Re: [marxmail] Israel crosses into Lebanon

One other query: Most nowadays on the broad left (terminology is odd I agree in advance - but her meant to imply as going beyond the Marxist-Leninists) agree to criticise any policy of individual assassination/terror. One argument to support that view, is that capital is multi-hydra headed - chop

Re: [marxmail] Israel crosses into Lebanon

David: Agree that those questions are pertinent. I have been more interested in what this tell us about the 'end-game' for the Israeli state and the USA? The USA now has the Western Mediterranean, the entire Arabic Mediterranean, still a blip for Yemen (Cue more Israeli-USA delivered bombs) and

Re: [marxmail] Another Respected Figure on The Left Discredits Himself for Kamala

On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 09:39 PM, wrote: > > All I want to know is how  you can proclaim a fidelity to historical > materialism at the same time as you believe socialism is dead. It shouldn't be necessary to remind you that it's a method of analysis not a dogma and as such you can come to a co

Re: [marxmail] Another Respected Figure on The Left Discredits Himself for Kamala

All I want to know is how  you can proclaim a fidelity to historical materialism at the same time as you believe socialism is dead. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#32639): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/32639 Mute Th

Re: [marxmail] thank you, ultra left sectarians

John, There is no any real strugle in the US that will help workers. Most workers prefer Trump. What Harris will do will be done also by Trump probably more of that. drill baybe drill. But no chance for some New Green Deal with Trump. I am not encouraging anyone. What we are  discussing here is i

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[marxmail] FW: [yup4p] Fwd: IMMEDIATE RELEASE: York University Faculty Release Report on Challenges Faced by Palestine Solidarity Supporters on Campus

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Re: [marxmail] Another Respected Figure on The Left Discredits Himself for Kamala

Comrade Schanoes, I’ll confess to anything rather than having to re-litigate those lengthy eye-glazing exchanges we had last year about Syriza, Podemos, the MIR, POUM, Popular Frontism, Corbyn, Sanders, etc. The moderators have never forgiven me for having risen to the bait. I objected to... wh

Re: [marxmail] thank you, ultra left sectarians

Harris will increase military spending, one of the biggest greenhouse emitters. She'll keep shipping bombs to Israel, a massive catastrophe for the world but also for the climate. She'll step up fracking, ecologically catastrophic. The changes the planet and our class needs will not be assisted by

Re: [marxmail] thank you, ultra left sectarians

Gojko's ignorance of the US bourgeoisie's actions since 1973 is painfully clear to the most casual observer. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#32633): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/32633 Mute This Topic: https://group

Re: [marxmail] Another Respected Figure on The Left Discredits Himself for Kamala

Marv, We resolved the issue of your support for Syriza about a year ago when I reproduced a 2015 post of yours.  I'm happy to post it again if you like.   You can go on and on about Drachma instead of euro, but to my recollection, you never agreed with the calls for a no-confidence    vote agai

Re: [marxmail] thank you, ultra left sectarians

John the alternative now is Trump. To be sincere, usually, I do not care who will be elected as president of the US, Democrat or Republican. Both parties are controlled by corporations and big-money donors and I am not living in the US. But sometimes there is a difference between candidates that

[marxmail] Hezbollah Misjudged Israel’s Weakness and Iran’s Might - The Wall Street Journal.

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[marxmail] Israel crosses into Lebanon

Now that Israel has decapitated much of the Hezbollah leadership, destroyed its ability to communicate and wipped out half the Party of God's missile supply (no one knows how much damage the IDF did do to all of this but clearly it was substantial) they have sent tanks and IFVs (Infantry Fightin

Re: [marxmail] thank you, ultra left sectarians

Gojko wrote: Somehow you omitted "We should vote for her because the alternative is far worse". I deliberately omitted that because I was focusing on just what a godawful candidate the left is being knowingly exhorted to vote for, not the "reasons" for that exhortation. "The alternative is far wor

Re: [marxmail] Another Respected Figure on The Left Discredits Himself for Kamala

On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 04:48 PM, wrote: > > Was it "historical materialism" that determined your support for Syriza? I was from the beginning for Syriza to default on its debt and to leave the eurozone, and then disgusted by Tsipras' capitulation to the troika that summer after the popular r

Re: [marxmail] thank you, ultra left sectarians

Artesian, you should say Gojko posted this steaming pile of bullshit written by some Oakland socialist. (I am not sure who wrote that.) But I could be as arrogant as you to say that your comment " Trump is ultimate realization of the bourgeoisie's offensive against wages, unions, welfare, health

Re: [marxmail] thank you, ultra left sectarians

On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 06:51 AM, gojko rakic wrote: > > " *Trump’s presidency was qualitatively different from any previous > Republican, and today he is a real threat to democratic rights in America > in a way that no Republican candidate has been before. The differences > between the Trump can

Re: [marxmail] thank you, ultra left sectarians

Waiting for Dr. Strangelove or How I learned to stop worrying and love the Democrats: "Yet, though she is a mainstream Democrat with all that implies — a supporter of American capitalism and imperialism, a person dependent on the banks and corporations, one who will become commander in chief of

