This is more from over at
http://marxisthumanistinitiative.org/2009/05/05/brief-comments-on-the-relationship-between-marxism-and-the-hegelian-dialectic/comment-page-2/#comment-147
where Rosa L argues that Marx's method , his dialectic , is
totally not Hegel's, that he extirpates Hegel.
CB:
In the next two paragraphs of the chapter “Dialectics” of _Socialism:
Utopian and Scientific_, Engels describes Rosa L’s contradiction
“free”, metaphysical , formal logical thinking.
CB
^^^
But this conception (dialectics), correctly as it expresses the
general character of the picture of
Spoken like a true know it all saying nothing. Ralph deserves
himself, and that's about all he'll get.
On 9/8/09, Ralph Dumain rdum...@autodidactproject.org wrote:
I can't make a lick of sense out of Andrew Kliman's side of the
debate with Rosa.
But note that none of it has any relationship
http://marxisthumanistinitiative.org/2009/05/05/brief-comments-on-the-relationship-between-marxism-and-the-hegelian-dialectic/
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Here part of my old exchange with Rosa. The same issue of the
contradiction in John is a man came up in Kliman's exchange with her
Rosa gets CB
Charles Brown charlesb at cncl.ci.detroit.mi.us
Thu Aug 23 09:48:11 MDT 2007
I can't make a lick of sense out of Andrew Kliman's side of the
debate with Rosa.
But note that none of it has any relationship to dialectical
materialism or the Marxist-Leninist notion of dialectical logic,
which is really all that pedestrian Rosa has to argue against. And in
that arena Rosa
Clearly, the idea that the world is rational must be forced onto
nature; it cannot be read from it, since nature is not Mind.
^
CB: This seems an a priori statement by Rosa. It is not clear that
the idea that the world is rational must be forced onto nature, nor
that to read rationality from
Surely, the most that could legitimately be claimed here is that up to
now the available evidence supports a dialectical view of reality.
^
CB: Correct . See Marxism thaxis threads in which I point out that for
Engels, the dialectical quality of reality is an a posteriori, not a
priori,
It's an excellent article. I was able to download it for free in .pdf
at the site that is linked. Was that some quirk or is the journal
available for free right now?
I have put it into my handheld for future reading on the train.
The problem with the approach in terms of readership is that most
Rosa Luxemburg, the Legacy of Classical German Philosophy and the Fundamental
Methodological Questions of Social and Political Theory
http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~content=a785120183~db=all~order=page
Bei AOL
Interesting. I didn't know Rosa Luxemburg got mixed up in philosophy,
let alone attack Neo-Kantianism. I'm not going to pay $25 to learn
what she said about it, but I am curious.
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Rosa Luxemburg, the Legacy of Classical German Philosophy and the
RD:
But what conclusions to draw without knowing what people do and how
they behave off-list? This doesn't just pertain to Marxists, but to
any political movement, and to many ostensibly non-political subjects.
I am not even sure what conclusions to draw from the ON-LIST
behaviour. For
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I've put this to plain text , but this pc sometimes causes the posts to
show up in long lines across the page anyway.
I
I've put this to plain text , but this pc sometimes causes the posts to show
up in long lines across the page anyway.
I gotta admit that Rosa L.packs in so many putdowns per essay, that I find it
hard not to get diverted into repartee; and it kind of bogs me down in reading
through her stuff.
I may be lliterate, but at least she admits I'm logical.
CB
^^^
Logical Illiterates Strike Again
A year or so ago I had the great misfortune to correspond with an irascible
fellow who could not resist making ill-informed comments about my Essays, all
the while refusing to read them.
I
I haven't checked the links, but am I Mr. D?
You know, this is a sad case of Trotskyist obsessive-compulsive
behavior, i.e. of a Trot consumed by his quarrels with other Trots,
and to a lesser extent his competitors among other
Marxist-Leninists. It's pathetic.
It's true that diamat--at
Buy a vibrator you wrote ? I suppose that is a new intelligent feminist
marxist argument ?
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W's philosophy actually calls out for following up
with such investigation. If you want to go beyond
philosophy, you have to go _somewhere_ -- maybe to
political economy and political sociology, like Marx,
maybe to
--- Ralph Dumain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All this is rather superficial, however. I think
Ernest Gellner nailed the
essentially conservative nature of Wittgenstein's
philosophy.
Oh, agreed. W thought that philosophy done right
leaves everything as it is. That is a quote or at
least a
Rosa cites Bukharin as giving the best summary of Dialectical Marxism.
Ironically, at one point Lenin called Bukharin the Party's favorite , but
criticized him for lack of dialectics in his work. I guess it makes sense
that if Rosa is a critic of dialectics ,a weak dialectician would be the
best
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Rosa cites Bukharin as giving the best summary of Dialectical Marxism.
Ironically, at one point Lenin called Bukharin the Party's favorite
At http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rosa.l/index.htm
Rosa tells us that she has rewritten her essay #4
in response to Ralph's post:
www.mail-archive.com/marxism-thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu/msg02786.html
Rosa's rewritten essay can be found at:
I don't really subscribe to A small group of thoughtful people could
change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.
Margaret Mead
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/m/margaretme130543.html
But Rosa Parks had a demonstration of one in a coordinated campaign planned
by a
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CB: I've heard it said that Rosa Parks was in the CPUSA at the time she
satdown.
WL: What is the point?
CB: You had just run down a whole thing about the problems of the CPUSA in
the South, how the CPUSA was in trouble.
Then you end with then Rosa Parks happened. Would be kind
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Earlier today, a memorial was held for Rosa Parks, who passed October 24,
2005. Rosa Parks was crowned the Mother of the Civil Rights Movement for
her
individual role and arrest December 1, 1955, in
CB: I've heard it said that Rosa Parks was in the CPUSA at the time she
satdown.
WL: What is the point? Rosa Parks as individual narrative of American history
exists on a continuum related to Plessy. The CPUSA's role in our history is
never disputed by me, nor am I a party hater. For valid
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