True, and when I had a NA 617 with a very thick layer of junk in the
intake, he had the same advice - not worth the trouble to remove it.
The 606 NA intake has two butterfly valves which are susceptible to
build-up, so keeping it clean is a great idea, in my opinion. May have
to see about an EGR
Did replacing the valve seals reduce oil consumption?
Max
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Progress report on my
I also think that your tank fill procedures contribute to the variation.
I always spend the extra few minutes to top my tank all the way up,
rocking and bouncing the car until no more air comes out and fuel is
most of the way up the neck. I also gauge the slope and try to park
pointing down hill
Yea I might, none that are pulled though.
OK Don wrote:
The '92 300D has started making clacking noises from the rear (left, I
think) in turns, sometimes while accelerating, sometimes while
deccelerating, but mostly in turns. I can't see without jacking it up, but I
don't remember the CV boots
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There's no need to go to all this trouble when filling the tank. Just record
the gallons and the miles and over time you'll have a good average.
There are many things besides fill that can affect fuel economy on a single
tank; it's not really meaningful to look at tank-by-tank MPG.
Allan
On
Nice.
I'm still serching for the green manual '71 220D (my first, my favorite).
Bob R
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 7:02 AM, Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
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How long have you been on the list? There was talk of this a year or more ago.
IIRC Luther said they'd tried it in his truck fleet and while mileage did
improve measurably so did moisture and the problems attendant with it. There
was an interesting bit on Talk of teh Nation - Science Friday on
Please don't use used parts for such a critical application... these ball
sockets are $2 each. Replace all of them while you're at it. Lubricate
with transmission fluid.
Jaime
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:45 PM, Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.netwrote:
On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:11:16 -0800
And I've done that since 1950. ;
Wilton
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Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 11:36 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] WOW! 45 mpg 1984 Mer Benz Diesel - $800
On Mon, 23 Nov
Leather? I'd put money on its being MBtex.
Wilton
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From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
To: mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 9:02 AM
Subject: [MBZ] 1972 Mercedes Benz 220 Diesel - $4500
There is no free electricity coming out of any alternator/generator.
Physics always wins.
Wilton
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From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB 240D Diesel Hydrogen
I didn't know people cared about mpg in the '50's, Wilton.
Bob R
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 8:01 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
And I've done that since 1950. ;
Wilton
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I bet if you gave Wilton 50 cans of Great Stuff, a CLK, and some nice rims he
could build one just like it:
http://englishrussia.com/?p=1949
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This was the latest snake oil super milage device a few years ago --
supposedly the hydrogen/oxygen mix added to the intake air made the
fuel burn cleaner.
The usual crap to sell junk to people who aren't very well educated.
Peter
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Even at $.25/gal, I was still concerned. I used $1.00's worth a week.
Wilton
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Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] WOW! 45 mpg 1984 Mer Benz Diesel -
Man's imagination and ingenuity are unlimited.
Wilton
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Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:16 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Custom CLK
I bet if you gave Wilton 50 cans of Great Stuff, a
I need to find a source for a couple of cheap wireless panel type antennas. I
want to set up a bridge between two of our buildings, as it would be cheaper
than running an ethernet converter over the twisted pair that is currently in
place.
Dan
--- On Mon, 11/23/09, OK Don okd...@gmail.com
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I need to find a source for a couple of cheap wireless panel type antennas.
Like this, or cheaper?
http://www.amazon.com/WIFI-Link-2-4GHz-PANEL-Antenna-8dBi/dp/B000VDFOD4
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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 07:56:52 -0800 (PST)
From: fred.s...@verizon.net
Subject: 95 Mercedes E300 Diesel - $2800 (Saratoga Lake)
Visit the posting at
http://albany.craigslist.org/cto/1479626089.htmlhttp://albany.craigslist.org/cto/1479626089.html
to contact the person who posted this.
I need to find a source for a couple of cheap wireless panel type
antennas. I want to set up a bridge between two of our buildings, as
it would be cheaper than running an ethernet converter over the
twisted pair that is currently in place.
? I take it your tp is not Cat 5? That (four
Right. When less electricity is needed, less is made and the alternator puts
less load on the engine. Thats also the reason big windmills turn at a
constant rate, the demand is dialed to match the wind available.
-Curt
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:11:52 -0500
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
I have an Optima Yellow Top about a year old. It was in my Rover for 6 months
until some dude wrecked it, then I left it sit. Last week when my Jeep battery
died I put the Rover's Yellow Top in the Jeep and charged it up. Now sometimes
I'm getting a rotten egg/sulphur type smell inside the
Time for a new battery -- and check the voltage, it's possible you
have a bad voltage regulator, too.