Re: [marxmail] Another Respected Figure on The Left Discredits Himself for Kamala

On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 04:02 PM, Marv Gandall wrote: > > The reason I'm on the list is because I look at past and present through > an historical materialist lens, as do many others on the list who have > shared many of the same political experiences.  Examining social reality > doesn't always l

Re: [marxmail] thank you, ultra left sectarians

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[marxmail] “Israel’s Barbaric Glee over Nasrallah’s Assassination Is a New Low for Israeli Society”

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Re: [marxmail] Another Respected Figure on The Left Discredits Himself for Kamala

Receiving anything that disagrees with you as "testiness" is a hoot. Especially after one of your cothinkers on this question posts just to say to he doesn't have to post because those who disagree with him are irrelevant and powerless. The maximize the use of a list like this involves weighing a

Re: [marxmail] thank you, ultra left sectarians

And this election's award for arrogance goes to . . . . On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 2:56 PM gojko rakic via groups.io wrote: > Artesian, > > I said at the beginning "Here are some arguments from someone more > eloquent than me." > > I could leave just links to those articles but I wanted to highligh

Re: [marxmail] Another Respected Figure on The Left Discredits Himself for Kamala

The reason I'm on the list is because I look at past and present through an historical materialist lens, as do many others on the list who have shared many of the same political experiences.  Examining social reality doesn't always lead to uniform and benign conclusions.The exchanges challenge m

Re: [marxmail] thank you, ultra left sectarians

Artesian, I said at the beginning " Here are some arguments from someone more eloquent than me." I could leave just links to those articles but I wanted to highlight the main arguments there and quote a few paragraphs from those articles. You should read those articles. https://againstthecurre

[marxmail] ‘Master of Resistance’ – Life and Legacy of Hassan Nasrallah

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Re: [marxmail] Another Respected Figure on The Left Discredits Himself for Kamala

I dont know why anyone who thinks the Marxist Left has accomplishes so little and can accomplish so little would be on a Marxist list. And.I wouldn't begin to spend time unraveling you reductionist oversimplification of consciousness. On Mon, Sep 30, 2024, 1:48 PM Marv Gandall via groups.io wrote

Re: [marxmail] Another Respected Figure on The Left Discredits Himself for Kamala

It is more fundamental, Mark. But how do you propose we "reconstruct" the movement? I've heard that tune played and replayed at every gathering of the Marxist left I've attended over the past half century with none of the competing ideas on offer having been tested or, if they were tested, havin

Re: [marxmail] Another Respected Figure on The Left Discredits Himself for Kamala

The well being of the movement has to be our primary consideration. Its reconstruction and cultivation is essential if anything positive will happen. Without it, we are at the mercy of the boss class and its politicians. There may be different ways of seeing how that applies in an election. But i

Re: [marxmail] Another Respected Figure on The Left Discredits Himself for Kamala

If you reread my comment, Artesian, you will see that I don't believe there is a formula/blueprint/cookbook which can spark a revival of the mass movement. The reverse is true - that “unless and until” there is a revival of working class political consciousness and combativity, it doesn’t much m

Re: [marxmail] thank you, ultra left sectarians

Gojko is not making an argument.  He is once again citing the assertions of others that assume what must be proven.  To paraphrase esteemed moderator --the value of Gojko's statements is a big fat zero. Everything you need to know about that zero is summed up by this: "Yet, though she is a main

Re: [marxmail] Another Respected Figure on The Left Discredits Himself for Kamala

So it's not a strategy, not a program, so how does it lead to a "mass movement"--history of the 20th and 21st century shows us that "progressive mass movements" are initiated outside the Democratic Party and then the party becomes their burial ground. Exactly what are the  issues that can be wo

Re: [marxmail] Another Respected Figure on The Left Discredits Himself for Kamala

On Sun, Sep 29, 2024 at 01:17 PM, wrote: > > the other is "strategic"-expressed most clearly by MG with his "socialism > is dead" evaluation of the current situation... Those with the "strategic" > take or the programmatic one that says working within the Democratic Party > is the only viable pa

[marxmail] The War on Lebanon Following the Killing of Nasrallah

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Re: [marxmail] thank you, ultra left sectarians

John E, quotes probably John R   "...she is a mainstream Democrat with all that implies..." yet all that that implies has not been identified by John R and the State Department socialists who think they are somehow leading the workers and left into building  a new anti-fascist front.   Marxists

Re: [marxmail] thank you, ultra left sectarians

John, Somehow you omitted "We should vote for her because the alternative is far worse". I think it is clear no leftist is voting for Harris because of what she represents and  we think that leftists should vote in such a way that Trump should not be elected because his election represents a bi

Re: [marxmail] thank you, ultra left sectarians

See, what I just can't get my head around is exactly this: Vote Harris, "she is a mainstream Democrat with all that implies — a supporter of American capitalism and imperialism, a person dependent on the banks and corporations, one who will become commander in chief of the world’s largest and stil