Re: [MBZ] anyone know anything about Dodge Intrepids?

2008-04-15 Thread mykd1
My parents bought a 95 with the 3.3 and had zero problems with it. Good running car and the mileage wasn't bad either. Not sure about the newer 2.7's or the 3.2. Harry 69 280 SEL 72 350SL ? 04 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata ? -Original Message- From: Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: [MBZ] anyone know anything about Dodge Intrepids?

2008-04-15 Thread mykd1
I'd be cautious with the Taurus because of the tranny problems and the Olds wasn't much better with their electrical system. Harry 69 280 SEL 72 350SL ? 04 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata ? -Original Message- From: Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mercedes Discussion List S

Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes

2008-04-15 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Who would you rather have spending money to keep the country growing, someone who made a fortune by working hard and smart or a politician/bureaucrat who talks nice or learnt his/her management skills from a course. The old saying is that the rich are rich because they are best equipped to hand

Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes

2008-04-15 Thread Hendrik & Fay
The way it works is that the rich invest their money to make more money and provide jobs for the people, what annoys me is when they use tax havens to waste their money. This is something that needs to be addressed, nothing wrong with giving someone a tax break if it goes back into the economy b

Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes

2008-04-15 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Yeah well I guess in private business if income is reduced then expenditure gets tightened. In government if income is reduced the amount of income is raised. Wouldn't it be nice to be able to just say I want an extra 2 bucks an hour to offset the rise in living costs and guess what boss man the

Re: [MBZ] question for haley and all the anti government nut jobs

2008-04-15 Thread Mitch Haley
Alex Chamberlain wrote: > podunk federal government office in a sleepy suburb was guarded by not > just one but two of Cheney's new storm troopers---fresh recruits in > blue uniforms with a Homeland Security patch on one shoulder and a > Wackenhut patch on the other, and MP5 submachine guns slung o

Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes

2008-04-15 Thread Tom Hargrave
80% of the tax burden is on the working class. Why? Because so much of our population is working class. If the government were to double the taxes on the rich, the impact would be negligible. But make a huge difference in working class taxes, drop them by 20% for example, and there would be a huge

Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes

2008-04-15 Thread Mitch Haley
Wonko the Sane wrote: > > Not exactly, Donald. Obama's plan would roll back the tax cuts on the > wealthy (Dubya's friends) who pay a much lower percentage than I do as > middle class, and probably, lower middle class, You'd be surprised what the rich people (at least the working rich) pay. I've

Re: [MBZ] ot, cant access network drive

2008-04-15 Thread OK Don
File permissions and share permissions are seperate, and both need to be set. Are you logged onto both machines with the same account/password? On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 10:10 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > its not complex > > > > Wonko the Sane wrote: > > Why are you trying to

Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes

2008-04-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
the slogan of 'hope:' They're going to raise your taxes by thousands >> of dollars per year - and they have the audacity to hope you don't mind." >> >> That was a play on the title of an Obama book. >> >> Here's the rest of the article: >

Re: [MBZ] ot, cant access network drive

2008-04-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
its not complex Wonko the Sane wrote: > Why are you trying to do complex stuff with XP? > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 9:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> Trying to do some updating and stuff to a computer, which is hooked to >> my network here. Everything I want it shared

Re: [MBZ] DIY clearcoat [was: Exhaust question]

2008-04-15 Thread OK Don
My experiments with spraying clear over the peeled areas were rather unsuccessful. On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 8:12 PM, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No idea. I was just planing to spray bomb some clear polyurethane or > whatever I could find on top of the mangy bits after wet sanding

Re: [MBZ] pcAnywhere

2008-04-15 Thread Douglas
ok kaleb I will send it if you want it.. Douglas - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 7:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] pcAnywhere >I will let you know. Let me see if this microsoft or other free stuff

Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes

2008-04-15 Thread Wonko the Sane
tax increases are the fine print > under the slogan of 'hope:' They're going to raise your taxes by thousands > of dollars per year - and they have the audacity to hope you don't mind." > > That was a play on the title of an Obama book. > > Here's the r

Re: [MBZ] ot, cant access network drive

2008-04-15 Thread Wonko the Sane
Why are you trying to do complex stuff with XP? On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 9:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Trying to do some updating and stuff to a computer, which is hooked to > my network here. Everything I want it shared, I have shared folders in > network places, when I

[MBZ] ot, cant access network drive

2008-04-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Trying to do some updating and stuff to a computer, which is hooked to my network here. Everything I want it shared, I have shared folders in network places, when I go to network places and try to navigate to a shared folder, it says access denied. When I try to map a network drive, it maps i

Re: [MBZ] Soy oil price!

