Re: [MBZ] rebuilding a W123 front caliper..

2006-08-25 Thread LarryT
Hi Kevin, Yes, Haynes covers it. As far as using a air compressor - those saying it's dangerous are not wrong! I used air to get the pistons from my 911 calipers - luckily I kept a piece of 2x4 in the caliper so the piston would hit the wood instead of the metal caliper - but the surprising

Re: [MBZ] Automotive clay

2006-08-25 Thread Mitch Haley
andrew strasfogel wrote: > > Question: How much is TOO much to repair all the rust? Bad areas are the > holey floors, right rear corner, front right jack point area, and left PS > rear door. I could spend over $3k to do it all, or about $1,200 to take > care of the areas that really need fixing

Re: [MBZ] Entirely OT

2006-08-25 Thread David Brodbeck
Rich Thomas wrote: > I did that and it did not work as expected. I did it by the > instructions, but it did not stick well. > Maybe it's like duct tape, good for everything but its intended purpose. Duct tape has a lot of great uses, but when used to seal ducts it inevitably dries out and fa

Re: [MBZ] Slightly OT Cars in WA

2006-08-25 Thread David Brodbeck
Zoltan Finks wrote: > Seriously though, driving around checking out the area, I experienced > something that I have never experienced before (since I started paying > attention): I was not getting tailgaited too often. I mean, drivers seemed > to actually be acting in a reasonable fashion. This is

Re: [MBZ] Entirely OT

2006-08-25 Thread Rich Thomas
I did that and it did not work as expected. I did it by the instructions, but it did not stick well. --R Jim Cathey wrote: Taking a break from the cars today. I actually put some Shoe Goo on _shoes_, if you can imagine such a thing! -- Jim

[MBZ] Entirely OT

2006-08-25 Thread Jim Cathey
Taking a break from the cars today. I actually put some Shoe Goo on _shoes_, if you can imagine such a thing! -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] rebuilding a W123 front caliper..

2006-08-25 Thread Jim Cathey
wondering if there is a procedure for it in the shop manuals (I'm doubting it since they expect the mechanics using those manuals are experienced) or maybe in the Haynes manual. I'm great a disassembly, but a procedure is always welcome to cover the things that experience teaches. My descripti

Re: [MBZ] Slightly OT Cars in WA

2006-08-25 Thread Zeitgeist
Around here when I was growing up, we called those sorts of cars, a "Fort Lewis special" (local Army base). Now the Army guys all seem to drive either stoopid jacked-up pickup trucks or riced-out junkers. I hate driving through there on I-5. On 8/25/06, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Slightly OT Cars in WA

2006-08-25 Thread Ed Booher
On 8/25/06, Zeitgeist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You'll be sorry...the Puget Sound suburbs (especially the Eastside) are populated by Jerks, with a capital J. They all drive absurdly overblown fullsize SUVs, and are required by law to multi-task while driving. Assholes with a capital A. Muhaha

Re: [MBZ] Slightly OT Cars in WA

2006-08-25 Thread Zoltan Finks
I'm keeping in mind the burning building scenario as I read that. Seriously though, driving around checking out the area, I experienced something that I have never experienced before (since I started paying attention): I was not getting tailgaited too often. I mean, drivers seemed to actually be

Re: [MBZ] Slightly OT Cars in WA

2006-08-25 Thread Zeitgeist
You'll be sorry...the Puget Sound suburbs (especially the Eastside) are populated by Jerks, with a capital J. They all drive absurdly overblown fullsize SUVs, and are required by law to multi-task while driving. Assholes with a capital A. Subaru wagons and Honda Accord/Civics are the appliances

[MBZ] Slightly OT Cars in WA

2006-08-25 Thread Zoltan Finks
Some of y'all may find this as boring as my wife finds it. If so, click it away. We flew out to the Seattle area for an interview, and the most important analysis I did was observing what type of cars were there. This is my barometer of the type of people in an area. As a quick aside: Ever notic

Re: [MBZ] rebuilding a W123 front caliper..

