[marxmail] Division of Labor

2020-09-11 Thread jugg
Why marxists should not mention liberation and production in the same breath: A neoprimitivist critique from John Zerzan: 5 . DIVISION OF LABOR Di-vi-sion of la-bor n. 1 . the breakdown into specific, circumscribed tasks for maximum efficiency of output which constitutes manufacture; cardinal as

Re: [marxmail] "How Trump is losing his base"

2020-09-11 Thread Dayne Goodwin
“The Democrats are worthless”: An interview with Howie Hawkins Gregor Baszak, Platypus Review 126 | May 2020 https://platypus1917.org/2020/05/01/the-democrats-are-worthless-an-interview-with-howie-hawkins/ . . . "... I think the problem in this country is that since 1936 the Popular Front, when t

Re: [marxmail] Debt

2020-09-11 Thread Dayne Goodwin
Thanks Andrew. we know that anarchism is a political ideology/perspective that has developed mainly from within petit-bourgeois sectors of capitalist (or becoming-capitalist) societies On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 6:43 AM Andrew Pollack wrote: > > Something I posted to this list a few years ago on Gra

Re: [marxmail] "How Trump is losing his base"

2020-09-11 Thread Dayne Goodwin
The case for an independent Left party by Howie Hawkins International Socialist Review, Issue #107, 2018 https://isreview.org/issue/107/case-independent-left-party -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#1449): https://groups.io/g/

Re: [marxmail] Movement For A People's Party - A Party For Us

2020-09-11 Thread Roger Kulp
https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/1263 Andrew Stewart,and anybody else,what,do suggest then,is the best way forward for left,if our goal is to organize,and build our numbers? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#1448): http

Re: [marxmail] "How Trump is losing his base"

2020-09-11 Thread Dayne Goodwin
You know that Nader - in addition to never identifying explicitly as a socialist - was also never a member of the Green Party? The Greens approached Nader about running on their ballot line as a means of popularizing the Greens. In the presidential campaign of 1996 Nader okayed the Greens using h

[marxmail] ‘Green’ billionaires behind professional activist network that led suppression of ‘Planet of the Humans’ documentary

2020-09-11 Thread Andrew Stewart
https://thegrayzone.com/2020/09/07/green-billionaires-planet-of-the-humans/ -- Best regards, Andrew Stewart -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#1446): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/1446 Mute This Topic: https://groups

Re: [marxmail] Re-Appraising “The West Wing”: A Multi-Season Hyperreal Clinton Sobriquet-Cum-Apologia For Thermidor - CounterPunch.org

2020-09-11 Thread Andrew Stewart
Thanks for the kind word Michael. Could the WEST WING episode re: Gault entail the Rosenbergs as well? Probably, the whole theory of simulation and simulacra posits the invocation of memory, not genuine historical facts, and the blurriness is part of what makes the system effective. It is all ab

[marxmail] H-Net Review [H-Urban]: Musekamp on Stangl, 'Risen from Ruins: The Cultural Politics of Rebuilding East Berlin'

2020-09-11 Thread Andrew Stewart
Best regards, Andrew Stewart - - - Subscribe to the Washington Babylon newsletter via https://washingtonbabylon.com/newsletter/ Begin forwarded message: > From: H-Net Staff via H-REVIEW > Date: September 11, 2020 at 8:48:04 PM EDT > To: h-rev...@lists.h-net.org > Cc: H-Net Staff > Subject:

Re: [marxmail] Adolph Reed on American Affairs and Angela Nagle

2020-09-11 Thread Louis Proyect
On 9/11/20 4:55 PM, Carol Stokes wrote: I don't know if you are referring to some other time Reed discussed Nagle, but in the Katie Halper interview, Reed does not say he turned down the $2,000 because of Nagle, and he does not call her a fascist. Yes, you're right. But he did call Julius Kr

Re: [marxmail] Adolph Reed on American Affairs and Angela Nagle

2020-09-11 Thread Carol Stokes
On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 12:09 PM, Louis Proyect wrote: > > > > I haven't read Nagle but I've heard a lot about being "hostile to the > working class" from Adolph Reed Jr. who refused $2000 from American > Affairs because she had written an article there. He referred to her as a > fascist but th

[marxmail] Interesting paragraph from Foster's "Return of Nature"

2020-09-11 Thread Louis Proyect
The 1930s and early 1940s were a time in which scientists in Britain became increasingly radical in their political orientation, reflecting the battle against fascism. C. P. Snow estimated that of the two hundred brightest young physicists in Britain, around three-quarters considered themselves

[marxmail] Louis Proyect: Review - Philosophical Arabesques

2020-09-11 Thread Louis Proyect
In chapter nine of "Return of Nature", Foster discusses Bukharin's "Philosophical Arabesques", a work written in prison. I reviewed it for "Revolutionary History" in 2005. It is a reminder that Trotsky was not the only brilliant revolutionary in the USSR. https://www.marxists.org/history/etol/

