Re: [marxmail] Meet the Philosopher Who Is Trying to Explain the Pandemic

It works for me, Peter. On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 8:29 PM Peter Turner wrote: > The link you provide does not go to the subject you cite. > > On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 6:42 PM Dayne Goodwin > wrote: > >> *U.S. troops buried Iraqi foes alive. Army says division buried thousands >> of Iraqi soldiers

Re: [marxmail] What Materialist Black Political History Actually Looks Like

This is more than a year old. Reed is misrepresenting several issues while grinding an axe subtly against those who subscribe to the Black Radical Tradition described by Cedric Robinson's book *Black Marxism*. Read between the lines of this and several other polemics and you discern that underlyin

Re: [marxmail] What Materialist Black Political History Actually Looks Like

I think that Reed's evaluation of C.L.R. James is unfair to James' full life political trajectory. I think that the most popular understandings of James' politics suffer from anti-Marxist interpretations of James' later years. It has been a few years but i think of Farrukh Dhondy's biography of J

[marxmail] Moderator's note

On 8/23/20 9:38 PM, Max Power wrote: A fantastic article by Adolph Reed, Jr. Whatever the failings of the DSA/Jacobin crowd, it’s to their credit that they give priority to Dr. Reed. Comrade Power, you've been posting links to Reed's articles with a single sentence of yours prefixing it on an

[marxmail] How Zeynep Tufekci Keeps Getting the Big Things Right

(Zeynep was part of the moderation board for the Marxism list that preceded Marxmail.) NY Times, August 23, 2020 How Zeynep Tufekci Keeps Getting the Big Things Right By Ben Smith When the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention told Americans in January that they didn’t need to wear masks,

Re: [marxmail] Meet the Philosopher Who Is Trying to Explain the Pandemic

The link you provide does not go to the subject you cite. On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 6:42 PM Dayne Goodwin wrote: > *U.S. troops buried Iraqi foes alive. Army says division buried thousands > of Iraqi soldiers in trench fighting.* > by Newsday, Fort Riley Kansas > Baltimore Sun, Sept. 12, 1991 > ht

Re: [marxmail] Meet the Philosopher Who Is Trying to Explain the Pandemic

*U.S. troops buried Iraqi foes alive. Army says division buried thousands of Iraqi soldiers in trench fighting.* by Newsday, Fort Riley Kansas Baltimore Sun, Sept. 12, 1991 https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-1991-09-12-1991255203-story.html On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 4:14 PM wrote: > I'm not

Re: [marxmail] America's best-known open fascist backs Biden

It is a different Spencer. This Spencer was Donald Trump's Navy Secretary (who earlier this year endorsed Mike Bloomberg for president). The Richard B. Spencer is the fascist leader. Two different people. From: marxmail@groups.io on behalf of Louis Proyect

[marxmail] H-Net Review [H-Diplo]: Polak-Springer on Panagiotidis, 'The Unchosen Ones: Diaspora, Nation, and Migration in Israel and Germany'

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[marxmail] "Advertisements for Myself" (apologies to Mailer)

Utah's Gandhi Alliance for Peace** *(which i have worked with in anti-war coalitions and occasional peace projects) gives an annual award to someone each year around Gandhi's birthday (October 2). I learned recently that they decided to give me the 2020 peace award. I was asked to write a brief '

Re: [marxmail] Doris Lessing’s ‘Golden Notebook’ and Our Era of Unrest

The book to compare to *Going Away *would be Lessing's *Berger' Daughter, *I think. Dan My latest book, my first novel. trotskyintijuana.com On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 8:31 PM Louis Proyect wrote: > It's worth mentioning that my good cyberfriend, the late Clancy Sigal, > was the American expatri

Re: [marxmail] Doris Lessing’s ‘Golden Notebook’ and Our Era of Unrest

It's worth mentioning that my good cyberfriend, the late Clancy Sigal, was the American expatriate who was depicted as her lover in the novel. He doesn't come off well at all. I read "Golden Notebook" about 25 years ago and thought it was okay but it couldn't hold a candle to Clancy's "Going Aw

Re: [marxmail] Doris Lessing’s ‘Golden Notebook’ and Our Era of Unrest

But thanks for your quotation from her, Patrick. Dan My latest book, my first novel. trotskyintijuana.com On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 8:19 PM Patrick Bond wrote: > Sorry comrade Dan, my apologies, that quote was from the NY Times > article... I was sloppy in hitting "return" without clarifying th