2008-04-15 Thread Wonko the Sane
All true. But here, the corporation (most are incorporated) is passed down thru the family. I was office manager for a corporate farm before I took my present "retard" job. EVERYTHING -- almost down to the purchase of toilet paper -- was charged against the corporation and was a tax write-off. Th

Re: [MBZ] pcAnywhere

2008-04-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I will let you know. Let me see if this microsoft or other free stuff will work Douglas wrote: > Kaleb let me know if you want me to look for it.. > > Douglas. > - Original Message - > From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Tuesday, Apri

Re: [MBZ] Soy oil price!

2008-04-15 Thread Mitch Haley
Wonko the Sane wrote: > Ya know, I've lived in Iowa for more than a decade now, and I've yet to meet > a poor farmer. They have bigger houses than I have, drive new cars (some a > Benz), and seem to be well off. Most have assets in seven figures (or > more), clear title. Back in the early 70's (b

Re: [MBZ] Oil Change + tool usage

2008-04-15 Thread Mitch Haley
Hendrik & Fay wrote: > > There are a whole bunch of steps missed out between steps 9 and 10 > because the crescent spanner (aka dammit tool) rounds off drain plug. I was thinking they missed the step where you draw blood unscrewing the punched out oil filter after you get it broke loose and remo

Re: [MBZ] Soy oil price!

2008-04-15 Thread Wonko the Sane
The local farmers (corn and soybeans) are kicking up their heels and have orders in for new pickup trucks. Now, if we could just get the farm subsidies to end, things might get right. But it isn't going to happen, because Iowa Farm Bureau owns some key Iowa Senators who sit in some very important

Re: [MBZ] pcAnywhere

2008-04-15 Thread Allan Streib
"Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I just want to watch what the kids are doing on it from time to > time. I know with pc anywhere you could watch and/or control just > like you were sitting there. You want VNC then. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ ht

Re: [MBZ] Soy oil price!

2008-04-15 Thread Allan Streib
Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Soybeans had been at $4.50 a bushel for decades. It NEEDED to go up, > loads of farmers were growing below the cost of production. How's that, has it been subsidized? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com F

Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes

2008-04-15 Thread Allan Streib
Hendrik & Fay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Populist politics never work in the long term, better off to slash > taxes on fuel efficient cars to reduce demand and get Mom out of the > monster truck. I was thinking that would also make more sense, though there's already some evidence that places t

Re: [MBZ] pcAnywhere

2008-04-15 Thread Douglas
Kaleb let me know if you want me to look for it.. Douglas. - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] pcAnywhere > Oh Im sure it would be just fine. I dont know what version

Re: [MBZ] Soy oil price!

2008-04-15 Thread Tom Hargrave
Raised bed garden. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 8:35 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Soy oil price! i live on granite. goo

Re: [MBZ] Soy oil price!

2008-04-15 Thread Gary Hurst
i live on granite. good for earthquakes, but i'm not sure how well it works for agriculture. On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 9:21 PM, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's time to turn the back yard into a garden > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > www.kegkits.com > 256-656-1924 > > > -Origina

Re: [MBZ] Soy oil price!

2008-04-15 Thread Tom Hargrave
It's time to turn the back yard into a garden Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 8:17 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Soy oil price! Ye

Re: [MBZ] Soy oil price!

2008-04-15 Thread Curt Raymond
Yeahbut my farmer friends are making a swing of it now... Theres even some rumbling about renting out the 12 acres of my farm thats easily accesible... When somebody wants to rent little fields like mine (I've got a 40 acre field but the access stinks) you know they must be making some money...