[marxmail] (2) Introduction to Marx and Marxism 1 General Introduction. - YouTube

2020-09-11 Thread Louis Proyect
John Molyneux lectures. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_3S8Zg12ig -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#1439): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/1439 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/76788107/21656 -=-=-

Re: [marxmail] Adolph Reed on American Affairs and Angela Nagle

2020-09-11 Thread Jerry Monaco
There are no good guys or gals. There are only those relatively not bad good gals and guys. The rest are neutral (which in the worse times is the worse than being bad) and then exploitative and murderous and thugs and oppressors. Those of us who aspire to recognize our "kinship with all living bei

Re: [marxmail] New Collection on Chile's Sept. 11th

2020-09-11 Thread Jerry Monaco
Oh my! You take me too seriously here. I was being ironic (jealous, envious?) but thank you. I in fact subscribed on your recommendation and watched HAPPY HOUR on Brody’s recommendation at the New Yorker. On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 12:45 PM Louis Proyect wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/11/20 12:

[marxmail] News from Utah

2020-09-11 Thread Louis Proyect
Looks like they're back up and running but part of their rebirth was eliminating the Marxism list, not that I'd want to go back there after what we went through. One benefit about them rebooting is the availability of our archives that go back to the earliest days, starting in 1994 with the Mar

Re: [marxmail] Re-Appraising “The West Wing”: A Multi-Season Hyperreal Clinton Sobriquet-Cum-Apologia For Thermidor - CounterPunch.org

2020-09-11 Thread Alan Ginsberg
Michael Meeropol's book "Surrender: How the Clinton Administration Completed the Reagan Revolution" appears to be available at the link below. (I write "appears" because I had a little bit of difficulty with the publisher's website.) https://www.fulcrum.org/ concern/monographs/bv73c1298 ( http

Re: [marxmail] Re-Appraising “The West Wing”: A Multi-Season Hyperreal Clinton Sobriquet-Cum-Apologia For Thermidor - CounterPunch.org

2020-09-11 Thread Michael Meeropol
Andrew thanks for that most interesting and informative analysis --- Recognizing the role of the Clinton Administration (and the DLC "capture" of the Democrats around that time) leads me to once again give a commercial for my 1998 book SURRENDER, HOW THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION COMPLETED THE REAGAN

Re: [marxmail] New Collection on Chile's Sept. 11th

2020-09-11 Thread Louis Proyect
On 9/11/20 12:41 PM, Jerry Monaco wrote: How do you rate a personal method from Priscilla Posada. I've subscribed to Ovid for a while now and never got a personal message from her. I'm a film critic, specifically CounterPunch's film editor and a member of New York Film Critics Online with o

Re: [marxmail] retired Salvadoran military colonel convicted of murders over thirty years ago

2020-09-11 Thread Dennis Brasky
we can take turns! On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 12:37 PM Jerry Monaco wrote: > Thank you for this. I am on the email list for NSA but somehow I missed > this. > > On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 12:11 PM Dennis Brasky > wrote: > >> *Washington, D.C., September 11, 2020 –* In a highly-anticipated, and >> l

Re: [marxmail] New Collection on Chile's Sept. 11th

2020-09-11 Thread Jerry Monaco
Louis, How do you rate a personal method from Priscilla Posada. I've subscribed to Ovid for a while now and never got a personal message from her. And yes, this is the Netflix for Leftists. But every once in a while they have something that should be in the mainstream but because of the quarks of

Re: [marxmail] retired Salvadoran military colonel convicted of murders over thirty years ago

2020-09-11 Thread Jerry Monaco
Thank you for this. I am on the email list for NSA but somehow I missed this. On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 12:11 PM Dennis Brasky wrote: > *Washington, D.C., September 11, 2020 –* In a highly-anticipated, and > long-awaited ruling, the National Court of Spain today convicted a retired > Salvadoran mi

[marxmail] retired Salvadoran military colonel convicted of murders over thirty years ago

2020-09-11 Thread Dennis Brasky
*Washington, D.C., September 11, 2020 –* In a highly-anticipated, and long-awaited ruling, the National Court of Spain today convicted a retired Salvadoran military colonel for acts of state terrorism and murder in the assassination of six Jesuit priests, their housekeeper and her teenaged daughter

Re: [marxmail] Adolph Reed on American Affairs and Angela Nagle

2020-09-11 Thread Louis Proyect
On 9/11/20 12:01 PM, Carol Stokes wrote: Regarding Nagle in general, she's part of a small but growing group of people who refer to themselves (sometimes, for lack of a better description) as post-left. Their argument is that the left has become a petite bourgeois project that is hostile to t