Re: [marxmail] Doris Lessing’s ‘Golden Notebook’ and Our Era of Unrest

Sorry comrade Dan, my apologies, that quote was from the NY Times article... I was sloppy in hitting "return" without clarifying that. On 8/24/2020 2:16 AM, Dan La Botz wrote: I did not write that that I remember, certainly not today, though I think it's true, or if not a Communist, a fellow tr

Re: [marxmail] Doris Lessing’s ‘Golden Notebook’ and Our Era of Unrest

I did not write that that I remember, certainly not today, though I think it's true, or if not a Communist, a fellow traveler. Dan My latest book, my first novel. trotskyintijuana.com On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 8:09 PM Patrick Bond wrote: > On 8/23/2020 7:50 PM, Dan La Botz wrote: > > communist

Re: [marxmail] Doris Lessing’s ‘Golden Notebook’ and Our Era of Unrest

On 8/23/2020 7:50 PM, Dan La Botz wrote: communist stalwarts in the West, like Lessing, felt they’d had the carpet pulled out from under them. Was she really a communist? Yes, technically, for awhile via membership in a Zimbabwe old-style party. But really? More "God that Failed" type, perha

[marxmail] America's best-known open fascist backs Biden

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[marxmail] Socialism in the 21st Century

The idea of socialism has gained great popularity as an alternative to capitalism, particularly among the young. In the last century it was conceived as a state directed economy.Today Leftists are rethinking socialism afresh, with a focus on a resilient civil society as the foundation.This emph

Re: [marxmail] GWTW-TCM's Disclaimer-Shows Tonight 8PM EST

Ugh. This is what comes of paying too much attention to "the arts." I love the Carol Burnett bit where she comes sashaying down a staircase wearing a curtain complete with rod and describes it as "just a little somethin' Ah saw in the winder." I had an English teacher of Southern origin in high

Re: [marxmail] Meet the Philosopher Who Is Trying to Explain the Pandemic

I'm not familiar with this Agamben (gasp!) but am fairly convinced that the assertion about mass disposal of plague victims is transparent nonsense. The inconvenient dead have frequently been shoveled into pits, dumped, and incinerated en masse , whether their piles are the result of pandemic di

[marxmail] GWTW-TCM's Disclaimer-Shows Tonight 8PM EST

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[marxmail] Lest We Forget Sacco and Vanzetti

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Re: [marxmail] Meet the Philosopher Who Is Trying to Explain the Pandemic

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/17/books/review/christopher-caldwell-age-of-entitlement.html?referringSource=articleShare > On Aug 23, 2020, at 9:31 AM, Louis Proyect wrote: > >  > > Opinion > Meet the Philosopher Who Is Trying to Explain the Pandemic > Giorgio Agamben criticizes the “techno-m

Re: [marxmail] The Myth of Class Reductionism

On 8/23/20 4:53 PM, Star Akokip wrote: Reed said "Marxists", not Trots. This kind of baiting is not allowed here. And, frankly, it is the kind of crap you'd see on Twitter where everybody uses tags like "Star Akokip". Say goodbye to Star. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receiv

Re: [marxmail] The Myth of Class Reductionism

Reed said "Marxists", not Trots. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#769): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/769 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/76368815/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES#1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous

Re: [marxmail] The Myth of Class Reductionism

I won't wade into this debate, but sometimes our personal experience or knowledge can add to the discussion. I read Reed's article and noted one point that is clearly wrong: "Throughout the first half of the twentieth century, Communists, Socialists, labor-leftists, and Marxists of all stripes ch

[marxmail] A Hidden Tycoon, African Explosives, and a Loan from a Notorious Bank: Questionable Connections Surround Beirut Explosion Shipment - OCCRP

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[marxmail] Che Guevara and the Economics of Socialist Transition - COSMONAUT

Christian, Donald, and Rudy sit down for a podcast discussion on Che Guevara’s program for a socialist transition using Helen Yaffe’s book/Che Guevara: The Economics of Revolution/as a background.  We visit the economic “Great Debate” of Cuba in the early 1960s, the different approaches to usin