2006-08-25 Thread Kevin J. Slater
Jim and Sunil, thanks for the responses. Since I don't have experience doing this, I'm wondering if there is a procedure for it in the shop manuals (I'm doubting it since they expect the mechanics using those manuals are experienced) or maybe in the Haynes manual. I'm great a disassembly, but a pr

Re: [MBZ] w116 euros

2006-08-25 Thread Gary Thompson
Andrew, I've always carried some cash, and used credit cards for everything I could. On my last trip to Europe, I found a credit card that didn't surcharge (CapitolOne). Used it for the trip, and then tossed it. Turned out to be a great deal, and I didn't have to worry about that card number get

Re: [MBZ] Automotive clay

2006-08-25 Thread andrew strasfogel
The estimate to resolve ALL the rust is approx. $3,200. I probably should have asked "what's a 278k mile well-maintained 300TD with a clean interior but some chassis rust worth in today's market?" The only perforation is in the PS floor area. On 8/25/06, Ed Booher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Automotive clay

2006-08-25 Thread LarryT
You wrote> Hi Andrew, Sadly, you're probably only seeing a small part of the rust. For example, the jack point - it alone has the potential to lead to a lot of rust and weakened metal in the rocker panels - which is pretty typical. The floors can be patched using me

[MBZ] A Number to Call to Find Bio

2006-08-25 Thread Bob Rentfro
I got this message from National Biodiesel Board today: "As truckers and other motorists increasingly demand homegrown biodiesel, a new toll-free number will help them find retail availability anywhere in the United States. Today, at the Great American Trucking Show (GATS), the National Biodies

Re: [MBZ] Paint cleaning clay

2006-08-25 Thread Bob Rentfro
Will Holly come and clay my cars? Bob Rentfro - Original Message - From: "LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 8:54 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Paint cleaning clay Hi Andrew, Here ya go - http://premiumautocare.stores.yahoo.net/cleanin

Re: [MBZ] Automotive clay

2006-08-25 Thread Ed Booher
On 8/25/06, Ed Booher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: already know this car, meaning you know the head gasket is a little weak, or the suspension needs replacing, etc and you don't have any troubles in store as in the $7K replacement. I apologize, I meant you don't have any "surprises" in store. Rem

Re: [MBZ] Automotive clay

2006-08-25 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Andrew, If you get enough "joy" from a drive, if your pockets are deep enough, and IF you plan to keep the car - then the "TOO much" consideration is irrelevant. However, if you plan to sell the car, then you have already made the decision and any cost is "TOO much". Take care, Chuck P

Re: [MBZ] Automotive clay

2006-08-25 Thread Ed Booher
On 8/25/06, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Question: How much is TOO much to repair all the rust? Bad areas are the holey floors, right rear corner, front right jack point area, and left PS rear door. I could spend over $3k to do it all, or about $1,200 to take care of the areas

Re: [MBZ] Paint cleaning clay

2006-08-25 Thread LarryT
Hi Andrew, Here ya go - http://premiumautocare.stores.yahoo.net/cleaning-your-car-s-paint-with-detailing-clay.html Sent a copy direct as I don't know if the server will strip the link - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http:

Re: [MBZ] Paint cleaning clay

2006-08-25 Thread LarryT
Hi Andrew, They suggest a lubricant such as Maquires Quick Clean (or something like that) which is one of those in-between sprays used to clean a piece of the car. It's very important to use such a lubriucant - also, never allow the clay to hit the ground - it'll pick up al kinds of crap that

Re: [MBZ] Automotive clay

2006-08-25 Thread andrew strasfogel
Let's change the subject. Took my 1983 300TD with rust holes in the floor and other areas to the body shop that LT Don recommended in Baileys Crossroads, VA. The car has 278K miles and is mechanically sound and well-maintained, and is a joy to drive. Question: How much is TOO much to repair a

Re: [MBZ] Automotive clay

2006-08-25 Thread Zeitgeist
Actually, you were just along for the ride. It's a Warshingtonian thing. Redghost = Clay = Automotive Clay = Shameless Clay On 8/25/06, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I did realize I was being made the subject of some elaborate in-joke. All I wanted to know is how to apply the

Re: [MBZ] Automotive clay

2006-08-25 Thread Ed Booher
On 8/25/06, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I did realize I was being made the subject of some elaborate in-joke. All I wanted to know is how to apply the clay since it came without instructions. It isn't really that "in" a joke. I mean, you're here, so you're "in" -- Knowledge i