Re: [MBZ] DIY clearcoat [was: Exhaust question]

2008-04-15 Thread Curt Raymond
No idea. I was just planing to spray bomb some clear polyurethane or whatever I could find on top of the mangy bits after wet sanding the edges. I was considering the spray bomb color idea on the way home and I think instead I might roll on rustoleum instead since I don't have a particularly go

Re: [MBZ] Oil Change + tool usage

2008-04-15 Thread Hendrik & Fay
There are a whole bunch of steps missed out between steps 9 and 10 because the crescent spanner (aka dammit tool) rounds off drain plug. While we are in the shed: Understanding Hand Tools DRILL PRESS: A tall upright machine useful for suddenly snatching flat metalbar stock out of your hands so t

Re: [MBZ] pcAnywhere

2008-04-15 Thread Wonko the Sane
http://www.netnanny.com/ http://www.spectorsoft.com/spysoftware.asp?refer=12209 On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just want to watch what the kids are doing on it from time to time. I > know with pc anywhere you could watch and/or control just like

Re: [MBZ] pcAnywhere

2008-04-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I just want to watch what the kids are doing on it from time to time. I know with pc anywhere you could watch and/or control just like you were sitting there. Tom Hargrave wrote: > Yes, as long as it's also running XP or later. > > If you want to snoop the desktop then you'll need a program li

Re: [MBZ] pcAnywhere

2008-04-15 Thread Tom Hargrave
Yes, as long as it's also running XP or later. If you want to snoop the desktop then you'll need a program like RealVNC. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [MBZ] pcAnywhere

2008-04-15 Thread Wonko the Sane
Turn SSH on at the boxes you want to access, then run Putty. Or, as Tom said, VNC. http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 7:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well I have xp pro running, and knew it had remote desktop, but does it > have th

Re: [MBZ] pcAnywhere

2008-04-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well I have xp pro running, and knew it had remote desktop, but does it have the ability to log onto the other computer and watch what is going on? Tom Hargrave wrote: > There is better software out there and it's all free. If the computers are > XP or later then the come with Remote Desktop, a f

Re: [MBZ] pcAnywhere

2008-04-15 Thread Wonko the Sane
That is built into Linux. :-) I access my server (home) from my office using Putty. On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anybody have a copy of this? I used to have one but lord knows > where it went. Need to be able to monitor and/or control

Re: [MBZ] pcAnywhere

2008-04-15 Thread Tom Hargrave
There is better software out there and it's all free. If the computers are XP or later then the come with Remote Desktop, a full featured remote application. If they are older then download & install a free copy of RealVNC. http://www.realvnc.com/index.html Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 2

Re: [MBZ] pcAnywhere

2008-04-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Oh Im sure it would be just fine. I dont know what version I had before but I can guarantee you that it was at least 10 years old or older. Douglas wrote: > I think I have a copy of like 10 point something around here.. would that > help? > > Douglas? > - Original Message - > From:

[MBZ] Oil Change

2008-04-15 Thread archer
This is from my son who drives a company car and still remembers the greasy auto repair jobs I got him into when he was a kid. Naturally this doesn't apply to any of us on this list (Except for the skinned knuckles and cussing). Gerry > Oil Change instr

Re: [MBZ] pcAnywhere

2008-04-15 Thread Douglas
I think I have a copy of like 10 point something around here.. would that help? Douglas? - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "mercedes Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 5:37 PM Subject: [MBZ] pcAnywhere > Does anybody have a copy of this?

[MBZ] pcAnywhere

2008-04-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Does anybody have a copy of this? I used to have one but lord knows where it went. Need to be able to monitor and/or control other computers on my network. Any other software that will do this? pcAnywhere is the only one I have used before. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 30

Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes

2008-04-15 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Populist politics never work in the long term, better off to slash taxes on fuel efficient cars to reduce demand and get Mom out of the monster truck. Hendrik who likes his 300TE everywhere except at the servo Mitch Haley wrote: > Donald Snook wrote: > >> PITTSBURGH (AP) - John McCain wants

Re: [MBZ] Exhaust question

2008-04-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Now we just need to come up with an exhaust for a 190D, specifically the middle muffler section. Douglas wrote: > I have a '80 240D that was wrecked and has the original exhaust and you can > have it if you want! Its in Northern CA. > > Douglas > - Original Message - > From: "Curt Raym

Re: [MBZ] Exhaust question

2008-04-15 Thread Douglas
I have a '80 240D that was wrecked and has the original exhaust and you can have it if you want! Its in Northern CA. Douglas - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Diesel List" Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 10:35 AM Subject: [MBZ] Exhaust question > '83 240

