Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Van Heijenoort's critique of Engels

2005-03-08 Thread Ralph Dumain
It depresses me that we still have to have these discussions in 2005. But once more into the breach . . . First, I'd suggest looking at Engels' motives for doing what he did, which was not to present a finished ontology for all time but to combat the half-assed philosophical vulgarities of his

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Van Heijenoort's critique of Engels

2005-03-08 Thread Waistline2
>>Evolution punctuated by revolution is another way of saying quantitative change turns into qualitative change. Socially, the ebb and flow of reform is evolutionary. It is change without changing the mode of production out of capitalism. Socialist revolution is a leap in which the mode of product

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Who's Turning Their Back? The Black Bourgeois

2005-03-08 Thread Waistline2
>>Lil Joe comment: Actually, there is no Black bourgeoisie because there is no Black nation: Blacks in the US are either capitalists, professionals, working class or and chronically unemployed, and in these economic categories the Black capitalists no different from White capitalists, Black workers

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Van Heijenoort's critique of Engels

2005-03-08 Thread Jim Farmelant
On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 13:51:13 -0800 (PST) andie nachgeborenen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > In fact all the standard examples of scientific > revolutions come from science done by > non-dialectically trained thinkers -- Lavoisier's > discovery of oxygen, Einstein's theory of relativity, > H

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Van Heijenoort's critique of Engels

2005-03-08 Thread Jim Farmelant
On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 13:51:13 -0800 (PST) andie nachgeborenen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I have always wondered about the fruitfulness of > abstract consideration of "dialectics," particularly > where they are (it is?) discussed as a "method." Here > Jim F seems to suggest the SJG thought th

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Van Heijenoort's critique of Engels

2005-03-08 Thread andie nachgeborenen
I have always wondered about the fruitfulness of abstract consideration of "dialectics," particularly where they are (it is?) discussed as a "method." Here Jim F seems to suggest the SJG thought that dialectics was a "method" or at least a heuristic for producing hypotheses. I have never seen any

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Van Heijenoort's critique of Engels

2005-03-08 Thread Jim Farmelant
Here is what Stephen Jay Gould had to say about punctuationism and dialectics in his book, *The Panda's Thumb. There, in the essay "Episodic Evolutionary Change," he wrote: -- If gradualism is more a product of Western thought than a fact of nature, then we should conside

[Marxism-Thaxis] Who's Turning Their Back? The Black Bourgeois

2005-03-08 Thread Lil Joe
Snip: "The political landscape of Black America has changed dramatically since the 80s because a new bread of Black people in America have separated themselves from the masses. A new breed of Black folks who consistently judge and sometimes treat other Black people more harshly than they judge a

[Marxism-Thaxis] Van Heijenoort's critique of Engels

2005-03-08 Thread Charles Brown
Marxism-Thaxis] OudeyisHegel, Marx, and, for that matter, Jay Gould (he and Dan Dennett - the American reductionist philosopher - fought over this issue) did not regard development to be incremental or continuous. The dialectic, the successive emergence of negations of previous conditions sugges

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Van Heijenoort's critique of Engels

2005-03-08 Thread Oudeyis
Hegel, Marx, and, for that matter, Jay Gould (he and Dan Dennett - the American reductionist philosopher - fought over this issue) did not regard development to be incremental or continuous. The dialectic, the successive emergence of negations of previous conditions suggests that development hops