[marxmail] New Collection on Chile's Sept. 11th

2020-09-11 Thread Louis Proyect
OVID TV is great. The Netflix for radicals. Forwarded Message Subject:New Collection on Chile's Sept. 11th Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 15:47:29 + From: Priscilla Posada To: Louis Proyect Hi Louis, We've curated a collection of 8 films based around the cia-

Re: [marxmail] Adolph Reed on American Affairs and Angela Nagle

2020-09-11 Thread Carol Stokes
It's useful as a snapshot of a time in the development of online interactions. By the time she gets to the end of the book, she describes how much of what she wrote about has already changed. It's an easy read; get a library copy. :) Regarding Nagle in general, she's part of a small but growing

Re: [marxmail] Adolph Reed on American Affairs and Angela Nagle

2020-09-11 Thread Ryan via groups.io
I’m working as fast as I can. There are just so many bad people (like I guess Chris Hedges is bad??) it’s hard to know where ya’lls battle lines are. I’m not asking to be spoonfed. Never have. I appreciate the list for the links to articles and the history mostly. Thanks for doing it. —Ryan >

Re: [marxmail] Adolph Reed on American Affairs and Angela Nagle

2020-09-11 Thread chimpanzo via groups.io
That is what the history of Leninism is--a history of ad hominem attacks on and by "good guys" vs. "bad guys". It serves a shortcut for shortcut thinking in general--a rigid belief in truisms such as "there can be no peaceful transition back to capitalism from a deformed workers state because th

Re: [marxmail] Adolph Reed on American Affairs and Angela Nagle

2020-09-11 Thread Louis Proyect
On 9/11/20 11:33 AM, Ryan via groups.io wrote: There are a lot of ad hominem attacks on this list. Makes it difficult for a relative newcomer to socialism (8 yrs rather than 60) to sort out who the “good guys” and “bad guys” are. Nobody is going to spoon-feed you background, Ryan. You have ta

Re: [marxmail] Adolph Reed on American Affairs and Angela Nagle

2020-09-11 Thread Ryan via groups.io
There are a lot of ad hominem attacks on this list. Makes it difficult for a relative newcomer to socialism (8 yrs rather than 60) to sort out who the “good guys” and “bad guys” are. —Ryan > On Sep 11, 2020, at 8:18 AM, Tristan Sloughter wrote: > >  >> >> Just consider that Catalyst publis

Re: [marxmail] Adolph Reed on American Affairs and Angela Nagle

2020-09-11 Thread Tristan Sloughter
>Just consider that Catalyst published an article by Amber A'Lee Frost who is >okay with Nagle. Six degrees of separation... Yup. I was very disappointed to see her in Catalyst. I wish ISR was still around. I'll be subscribing to Spectre instead. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You rec

Re: [marxmail] Adolph Reed on American Affairs and Angela Nagle

2020-09-11 Thread Tristan Sloughter
> Her book "Kill All Normies" is great. I never read it so basing this on reviews and quotes but wasn't "Kill All Normies" basically just taking the online rights word for what created them (tumblr!) and fails at basic things like getting Canada's C-16 law correct. It sounds more like the NYTi

Re: [marxmail] Adolph Reed on American Affairs and Angela Nagle

2020-09-11 Thread Louis Proyect
On 9/11/20 10:25 AM, Carol Stokes wrote: Way too much is being made of this. He mentioned her in passing. If anything, it should increase her readership. Yeah, her reputation precedes her. At one point, she was considered part of the left. After this article appeared, she became toxic except f

Re: [marxmail] Adolph Reed on American Affairs and Angela Nagle

2020-09-11 Thread Carol Stokes
Way too much is being made of this. He mentioned her in passing. If anything, it should increase her readership. Her book "Kill All Normies" is great. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#1418): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/me

Re: [marxmail] Adolph Reed on American Affairs and Angela Nagle

2020-09-11 Thread Louis Proyect
On 9/11/20 9:48 AM, Tristan Sloughter wrote: This is pretty funny. Reed was interviewed by Katie Halper and brought up American Affairs and Angela Nagle. I scanned through the interview to find the time of the clip that is floating around twitter: https://youtu.be/wwPDTkKJVDk?t=7232 Tristan

[marxmail] Re-Appraising “The West Wing”: A Multi-Season Hyperreal Clinton Sobriquet-Cum-Apologia For Thermidor - CounterPunch.org

2020-09-11 Thread Andrew Stewart
https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/09/11/re-appraising-the-west-wing-a-multi-season-hyperreal-clinton-sobriquet-cum-apologia-for-thermidor/ Best regards, Andrew Stewart - - - Subscribe to the Washington Babylon newsletter via https://washingtonbabylon.com/newsletter/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Grou