Re: [MBZ] question for haley and all the anti government nut jobs

2008-04-15 Thread Rich Thomas
I was thumping my gun while toting a bible, not sure if that applies or not. I just had a beer too, goes well with both! --R Zoltan Finks wrote: > I didn't detect any thumping by anyone. > Brian > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:21 PM, John Freer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> OK you guys, f

Re: [MBZ] question for haley and all the anti government nut jobs

2008-04-15 Thread Timothy Robinson
Let's see... VICARIUS FILII DEI (Latin = the Pope) ads up to 666. Many held "the Pope" was the Anti-Christ. Anyone "added up" any of the new candidates yet? Hm... on 4/15/08 15:21 Uhr, John Freer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > OK you guys, fanatic gun owners and bible thumpers.I'm out of he

Re: [MBZ] DIY clearcoat [was: Exhaust question]

2008-04-15 Thread R A Bennell
Any chance of spraying some sort of sealer on first? Something to make the paints more compatible? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 4:28 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] DIY

Re: [MBZ] question for haley and all the anti government nut jobs

2008-04-15 Thread Zoltan Finks
I didn't detect any thumping by anyone. Brian On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:21 PM, John Freer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK you guys, fanatic gun owners and bible thumpers.I'm out of here. > > > > On 4/15/08, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes, this is exactly what I was referring

Re: [MBZ] DIY clearcoat [was: Exhaust question]

2008-04-15 Thread Tom Hargrave
I've tried the spray on clear coat and it has never lasted very long for me. A friend of mine owns a body shop and he explained once that the two paints have to be "compatible" to work. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:

Re: [MBZ] DIY clearcoat [was: Exhaust question]

2008-04-15 Thread Rolf
Perks up ears, say what? Mine is in same boat. Clear coat gone, paint ok! -Rolf Alex Chamberlain wrote: > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Oh and the clearcoat is peeling, now that I've got space I figure to just >> get spraybomb clearcoat >>

[MBZ] My what big wheels you've got

2008-04-15 Thread Mitch Haley
http://kalamazoo.craigslist.org/car/635344383.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailma

Re: [MBZ] anyone know anything about Dodge Intrepids?

2008-04-15 Thread LWB250
True, but the original ones were pretty spartan, which was one of the things I didn't like about them. Not that I wanted a bunch of power accessories, but just the looks (in the interior) were really blah. I wonder what one of the first generation models is going for used these days? Dan --- G

Re: [MBZ] Barack Hussein Exposes

2008-04-15 Thread Mitch Haley
Scott Ritchey wrote: > > >>"The President of These United States does not have the option of refusing > to ever make a decision or take responsibility for anything." > > Why not? Wasn't this what Carter did? Well, he stuck his neck out far enough to boycott an Olympiad and mass pardon several t

Re: [MBZ] Barack Hussein Exposes

2008-04-15 Thread Scott Ritchey
>>"The President of These United States does not have the option of refusing to ever make a decision or take responsibility for anything." Why not? Wasn't this what Carter did? Scott Ritchey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Se

Re: [MBZ] anyone know anything about Dodge Intrepids?

2008-04-15 Thread Gary Hurst
pretty much what i was thinking, but it's looks great in the ad On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > there's a 300TE 4matic in the local craigslist for $2700 > > Almost as much as

Re: [MBZ] Hey Chris - Want TV on your Mac?

2008-04-15 Thread LWB250
Not sure. They keep talking about cable TV in the docs, but in the specs it says "antenna" when referring to "live TV." Check Miglia's Web site and see if it says any more there I'll check it out tonight when I get a chance - it's on my son's iMac. Dan --- Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [MBZ] anyone know anything about Dodge Intrepids?

2008-04-15 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > there's a 300TE 4matic in the local craigslist for $2700 Almost as much as the new transfer case it needs will cost. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list spons

Re: [MBZ] anyone know anything about Dodge Intrepids?

2008-04-15 Thread Gary Hurst
you know what i'd like one with though? a throwback edition! no power steering or brakes. drums in the back with discs up front. On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 4:00 PM, LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I looked at the original ones when they first came > out. I liked them, but was disappointed

Re: [MBZ] anyone know anything about Dodge Intrepids?

2008-04-15 Thread Gary Hurst
there's a 300TE 4matic in the local craigslist for $2700 On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gary wrote: > > "and clapped out at 70k miles perhaps as well, which makes up for a lot of > 4.19 a gallon diesel. > > but i don't know. i'd look at one of those sc

Re: [MBZ] anyone know anything about Dodge Intrepids?