Peter
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The battery voltage was low for a day or two when I first put it in, but then
it came back up to 13-14 with the engine running. Annoying this would happen.
I wonder if the Jeep is eating batteries. History of Jeep batteries. Factory
original from 2001-2006. Changed preemtively to a Yellow
I record every tank. I have driven my 115 300D something like 10K miles during
the summers from 2005 to 2009. I
have averaged about 21 miles per US gallon of diesel. The best was about 27 mpg
and the worst was about 18 mpg.
Some were road trips and some were pretty well all city driving. Some
Regulator is usually in the alternator these days.
Have the charging system checked, something is wrong if you are going
through batteries that fast, likely overcharging.
Peter
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On Nov 24, 2009, at 12:46 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote:
Regulator is usually in the alternator these days.
Have the charging system checked, something is wrong if you are going through
batteries
Beyond hideous but you've got to give the guy credit, it must have been an
amazing amount of work!
-Curt
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:16:29 -0500
From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net
Subject: [MBZ] Custom CLK
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Message-ID: 4b0bf8cd.4080...@voyager.net
Hi Curt,
How long have I been on the list Sheesh.
I thought the list might be interested to see that someone has apparently tried
a MB diesel/hydrogen hybrid. I hadn't heard of anyone doing that before with a
Mercedes. If that has already been discussed in here, apparently I
Thank you all for your input. I figure there must a happy
medium in quality/price with a part.
--PT, 1981 300D
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:52:54 -0500
From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Choice of brake rotor and pads
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sometimes you all need a little something to make you smile.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHX2mvFVQMsfeature=related
LarryT
91 300D
OilAnalysis Time?
Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters?
www.youroil.net
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I think the conditions you drive in are a big factor, because each type of
pad material has tradeoffs. I do a lot of mountainous driving in very high
temps, sometimes pulling a trailer so I like the PBR/AXXIS Ceramic pads.
They make a lot of noise, a lot of dust, and don't last long- but they're
Tyler wrote:
I like the PBR/AXXIS Ceramic pads.
They make a lot of noise, a lot of dust, and don't last long- but they're
the only pads I've found that won't fade under any conditions I put them
under.
How about Akebono Ceramic? Fade out or haven't tried them yet?
Mitch.
I always thought this one was touching:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rv2-DYgzcY
Off topic, how an ignoramus cuts a tree down:
(the name is Villa, Bob Villa)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6N6rViWIzVY
Mitch.
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Haven't tried them yet- I'm not sure where to get them or if they make
them for my cars ('87 190DT and '87 Volvo 745T). Now that I've found
something that works, I don't think I'll experiment anymore. The
conditions in which you realize oh, I guess this pad really isn't that
great usually aren't a
idiot paid too much for the rebuild. Should have just found a 616
instead. No way I am going to think all the cash I put into Gump is
going to come back to me
clay
On Nov 24, 2009, at 6:02 AM, Rich Thomas wrote:
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Well AutoZone says battery and charging system tested OK but agreed the battery
stunk and was hot. It was sizzling (noise) before I went into the store. I'll
see what happens. I never noticed over voltage problems with the Jeep.
Thanks,
Brian
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..If you fill it so you see fuel standing in the fill pipe after
having bounced the rear end of the car several times to get the bubbles out,
you will have a very consistent fill. I've done that since 1972...
Right.
Coming up with accurate mpg numbers when not doing so is a waste of
brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote:
Well AutoZone says battery and charging system tested OK but agreed the battery stunk and was hot. It was sizzling (noise) before I went into the store. I'll see what happens.
I see two possibilities. Your alternator is working overtime, or your battery
has
Driving home this afternoon a woman in a white Bentley Continental
Flying Spur tailgated me for 12 miles with her bright lights on.
--R
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Her Lucas voltage regulator was closed causing her battery to over
charge, she didn't want to boil it. Happens to me all the time in my Rolls.
--
Pete Arnold
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..If you fill it so you see fuel standing in the fill pipe after
having bounced the rear end of the car several times to get the bubbles out,
you will have a very consistent fill. I've done that since 1972...
Coming up with
'Possibility of that happening with gasoline or Diesel if the tank packed
full of cool fuel and the vehicle is immediately parked on a hot day,
especially in the sun.
Wilton
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Fool! Rusty has all!
Seriously Rusty can hook you up with anything, he even had parts for my
Ranger...
-Curt
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:32:24 -0800 (PST)
From: Tyler casi...@usermail.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Choice of brake rotor and pads
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
My mother's Cherokee used to eat radios and one of the headlights (I forget
which one, they were relatively easy to replace). Had to replace each about
once a year until my dad discovered an inline radio protector dodad at
RadioShack. Never had to put in another radio although it continued to
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If the battery's hot, sizzling, and stinking, then it
_is_ overcharging and you have a problem to address.