Re: [MBZ] Vandalism

2006-08-25 Thread Jim Cathey
I now think all the messing with the door panels was a fairly knowledgeable attempt to get into the trunk. Perhaps these jerks were just in training so that they know how to do maximal damage in minimal time at the U-Pull? -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Paint cleaning clay

2006-08-25 Thread Rich Thomas
Clay = abrasive. It might be very very mild with very small particles but it is still an abrasive; otherwise, how would it work and why would it be "clay." You can polish glass or metal or paint to an extremely high shine with abrasive compunds -- just a matter of how fine it is. --R [EMAI

Re: [MBZ] Paint cleaning clay

2006-08-25 Thread andrew strasfogel
What sort of lubricant? Mineral oil? WD 40? On 8/25/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: <> Where does this info come from? Paint cleaning clay is not an abrasive and does not take off oxidation. It's used to remove tree sap, overspray, stuff from the sky that sticks to the pain

Re: [MBZ] Automotive clay

2006-08-25 Thread andrew strasfogel
I did realize I was being made the subject of some elaborate in-joke. All I wanted to know is how to apply the clay since it came without instructions. On 8/25/06, Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andrew, The train left the main station a while ago on this thread! Chuck On Aug 2

Re: [MBZ] Vandalism

2006-08-25 Thread Mitch Haley
David Brodbeck wrote: > I had a '95 Ford Police Interceptor egged one night while it was parked > on the street. I have no idea why. Maybe someone thought they were > sticking it to The Man. A friend had his Horizon egged in front of his house that way. I just think they egged it because it was

Re: [MBZ] Vandalism

2006-08-25 Thread Mitch Haley
David Brodbeck wrote: > > > I take it this car doesn't have central locking? I'm not sure. They did something inside the car, all the lock buttons feel disconnected and the door panels are loose. The trunk lock button has fallen into the trunk. I had disconnected the battery and emptied the vac

Re: [MBZ] G-Series?

2006-08-25 Thread mykd1
He's a clueless sleazebag, which I think applies to at least half of these idiots on ebay trying to sell something with a made up story Harry 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Bob Rentfro <[EMAIL PRO

Re: [MBZ] 124 Trans diagnosis

2006-08-25 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Ahhh you stick your tongue in to test the spark, personally I use another part of the male anatomy to test for spark. But then again I ride Kangaroos and Crocodiles bareback. - Original Message - From: "David Brodbeck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, A

Re: [MBZ] Vandalism

2006-08-25 Thread David Brodbeck
Jim Cathey wrote: > There's a tiny little thing I like to call the "fuel tank" that's > in the way, besides the solid rear wall of the cabin. It ain't built > that way anyhow. > Hmm, good point. I was thinking there was an area above the fuel tank that passed all the way through, but I was thi

Re: [MBZ] this auction gives me a funny feeling

2006-08-25 Thread Desert Rat
Or, how about "fly in and drive this Cadillac home"! On 8/24/06, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > did it say that? I must have missed it. It has a bad tranny as well. And that business with the headlights bugs me a bit, too. It _did_ look like a nice enough car to be a decent fixer-up

Re: [MBZ] Paint cleaning clay

2006-08-25 Thread RELNGSON
<> Where does this info come from? Paint cleaning clay is not an abrasive and does not take off oxidation. It's used to remove tree sap, overspray, stuff from the sky that sticks to the paint and so on. It looks like play-dough. It is used with a lubricant so it doesn't stick to you or your p

Re: [MBZ] 190D crank position sensor?

2006-08-25 Thread Jim Cathey
sensor end almost about like the speedo sensor. Never really heard of a crank position sensor on these, where does this thing mount if there is 'cause they don't have one. There's no index mark for TDC #1, it's purely a tach sensor. People probably just call it one because all modern cars ha

Re: [MBZ] Vandalism

2006-08-25 Thread Jim Cathey
Have you considered Goop instead of CA glue? PMMA (poly-methyl-methacrylate, my materials science prof's favorite plastic) is one of the things that CA glue works _very_ well on. Perhaps because they're both acrylics? And it makes less of a mess to clean up. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] 300SDL ACC - not cold