2008-04-15 Thread LWB250
I looked at the original ones when they first came out. I liked them, but was disappointed at the cheesy interior and lousy fit and finish for a Toyota. I still like them, but much less now that it's restyled. This would be a great car for you because of the entry/exit - you don't have to "sit d

Re: [MBZ] anyone know anything about Dodge Intrepids?

2008-04-15 Thread Donald Snook
Gary wrote: "and clapped out at 70k miles perhaps as well, which makes up for a lot of 4.19 a gallon diesel. but i don't know. i'd look at one of those scion vans." I am not looking for a car that I am going to drive for 5 years. I am looking for a fairly presentable 4 door sedan that gets de

Re: [MBZ] anyone know anything about Dodge Intrepids?

2008-04-15 Thread Gary Hurst
i guess. i saw an appliance repair guy with one and had to go over and chat. he said he was using a regular van but got rid of it on account of gas prices. holds almost as much and gets 40 to a gallon. 80k miles on it and no repairs. a car for our age On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Alex Ch

Re: [MBZ] anyone know anything about Dodge Intrepids?

2008-04-15 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > but i don't know. i'd look at one of those scion vans. The xB? The first generation is a terrific package. Tons of space and bolt upright seating, and it gets 35+ MPG on the highway. Destined to be a collectible, I think

Re: [MBZ] question for haley and all the anti government nut jobs

2008-04-15 Thread Gary Hurst
because we are bitter? On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 3:21 PM, John Freer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK you guys, fanatic gun owners and bible thumpers.I'm out of here. > > > > On 4/15/08, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes, this is exactly what I was referring to. > > > > And in an a

Re: [MBZ] question for haley and all the anti government nut jobs

2008-04-15 Thread John Freer
OK you guys, fanatic gun owners and bible thumpers.I'm out of here. On 4/15/08, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, this is exactly what I was referring to. > > And in an attempt to alienate the rest of the list who are not ignoring this > crazy talk: > > I'll go on to say that th

Re: [MBZ] OT: Gartner predicts the collapse of Windows

2008-04-15 Thread John Robbins
Gary Hurst wrote: > i personally believe that the only reason for anyone to be involved with a > microsoft product is if you are one of the legions who make a living at > supporting users of microsoft products. otherwise, it's just plain > stupidity. I use thousands of dollars of software at work

Re: [MBZ] Soy oil price!

2008-04-15 Thread Christopher McCann
My father-in-law is a dairy farmer, so I understand exactly what you are talking about. But why are soybeans up? Why is milk up? My father in law is happy to get more for his milk...but he is also paying way more to produce that milk. Silver cost $12/oz to mine and refine and it sold for about $

Re: [MBZ] OT: Gartner predicts the collapse of Windows

2008-04-15 Thread pm7088
Some of us work at places that are not as enlightened as you are. That being my case, I am forced to use the software of someone else's choice. Often the choice is furthor complicated by other software that is only Windoze compatiable. What's nice is they give me a decent cheque each week

Re: [MBZ] OT: Gartner predicts the collapse of Windows

2008-04-15 Thread Gary Hurst
i personally believe that the only reason for anyone to be involved with a microsoft product is if you are one of the legions who make a living at supporting users of microsoft products. otherwise, it's just plain stupidity. On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: [MBZ] anyone know anything about Dodge Intrepids?

2008-04-15 Thread Ed Booher
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i've got a 240D i can't seem to sell for 600 bucks and my neighbor just > bought a 300sd for 400 bucks, so i image cheap beaters can still be found I'd gladly pay you Tuesday for a ham ... err ... 240D today. -- "I'm a N

Re: [MBZ] OT: Gartner predicts the collapse of Windows

2008-04-15 Thread Loren Faeth
You said it: I will believe it when I see it. I have NO plans to replace XP with any other M$ product. My 03 servers are fine. I love the mac books! Fast, light, sleek, no 2 -3 lb power supply. You get your choice of OSX of XP at boot, or running XP in parallels. With OSX, there is one v

Re: [MBZ] OT: Gartner predicts the collapse of Windows

2008-04-15 Thread Gary Hurst
they are laughing too hard to be listening. personally, i think at this point anyone using any microsoft product deserves whatever they get. On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yawn, they haven't heard of Windows 7. Its in development and is purported > t

Re: [MBZ] anyone know anything about Dodge Intrepids?