[marxmail] FW: As Politicians Clashed, Bolivia's Pandemic Death Rate Soared

Bolivia was mired in political turmoil when the pandemic hit. The response was chaotic. And the surge in deaths that followed was among the worst in the world, according to an analysis by The New York Times. See also "Bolivia's

Re: [marxmail] Doris Lessing’s ‘Golden Notebook’ and Our Era of Unrest

Thanks, I didn't see it. Dan My latest book, my first novel. trotskyintijuana.com On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 1:54 PM Louis Proyect wrote: > On 8/23/20 1:50 PM, Dan La Botz wrote: > > Where did this article come from? > Dan > > The NY Times. It was there in small print. Here's the link: > > > htt

Re: [marxmail] Doris Lessing’s ‘Golden Notebook’ and Our Era of Unrest

On 8/23/20 1:50 PM, Dan La Botz wrote: Where did this article come from? Dan The NY Times. It was there in small print. Here's the link: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/15/books/review/doris-lessing-golden-notebook.html -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent t

Re: [marxmail] Doris Lessing’s ‘Golden Notebook’ and Our Era of Unrest

Where did this article come from? Dan On Sun, Aug 23, 2020, 12:46 PM Louis Proyect wrote: > ESSAY > Doris Lessing’s ‘Golden Notebook’ and Our Era of Unrest > [image: Doris Lessing in 1994.] > Doris Lessing in 1994.Credit...Michelle V. Agins/The New York Times > > By Karan Mahajan > >- NY Tim

Re: [marxmail] The Myth of Class Reductionism

On 8/23/20 1:20 PM, Max Power wrote: Why do people want to silence Adolph Reed, Jr. to begin with? For the fourth time, Afrosoc was not interested in silencing him. They would have preferred a debate with someone like Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor but clearly the organizers were only interested in

Re: [marxmail] Washington Postal Workers Defy USPS Orders And Reinstall Mail Sorting Machines

That's what they should all unify to do and what I called APWU Presd3ent Diamondstein to urge -- that number is (202) 842-4250. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#758): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/758 Mute This Topic

Re: [marxmail] Meet the Philosopher Who Is Trying to Explain the Pandemic

An interesting review from an author with pretty vile views about immigration. —Ryan > On Aug 23, 2020, at 9:31 AM, Louis Proyect wrote: > >  > > Opinion > Meet the Philosopher Who Is Trying to Explain the Pandemic > Giorgio Agamben criticizes the “techno-medical despotism” of quarantines and

[marxmail] Doris Lessing’s ‘Golden Notebook’ and Our Era of Unrest

ESSAY Doris Lessing’s ‘Golden Notebook’ and Our Era of Unrest Doris Lessing in 1994. Doris Lessing in 1994.Credit...Michelle V. Agins/The New York Times ByKaran Mahajan * NY Times, PublishedAug. 15, 2020UpdatedAug. 22, 2020 * o

[marxmail] The Groundbreaking Scientist Who Risked All in Pursuit of His Beliefs

NONFICTION The Groundbreaking Scientist Who Risked All in Pursuit of His Beliefs J.B.S. Haldane with a model of an air raid shelter he designed during World War II. At his best, Haldane was a heroic example of the scientist as activist, humanist and idealist. J.B.S. Haldane with a model of a

[marxmail] Meet the Philosopher Who Is Trying to Explain the Pandemic

Opinion Meet the Philosopher Who Is Trying to Explain the Pandemic Giorgio Agamben criticizes the “techno-medical despotism” of quarantines and closings. Christopher Caldwell ByChristopher Caldwell Mr. Caldwell is the author of “Reflections on th

Re: [marxmail] Reflections on the DSA Experience

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Re: [marxmail] Reflections on the DSA Experience

On 8/23/20 11:43 AM, Star Akokip wrote: AFROSOC didn't cobble together a statement demanding the talk not occur, none of it I've asked you and Max Power 3 times already for the words from the Afrosoc statement that specifically demanded that the talk not take place and you two just blithely

Re: [marxmail] Reflections on the DSA Experience

Do you know what I find baffling? Even when you win ("you" meaning the ones who cancelled this event and their defenders), you can't take a victory lap. Image that none of the events leading up to Reed's cancelled talk occurred — the DSA person didn't take down the Facebook and Twitter notificat

[marxmail] Hungry New Yorkers line up around the block for free food

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Re: [marxmail] Reflections on the DSA Experience