2006-08-25 Thread Jim Cathey
I'm convinced! Now - where did I leave the soldapult? Reheating never did me any good. I always add a dab of new solder, and it works very well unless there's a bad oxidation problem. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Automotive clay

2006-08-25 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Andrew, The train left the main station a while ago on this thread! Chuck On Aug 24, 2006, at 7:33 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: WTF? On 8/24/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: yep Zeitgeist wrote: uh huh. On 8/24/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: huh? andre

Re: [MBZ] this auction gives me a funny feeling

2006-08-25 Thread Jim Cathey
did it say that? I must have missed it. It has a bad tranny as well. And that business with the headlights bugs me a bit, too. It _did_ look like a nice enough car to be a decent fixer-upper. But then, price is everything on those. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Vandalism

2006-08-25 Thread Jim Cathey
A trick on some VWs is to remove the rear seatback, then use a long string of socket extensions to remove the latch striker bolts. I don't think the Mercedes latch striker can be removed that way, though. There's a tiny little thing I like to call the "fuel tank" that's in the way, besides the s

Re: [MBZ] 124 Trans diagnosis

2006-08-25 Thread Jim Cathey
expansion tank cap and dipping in a finger, and check for spark by sticking their tongue into the end of a spark plug lead. You call that macho? Hurts my back to bend over that far, I'd suggest an appendage located closer to the engine. :-) -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Vandalism

2006-08-25 Thread Bob Rentfro
David shared: "I had a '95 Ford Police Interceptor egged one night while it was parked on the street. I have no idea why. Maybe someone thought they were sticking it to The Man." Maybe it was just herd of chickens flying over and they became scared by something Bob Rentfro

Re: [MBZ] G-Series?

2006-08-25 Thread Bob Rentfro
Mike typed: "The owner of the car said, in response to me asking what a G-Series was and telling him it looked like a normal 280 Se and thus isn't worth near his reserve, said the following: "As for as I know but don't quote me on this G-series is know as one of last handmade German cars of this

Re: [MBZ] Vandalism

2006-08-25 Thread David Brodbeck
Zeitgeist wrote: > Way back, I Earl Scheib-ed a '69 VW Squareback, and sure enough, one week > later it got egged. Peeled that cheap-ass paint clean off, like it never > was there in the first place. People are weird. > I had a '95 Ford Police Interceptor egged one night while it was parked o

Re: [MBZ] 124 Trans diagnosis

2006-08-25 Thread David Brodbeck
Hendrik Riessen wrote: > Nah, the really macho amongst us use their mouth to clean the > dipstickand no spitting is not allowed. > Also allows us to taste the condition of the fluid. > They also check the accuracy of the temperature gauge by removing the expansion tank cap and dipp

Re: [MBZ] Vandalism

2006-08-25 Thread David Brodbeck
Mitch Haley wrote: > That's probably the source of the 1" hole my 190Dt recently grew in the > windshield. They also punched the trunk lock, but apparently never got it > open. > I'm not sure how I'm going to get it open now. I take it this car doesn't have central locking? A trick on some VWs i

Re: [MBZ] 190D crank position sensor?

2006-08-25 Thread Marshall Booth
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Just got in an 84 190D. Guy said they stole the crank position sensor off it, and included a new (well used) one. It has a cable, with the sensor end almost about like the speedo sensor. Never really heard of a crank position sensor on these, where does this thing mo

Re: [MBZ] G-Series?

2006-08-25 Thread mykd1
idiot? moi ? Harry 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Michael Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 19:06:20 -0400 Subject: Re: [MBZ] G-Series? The owner of

Re: [MBZ] Automotive clay

2006-08-25 Thread Rich Thomas
They are busting on you based on some pun or something. Anyway, that clay stuff is just a mild abrasive that can polish up your paint to get the oxidation and such off. I guess it would remove paint spray too, but you better be careful. The sell it at the auto parts store in the wax shelf, M

Re: [MBZ] Automotive clay

2006-08-25 Thread andrew strasfogel
WTF? On 8/24/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: yep Zeitgeist wrote: > uh huh. > > On 8/24/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>huh? >> >>andrew strasfogel wrote: >> >>Huh? >> > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL

Re: [MBZ] 190D crank position sensor?