2008-04-15 Thread Gary Hurst
and clapped out at 70k miles perhaps as well, which makes up for a lot of 4.19 a gallon diesel. but i don't know. i'd look at one of those scion vans. On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gary wrote: "why not just get a cheap 240D?" > > Because diesel is $4

Re: [MBZ] anyone know anything about Dodge Intrepids?

2008-04-15 Thread Donald Snook
Gary wrote: "why not just get a cheap 240D?" Because diesel is $4.19/gallon and the intrepids get 38-30 mpg on the highway AT much lower fuel cost. I am also considering such cars as an Older Honda Accord, a 2000-2003 Taurus, an Oldsmobile Intrigue, an older Camry, a Pontiac Grand Prix or Bonn

Re: [MBZ] OT: Gartner predicts the collapse of Windows

2008-04-15 Thread Curt Raymond
Yawn, they haven't heard of Windows 7. Its in development and is purported to have a kernal size more like Windows 98 but on the NT type OS standard. Goodbye bloatware. Apparently Microsoft is listening and Vista will be the Windows Me of its generation. I know I know, I'll believe it when I

[MBZ] DIY clearcoat [was: Exhaust question]

2008-04-15 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh and the clearcoat is peeling, now that I've got space I figure to just > get spraybomb clearcoat Does that work? Is there some trick to getting the edges to blend in? I have lots of cars with peeling clearcoat but pe

Re: [MBZ] Soy oil price!

2008-04-15 Thread Curt Raymond
Soybeans had been at $4.50 a bushel for decades. It NEEDED to go up, loads of farmers were growing below the cost of production. -Curt Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 06:50:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Soy oil price! To: Mercedes Discussion List Message

[MBZ] Exhaust question

2008-04-15 Thread Curt Raymond
'83 240D. I've got the chance to buy back my old '83 240D for $300 less than I sold it (Kaleb price at this point). The exhaust I had put on it 5 years ago is now needing replacement. Looks like about $250 from Rusty, but that my question is does that include everything from the header back or

Re: [MBZ] Soy oil price!

2008-04-15 Thread Gary Hurst
the problem i've had with using any kind of vegi is that it acts as a solvent and brings up all the old fillth On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 9:49 AM, wilton strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nearly 3 yrs ago, I used soy oil from Sam's as Diesel fuel for about 4 > months, 'cause it was cheaper th

[MBZ] OT:indiscriminate use of firearms

2008-04-15 Thread Mitch Haley
I must admit that you don't have to be a law enforcement officer to get scared and start shooting all over the place. A store clerk did it in Wisconsin this week. I'm surprised they didn't arrest him for reckless discharge of a firearm or something. Maybe the PD is trying to recruit him instead. h

Re: [MBZ] question for haley and all the anti government nut jobs

2008-04-15 Thread Zoltan Finks
Yes, this is exactly what I was referring to. And in an attempt to alienate the rest of the list who are not ignoring this crazy talk: I'll go on to say that the interpretation of the text that I have been most inclined to believe is that those who have a relationship with Christ will be raptured

Re: [MBZ] question for haley and all the anti government nut jobs

2008-04-15 Thread Gary Hurst
if journalists knew anything about anything they wrote about, it would just kill their whole business On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:52 PM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Many are trained at a place called Front Sight - a *very* good school - > anyone and everyone should attend to learn the t

Re: [MBZ] question for haley and all the anti government nut jobs

2008-04-15 Thread LarryT
Many are trained at a place called Front Sight - a *very* good school - anyone and everyone should attend to learn the truth about guns and gun owners. Front Sight is providing free training to the media so they will learn some facts about guns amd ownership; Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 30

Re: [MBZ] anyone know anything about Dodge Intrepids?

2008-04-15 Thread Gary Hurst
i've got a 240D i can't seem to sell for 600 bucks and my neighbor just bought a 300sd for 400 bucks, so i image cheap beaters can still be found On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Ed Booher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >

Re: [MBZ] anyone know anything about Dodge Intrepids?