[marxmail] Adolph Reed on American Affairs and Angela Nagle

2020-09-11 Thread Tristan Sloughter
This is pretty funny. Reed was interviewed by Katie Halper and brought up American Affairs and Angela Nagle. I scanned through the interview to find the time of the clip that is floating around twitter: https://youtu.be/wwPDTkKJVDk?t=7232 Tristan -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You re

[marxmail] Inequality Is High Within the Black Community

2020-09-11 Thread C. Horgan
"In every case, individuals at the 10th percentile earn less than a third of their race-wide median. For Blacks, the number is less than 25 percent. As a result, knowing the race-wide median provides minimal insight into the lives of the poor regardless of their race."   https://www.peoplespolicy

[marxmail] Iran's secular shift: new survey reveals huge changes in religious beliefs

2020-09-11 Thread Louis Proyect
https://theconversation.com/irans-secular-shift-new-survey-reveals-huge-changes-in-religious-beliefs-145253 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#1413): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/1413 Mute This Topic: https://groups

[marxmail] Biden’s transition team: neoliberalism incarnate | Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist

2020-09-11 Thread Louis Proyect
On September 5^th , Joe Biden added four new members to his transition team, which was not really a team. It consisted only of Ted Kaufman, the 81-year old Democratic senator from Delaware. Considering Kaufman’s reputation as a deficit hawk and his advanced age, Biden had to cover his left flan

Re: [marxmail] Comanches and slavery

2020-09-11 Thread Carol Stokes
On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 07:27 AM, Louis Proyect wrote: > > On 9/11/20 1:21 AM, Adam R. Wilson via groups.io wrote: > >> What's the best way to contact you directly? > > Comrades can always reach me at l...@panix.com. I'm assuming you'd like > a copy. You can upload files to this group. -=-=-=

[marxmail] Festering Grievances and the Return to Arms in Southern Syria-final.pdf

2020-09-11 Thread Louis Proyect
https://cadmus.eui.eu/bitstream/handle/1814/66786/Festering%20Grievances%20and%20the%20Return%20to%20Arms%20in%20Southern%20Syria-final.pdf -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#1410): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/1410

[marxmail] The Railroad Strike of 1877 and the birth of modern policing | ROAR Magazine

2020-09-11 Thread Louis Proyect
https://roarmag.org/essays/1877-railroad-strike-modern-police/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#1409): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/1409 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/76778482/21656 -=-=-

Re: [marxmail] Abraham’s exile: the sad story of a young Marxist historian.

2020-09-11 Thread trusscott.foundation via groups.io
Quote: ' There are three comprehensive accounts of the Abraham affair: a six-column article in the NYT , https://www.nytimes.com/1984/12/23/arts/a-quarrel-over-weimar-book.html ( https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F1984%2F12%2F23%2Farts%2Fa-quarrel-over-weimar-book.htm

[marxmail] Strategic implications of the reductionism debates – Tempest

2020-09-11 Thread Louis Proyect
Interview with Asad Haider – part 2 (reductionism refers to class/race) https://www.tempestmag.org/2020/09/strategic-implications-of-the-reductionism-debates/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#1407): https://groups.io/g/ma

Re: [marxmail] Roaming Charges: Under Furious Skies - CounterPunch.org

2020-09-11 Thread Carol Stokes
Roaming Charges is my absolutely favorite thing to read on CounterPunch. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#1406): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/1406 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/76777488/21656 -=-=-

[marxmail] Identitarianism created Jessica Krug

2020-09-11 Thread Carol Stokes
I have a different take than Jesse Singal. As transracialism gains acceptance, Rachel Dolezal's reputation will turn around. She may be president one day! https://www.rocanews.com/blog-posts/identitarianism-created-jessica-krug -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages se

[marxmail] Hidden in Plain Sight: Racism, White Supremacy, and Far-Right Militancy in Law Enforcement | Brennan Center for Justice

2020-09-11 Thread Louis Proyect
Written by a former FBI agent. https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/hidden-plain-sight-racism-white-supremacy-and-far-right-militancy-law -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#1404): https://groups.io/g/marx

[marxmail] Roaming Charges: Under Furious Skies - CounterPunch.org

2020-09-11 Thread Louis Proyect
Jeffrey St. Clair reports on the Oregon fires. https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/09/11/roaming-charges-under-furious-skies/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#1403): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/1403 Mute This Topic

[marxmail] Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler bans use of CS tear gas in ongoing protests

2020-09-11 Thread Inez Jenkins
I guess they're counting on the smoke to do the job for them. https://www.opb.org/article/2020/09/10/portland-mayor-ted-wheeler-bans-use-of-tear-gas-in-ongoing-protests/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#1402): https://group

Re: [marxmail] Comanches and slavery

2020-09-11 Thread Louis Proyect
On 9/11/20 1:21 AM, Adam R. Wilson via groups.io wrote: What's the best way to contact you directly? Comrades can always reach me at l...@panix.com. I'm assuming you'd like a copy. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#1401):