Shorted cell is rare on Optimas, is it not?
-- Jim
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This is the first sizzling stinking battery I've seen but the second yellow top
that has died. The last one was 9-12 months ago, also in the Jeep. That one
gave no indications or advance warning. It just wouldn't start after I came
out of a restaurant. It was very difficult to jump
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Optima quality has gone down hill recently--they are no longer
legendary as they were when they first came out.
Of course. Optima was bought by I-forget-who some time ago.
-- Jim
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You have had Diesels since 1972?
On 11/23/09 10:36 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote:
On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:25:34 -0800 (PST) Tylercasi...@usermail.com
wrote:
it seems like mostly random error, probably from the pump shutting off
at different levels.
If you fill it so you see fuel
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Dan
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Jim wrote:
Of course. Optima was bought by I-forget-who some time ago.
Gates was the original designer.
Johnson Controls, I think purchased Optima.
mao
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Not noticeably, but it was not an oilburner on M1. I figured it was
good PM. It probably did slow oil consumption some; I didn't try to
measure any before or after.
On 11/24/09 6:35 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
wrote:
Did replacing the valve seals reduce oil
And we used to use lead to do similar things to cars
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
Beyond hideous but you've got to give the guy credit, it must have been an
amazing amount of work!
-Curt
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:16:29 -0500
From: Mitch
protection.
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...Beyond hideous..
Not that it matters, but that wasn't a CLK.
RLE
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akebono pads are fine with my 96 300D and leave only a little residue (no black
stuff). I like that!
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...I've always heard that is a Very Bad Thing to do with gas cars,
especially in hot weather and/or if you are planning to park the car soon
after
filling up---the gas expands and ends up on the ground via
the overrun system (or whatever it's called)...
Look. Sealed fuel systems have
My SLC had an expansion fuel tank above the mani tank - probably for just
such an eventuality. I'm not familiar enough with the 124 yet to know if it
has one also - yet.
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:14 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:
...I've always heard that is a Very Bad Thing to do with gas cars,
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:11:52 -0500 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
There is no free electricity coming out of any alternator/generator.
Physics always wins.
Yup.
Craig
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I would love to see the milage rating for a diesel-electric hybrid,
should be about 30% greater than a gas/electric for city driving.
Same deal on the highway, though -- worse than the equivalent non/
hybrid.
Hydrogen fuel is a pipe dream -- the only current source is de-
carbonized
You can flood the charcoal canister and spill fuel (they aren't that
big). The tank is designed to have air space at all times, and
shaking it to fill that designed space results in excessive unburned
hydrocarbon emissions (onto the ground). May not happen to you, but
that's the way it
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote:
You can flood the charcoal canister and spill fuel (they aren't that big).
Exactly. It's for fumes, not liquid fuel. Expecting it to function
as a safety device to prevent overfueling is asking for trouble.
Alex
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:02:32 -0600 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
You have had Diesels since 1972?
Yes.
Craig
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On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net wrote:
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:02:32 -0600 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
You have had Diesels since 1972?
Yes.
Not as long as some. Didn't Marshall start dieseling in the '60s with
a finny or a Ponton?
Alex
Peter Frederick wrote:
Sequestration is bu...it too
-- who wants a volcano of CO2 snow when the underground storage blows
out (as it will, surely).
I never thought of that. I knew a fellow who lost a burst disk on a 20lb tank in
the back seat of his car as he drove home from the shop that
Alex Chamberlain wrote:
Not as long as some. Didn't Marshall start dieseling in the '60s with
a finny or a Ponton?
He started buying MBZ about time I was born, after his wife was involved in a
serious (fatal?) crash. I don't know if that first (1962?) car was diesel.
Mitch.
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 7:32 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
Are those wheels actually mounted on the hubs?
http://de.fishki.net/picsw/112009/24/post/tachka/tn.jpg
In theory, couldn't you have an extra-wide spacer (really a cylinder
of metal at least a foot long in this case), and
Alex Chamberlain wrote:
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 7:32 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
Are those wheels actually mounted on the hubs?
http://de.fishki.net/picsw/112009/24/post/tachka/tn.jpg
In theory, couldn't you have an extra-wide spacer (really a cylinder
of metal at least a foot
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
Either that, or you could roll a couple of wheels up next to the car and
take a picture. I suspect/fear it's real though.
Look again---you can see the front (actual) wheel through the spokes
of the big (fake) one, and the
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