2008-04-15 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 8:17 AM, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am considering buying a cheap car that I can pay cash for and drive for a > year. I am making some real estate investments (prices are low - now is the > time to buy) and don't want to take on any debt. Anyway, I saw a

Re: [MBZ] anyone know anything about Dodge Intrepids?

2008-04-15 Thread Ed Booher
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am considering buying a cheap car that I can pay cash for and drive for > a year. I am making some real estate investments (prices are low - now is > the time to buy) and don't want to take on any debt. Anyway, I saw a

Re: [MBZ] anyone know anything about Dodge Intrepids?

2008-04-15 Thread Gary Hurst
they don't enjoy a good reputation, with one engine (2.7L?) particularly troublesome. why not just get a cheap 240D? On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am considering buying a cheap car that I can pay cash for and drive for > a year. I am making some r

[MBZ] anyone know anything about Dodge Intrepids?

2008-04-15 Thread Donald Snook
I am considering buying a cheap car that I can pay cash for and drive for a year. I am making some real estate investments (prices are low - now is the time to buy) and don't want to take on any debt. Anyway, I saw a dodge intrepid the other day and its cheap. Any information or personal exper

Re: [MBZ] Barack Hussein Exposes

2008-04-15 Thread Gary Hurst
yup, set in kansas. said to be the greatest thing for the state since eisenhower and led to the short lived kansas renaissance. a whole lot of hollywood types sure lost their asses on that real estate! On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Rick Knoble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Kansas has not m

Re: [MBZ] Barack Hussein Exposes

2008-04-15 Thread Rick Knoble
> Kansas has not mattered to a presidential race in a LONG TIME. Not since Alf > Landon. Alf. Wasn't that a sitcom on NBC years ago :) Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buy

Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes

2008-04-15 Thread John Robbins
Donald Snook wrote: > He could sell the strategic petroleum reserves. Clinton did that one > year when he wanted to show that he had balanced the budget. He sold > the whole reserve put nearly a billion dollars in the federal coffers > and then started building up the reserve the next day. One b

Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes

2008-04-15 Thread Tom Hargrave
"He could sell the strategic petroleum reserves. Clinton did that one year when he wanted to show that he had balanced the budget. He sold the whole reserve put nearly a billion dollars in the federal coffers and then started building up the reserve the next day." I wish I could do this with my fi

Re: [MBZ] Barack Hussein Exposes

2008-04-15 Thread Donald Snook
Tom H. Wrote: "Obama is a politician. His "roots" are wherever he tells you they are. So are his beliefs." I agree with you on that! Unfortunately, the people of Kansas bought the whole story. He was a masterful politician. I think a lot of had to do with the fact that Kansas has not mattered

Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes

2008-04-15 Thread Donald Snook
Regarding a break in fuel taxes, Tom Hargrove wrote: "So, where should they pull the replacement funds from - Social Security? Or maybe they should not pull from anywhere else and further increase the federal debt? This is just a carefully crafted ploy to grab the public's attention. I seriousl

Re: [MBZ] Barack Hussein Exposes

2008-04-15 Thread Mitch Haley
Gary Hurst wrote: > > i think a do nothing president is appealing. Ron Paul would have been a 'veto everything' president. I like that. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] Barack Hussein Exposes

2008-04-15 Thread Mitch Haley
Gary Hurst wrote: > > i want whichever candidate is for more liberty. what? there isn't one of > those? Richardson, Gravel, Hucksterbee, and Paul are out of contention, and all four got little attention from the media. I can remember trying to discuss Paul with my high school government teacher

Re: [MBZ] Barack Hussein Exposes

2008-04-15 Thread Gary Hurst
i think a do nothing president is appealing. On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tom Hargrave wrote: > > The right answer is to vote based on the candidate's long term history. > > Problem is Obama has no long term public history. Do you really want an > > u

Re: [MBZ] Barack Hussein Exposes

2008-04-15 Thread Gary Hurst
i want whichever candidate is for more liberty. what? there isn't one of those? On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Osama is a politician. His "roots" are wherever he tells you they are. So > are his beliefs. > > My point is that if you plan to vote based

Re: [MBZ] Barack Hussein Exposes

2008-04-15 Thread Mitch Haley
Tom Hargrave wrote: > The right answer is to vote based on the candidate's long term history. > Problem is Obama has no long term public history. Do you really want an > unknown in office? That's his biggest attraction. He took the oath of office in 2003, and missed out on the whole fiasco with t

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