Einde O'Callaghan (eind...@freenet.de) wrote on 2009-09-21 at 17:20:58 in
about Re: [Marxism] Germany's Die Linke shows the way for the left:
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> Lüko Willms wrote:
> > Einde O'Callaghan (eind...@freenet.de) wrote
> > on 2009-09-21 at 00:28:04 in
> &
Einde O'Callaghan (eind...@freenet.de) wrote on 2009-09-21 at 00:28:04 in
about Re: [Marxism] Germany's Die Linke shows the way for the left:
> The key question for Marxists in Germany is not whether DIE LINKE is
> reformist or not, but where Marxists should be active given th
Lüko Willms wrote:
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> As the "doctor at the death bed of capitalism", as Hilferding explained.
> The
> "socialism" they dream of is the "socialism" of Willy Brandt.
>
The key question for Marxists in Germany is not whether DIE LINKE is
reformist or not, but where Marxists should be act
What about the Antikapitalistische Linke and the other opposition groups. I
may be wrong, but I heard they form a fairly sizeable minority within the
party.
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brad bauerly (bbaue...@gmail.com) wrote on 2009-09-20 at 14:19:10 in
about Re: [Marxism] Germany's Die Linke shows the way for the left:
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> Some places where Die Linke have entered coalitions with the SPD
> do show both the limits to electoral politics and the nece
"The Partei Die Linke shows the way forward? Well, yes, back into bourgeois
politics."
A very good point. In my view this party is not a left wing party at all,
because it says "yes to wage labour not to cheap labour."
What is left in this statement? It does a good job for bourgeosie to
integrate
brad bauerly wrote:
> I don't think it really is as simple as either Luko or Einde (sp?) make it
> out to be.
I haven't maintained that it's simple at all. As a matter of fact it's
very difficult as a revolutionary to work out exactly what to do - this
is something I know from practical experie
I don't think it really is as simple as either Luko or Einde (sp?) make it
out to be. Some places where Die Linke have entered coalitions with the SPD
do show both the limits to electoral politics and the necessity to meet the
people were they are at to squeeze out even the slightest of gains for
http://www.cpgb.org.uk/worker/783/oskarlafontaine.php
Oskar Lafontaine: ‘We want to govern’ The results for the German left party
Die Linke in the August 30 regional elections are impressive, particularly
the 21.3% achieved in the federal state of Saarland. But is this the
beginning of the end for
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Jim Farmelant
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> Bhaskar Sunkara (bhaskar.sunk...@gmail.com) wrote on 2009-09-19 at
> 15:45:13 in about Re: [Marxism] Germany's Di
Lüko Willms wrote:
> Bhaskar Sunkara (bhaskar.sunk...@gmail.com) wrote on 2009-09-19 at
> 15:45:13 in about Re: [Marxism] Germany's Die Linke shows the way for the
> left:
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>> There is a militant minority in Die Linke that wants to build an
>> oppositional move
Lenin's Tomb wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Einde O'Callaghan wrote:
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>> I feel that both Richard and Lüko have an over-negative attitude to DIE
>> LINKE.
>>
>
> Ahem, ahem! It was *sarcasm*.
>
It must be living in Germany that does it - I'm obviously suffering from
an irony defici
Lüko Willms wrote:
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> I'll vote for the Pirates next sunday.
>
Now that's a really r-r-r-r-revolutionary choice, Lüko, considering that
both the deputy chairman and then the chairman have been heavily
criticised for their openness to the extreme right after giving
interviews to Junge Fre
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Einde O'Callaghan wrote:
> I feel that both Richard and Lüko have an over-negative attitude to DIE
> LINKE.
>
Ahem, ahem! It was *sarcasm*.
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Lenin's Tomb wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Lüko Willms wrote:
>
>> The Partei Die Linke shows the way forward? Well, yes, back into bourgeois
>> politics.
>>
>
> Yeah, because the working masses have already *abandoned* bourgeois
> politics, and the Linke wants to *trick* them back i
Bhaskar Sunkara (bhaskar.sunk...@gmail.com) wrote on 2009-09-19 at
15:45:13 in about Re: [Marxism] Germany's Die Linke shows the way for the
left:
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>
> There is a militant minority in Die Linke that wants to build an
> oppositional movement and not be mere left-social democr
yes.
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Not only was the content of Richard's post dripping with sarcasm he even put
asterisks for extra emphasis.
On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Mark Lause wrote:
> The point is the absurdity of the notion that the German working class has
> repudiated bourgeois politics
>
> ML
>
The point is the absurdity of the notion that the German working class has
repudiated bourgeois politics
ML
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There is a militant minority in Die Linke that wants to build an
oppositional movement and not be mere left-social democrats.
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Lenin's Tomb wrote: "the working masses have
already *abandoned* bourgeois politics, and the Linke wants to *trick* them
back into that old shell
game."
Is it just me or does laughter tend to echo in Lenin's Tomb?
ML
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On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Lüko Willms wrote:
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> The Partei Die Linke shows the way forward? Well, yes, back into bourgeois
> politics.
>
Yeah, because the working masses have already *abandoned* bourgeois
politics, and the Linke wants to *trick* them back into that old shell
game.
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Dennis Brasky (dmozart1...@gmail.com) wrote on 2009-09-19 at 13:18:46 in
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> > [Frank Spieth's] anti-capitalist, pro-social justice Die Linke is striking
> > a chord with an increasingly disenfranchised electorate, espousing
cau
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