis Proyect
ricardostar...@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 7/29/2009 12:03:03 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > sartes...@earthlink.net writes: > > Remember her performance of > "Sweet Georgia Brown" at Newport? Unbelievable. > > Yes, I do remember it. Mostly because, if memory serves, it was includ

[Marxism] VIDEO: "Goldman Sachs are scum. They should be in the Hague."

2009-07-29 Thread Pat Costello
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/22855 “They are literally stealing a hundred million dollars a day. Goldman Sachs is stealing every day on the floor of the exchange. They should be in the Hague, they should be taken on financial terrorism charges. They should all be thrown in jail” -- Max

Re: [Marxism] Iran: Whose Side are You On? Your own.

2009-07-29 Thread Craig Brozefsky
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Richard Fidler wrote: > those actions. Similarly, we can and should defend the Iranian > government against imperialist threats and attacks, while in no way > giving political support to the clerical regime. Why is this so > difficult to understand? Because it is a

[Marxism] Britian:SWP and SP Debate Left Unity

2009-07-29 Thread Ratbag Media
http://averypublicsociologist.blogspot.com/2009/07/swp-and-sp-debate-left-unity.\ html It is good to see the SWP has printed a short reply to its open letter on left unity in the pages of Socialist Worker from Hannah Sell of the Socialist Party. She writes: The Socialist Party has always supporte

[Marxism] Clinton and the 3rd Generation coup d'etat in Honduras

2009-07-29 Thread Greg McDonald
In an important interview the other day on Democracy Now, both Mel Zelaya and his wife Xiomara came out with highly critical statements of Hillary Clinton, suggesting she is backpedaling on State Dept. support for the restoration of democracy in Honduras. Xiomara expressed indignation that the US g

[Marxism] Chavez freezes ties with Colombia, recalls ambassador

2009-07-29 Thread Stuart Munckton
http://www.smh.com.au/world/chavez-freezes-ties-with-colombia-20090729-e1lr.html -- "The free market is perfectly natural... do you think I am some kind of dummy?" — Jarvis Cocker "The basis of optimism is sheer terror" — Oscar Wilde __

Re: [Marxism] Britian:SWP and SP Debate Left Unity

2009-07-29 Thread Louis Proyect
Ratbag Media wrote: > http://averypublicsociologist.blogspot.com/2009/07/swp-and-sp-debate-left-unity.\ > html > Use this: http://averypublicsociologist.blogspot.com/2009/07/swp-and-sp-debate-left-unity.html YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when

[Marxism] The arrest of Henry Louis Bates

2009-07-29 Thread Eli Stephens
The title is mine, for eye-catching value. The article which follows was written by a local activist, Raj Jayadev: http://news.newamericamedia.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=0e04e004de044e2a27a01953c3f5a74d What if Henry Louis Gates Were Not an Acclaimed Professor? New America Media, C