2006-08-25 Thread OK Don
I might, depending on condition, operation, etc. -- On 8/24/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, I have 2 of them now. You got something you want to trade? I might, depending on condition, operation, etc. -- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "The Americans will always do the r

[MBZ] '82 300 CD excessive oil usage-update

2006-08-25 Thread Luther Gulseth
Remember this one? 1qt oil burned every 250-300 miles. Compression is all 320-380, injectors are clean and good spray. Runs like a scared cat (right Kaleb?). Very minimal drops of oil (2-5 during 9 hours at work) under car each day and no spray on the bottom or back of the car like my SD.

Re: [MBZ] this auction gives me a funny feeling

2006-08-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
did it say that? I must have missed it. It has a bad tranny as well. OK Don wrote: "I popped the hood and opened the radiator cap, and to my surprise a huge burst of pressure came out." Sounds like a cracked 603 head ? On 8/24/06, Michael Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why? -- Kal

Re: [MBZ] this auction gives me a funny feeling

2006-08-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Not sure why. Michael Hall wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300-SDL-6cyl-1987-300SDL-Turbo-Diesel-Beautiful-Triple-Black-w-books_W0QQitemZ200020613591QQihZ010QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Why? __

Re: [MBZ] 190D crank position sensor?

2006-08-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well, I have 2 of them now. You got something you want to trade? OK Don wrote: So, are you going to have a 201 Diesel to trade? Just got in an 84 190D. So, are you going to have a 201 Diesel to trade? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420S

Re: [MBZ] this auction gives me a funny feeling

2006-08-25 Thread Michael Hall
OK Don wrote: "I popped the hood and opened the radiator cap, and to my surprise a huge burst of pressure came out." Sounds like a cracked 603 head ? On 8/24/06, Michael Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why? Oh didn't read that part - just skimmed the ad. The system should hold pres

Re: [MBZ] this auction gives me a funny feeling

2006-08-25 Thread OK Don
"I popped the hood and opened the radiator cap, and to my surprise a huge burst of pressure came out." Sounds like a cracked 603 head ? On 8/24/06, Michael Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhau

Re: [MBZ] 1985 500sel $500

2006-08-25 Thread Sunil Hari
right On 8/24/06, Ed Booher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: But it's not currently running, right? So it has to be drug wherever it's going. On 8/24/06, Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > columbus, OH near the airport. > > On 8/24/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > where

Re: [MBZ] this auction gives me a funny feeling

2006-08-25 Thread Michael Hall
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300-SDL-6cyl-1987-300SDL-Turbo-Diesel-Beautiful-Triple-Black-w-books_W0QQitemZ200020613591QQihZ010QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Why?

Re: [MBZ] 190D crank position sensor?

2006-08-25 Thread OK Don
So, are you going to have a 201 Diesel to trade? > >>Just got in an 84 190D. So, are you going to have a 201 Diesel to trade? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives." Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL

Re: [MBZ] Vandalism

2006-08-25 Thread Harry Watkins
JC Whitney sells a kit that will make it look like the real thing. It has the diamond patterns plus yellow and red tape. This made me remember that I repaired one and never followed up with a replacement. Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans -

[MBZ] this auction gives me a funny feeling

2006-08-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300-SDL-6cyl-1987-300SDL-Turbo-Diesel-Beautiful-Triple-Black-w-books_W0QQitemZ200020613591QQihZ010QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Re: [MBZ] 300SDL ACC - not cold

2006-08-25 Thread OK Don
I'm convinced! Now - where did I leave the soldapult? I have a LOT of pots and sliders that need lubricating after another good cleaning - I ordered the 100% deoxit and some spray lube. We'll seewhat I end up with. Thanks! On 8/24/06, John W. Reames III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 23 Aug

Re: [MBZ] 190D crank position sensor?

2006-08-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Dont know, have not tried to start it yet. Kevin wrote: On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 06:34:51PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Just got in an 84 190D. Guy said they stole the crank position sensor off it, and included a new (well used) one. It has a cable, with the sensor end almost about like

Re: [MBZ] 190D crank position sensor?

2006-08-25 Thread Kevin
On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 06:34:51PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > Just got in an 84 190D. Guy said they stole the crank position sensor > off it, and included a new (well used) one. It has a cable, with the > sensor end almost about like the speedo sensor. Never really heard of a > crank p