On 8/23/20 11:06 AM, Max Power wrote: What you do not do is wait until the day of a scheduled event and demand that it not occur, Citation? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#749): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/749

Re: [marxmail] Reflections on the DSA Experience

On 8/23/20 10:12 AM, Star Akokip wrote: The thing I don't understand is who you think believes this position? Maybe you can explain it. Adolph Reed Jr. believes it. That's exactly what he said in an Bellows interview. His explanation of why he dropped out starts at 58 minutes. He just didn't

[marxmail] Hanna Zubkova, "Including" (On the police violence against Belarusian protesters)

The Belarusian artist Hanna Zubkova recently produced this heart-wrenching poetization of the list of injuries sustained by protesters during the first days of the revolution, when riot police inflicted incredible violence on the Belarusian people. https://therussianreader.com/2020/08/23/hanna-

Re: [marxmail] Reflections on the DSA Experience

> As I wrote, the responsibility lies with DSA itself; AFROSOC is taking the > heat for the larger group. This is explained further in this piece, by the > Class Unity caucus of DSA: > https://classunity.org/spiraling-anti-marxism-in-the-dsa/ Wanting to turn an event with Reed into a debate is

Re: [marxmail] The Biden Era Will Put the New Left to the Test | The New Republic

Interesting article to this point and while I agree with much of it there are big contradictions. Obviously the best implied option is to reject both wings of the corporate party and opt for revolution but as she admits, "Most Americans have been so bullied by the system that their political act

Re: [marxmail] The Case for a Left Patriotism

On Sat, Aug 22, 2020, at 06:39, Max Power wrote: > “How can a populist left that wants to win elections and supposedly help the > working class do so if it hates the very country it wants to govern, > especially when such bourgeois opinions are at direct odds with what workers > feel?” Ignorin

Re: [marxmail] Reflections on the DSA Experience

The thing I don't understand is who you think believes this position? Maybe you can explain it. Saying that A should not occur and B should, is cancelling A. As I wrote, the responsibility lies with DSA itself; AFROSOC is taking the heat for the larger group. This is explained further in this p

[marxmail] H-Net Review [H-Socialisms]: Spreen on Bach, 'What Remains: Everyday Encounters with the Socialist Past in Germany'

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Re: [marxmail] Reflections on the DSA Experience

On 8/23/20 9:04 AM, Star Akokip wrote: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GnMhl9Mi1UKKbBdX2ygsbAOT9IBlzfrtlPmoxDtdJ5k/edit "*We demand  the event to be changed to a debate of Adolph Reed’s class reductionist analysis versus our intersectional socialist analysis. We’ll give you a head start o

Re: [marxmail] Two Great Writers Meet: Chekhov and Tolstoy - CounterPunch.org

This reminds me of something I read about the time Charles Bukowski and William Burroughs were reading at the same event, and staying the same hotel. When Bukowski was asked if he wanted to meet Burroughs, he said "No", and when Burroughs was asked if he wanted to meet Bukowski, he said "No". D

Re: [marxmail] Reflections on the DSA Experience

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[marxmail] Torch Songs for Joe - CounterPunch.org

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[marxmail] Two Great Writers Meet: Chekhov and Tolstoy - CounterPunch.org

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Re: [marxmail] Reflections on the DSA Experience

On 8/23/20 8:31 AM, Star Akokip wrote: They demanded that Reed's talk not take place, and that's what happened. Citation? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#734): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/734 Mute This Topic:

Re: [marxmail] Reflections on the DSA Experience

Defenders of AFROSOC need to understand a couple of things. No one believes their story. They demanded that Reed's talk not take place, and that's what happened. They come across as liars, claiming otherwise. They also need to understand that by denying responsibility for what they did, they ap

Re: [marxmail] my latest

On 8/23/20 4:26 AM, Dennis Brasky wrote: Franklin is a leftist who as far as I know has never supported a left alternative to his beloved Democratic Party. Friends have told me that he was livid with anyone daring to criticize Obama. That's true but he is a great historian and environmental a

Re: [marxmail] my latest

Franklin is a leftist who as far as I know has never supported a left alternative to his beloved Democratic Party. Friends have told me that he was livid with anyone daring to criticize Obama. He is no "comrade" of mine! Dennis Brasky On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 7:25 PM Michael Meeropol wrote: > F