Re: [MBZ] 201 HVAC

2011-08-05 Thread Gerry Archer
The HVAC system in my '83 300D was doing weird things, even after I replaced all the units, pushbutton, temp controller, and fan speed controller units. Having had bench experience with the weird things low voltage can cause a solid state system to do; (especially old solid state systems), I used

Re: [MBZ] 300SD/450SEL same door seals

2011-08-05 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote: Is it right that the W116 300SD and 450SEL would have the same door seals? Not if they've got molded corners, unless you're supposed to cut a few inches out of the back seals, top and bottom. Until I saw the eBay pic, I was thinking it was just a roll of door gasket

Re: [MBZ] 300SD/450SEL same door seals

2011-08-05 Thread Mitch Haley
I should have read the whole listing before replying. $122 for a set of used door seals out of a 30 year old car? I don't think so. OTOH, the front seals are $80each new, and you'd have to call Rusty for price/availability on the rears. Mitch. ___

Re: [MBZ] Balky flasher switch or relay in W123 300TD

2011-08-05 Thread Jim Cathey
Does the W123 have electronics in the flasher, too? I don't think so. The switch contains the flasher in the 114/115, as does the early 107 (etc.) 'candy bar' flasher switch. The smaller red rocker switch does not contain the flasher. -- Jim ___

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: 201 HVAC

2011-08-05 Thread Jim Cathey
If your system is anything like a 123, splitting the power supply might be worth trying. They're really quite different, I don't at this time suspect that kind of power problem, the internal guts of the HVAC box is powered by an internal 8V regulator. Gotta go down a lot to get underneath

Re: [MBZ] 300SD/450SEL same door seals

2011-08-05 Thread andrew strasfogel
Make sure they came off without tearing. It's a steal if they fit your car. On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 7:39 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: I should have read the whole listing before replying. $122 for a set of used door seals out of a 30 year old car? I don't think so. OTOH, the

Re: [MBZ] Balky flasher switch or relay in W123 300TD

2011-08-05 Thread andrew strasfogel
So Jim - where is the flasher, and what needs to be replaced or fixed if the flasher works intermittently? The relay or the switch? I am getting confused again... On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 8:11 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Does the W123 have electronics in the flasher, too? I

Re: [MBZ] Balky flasher switch or relay in W123 300TD

2011-08-05 Thread Jim Cathey
So Jim - where is the flasher, and what needs to be replaced or fixed if the flasher works intermittently? The relay or the switch? I am getting confused again... Don't be confused. As for the flasher's location, let me tell you I don't know. (Gotta imagine Tevye saying that there.)

Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD is this an OK car?

2011-08-05 Thread Dieselhead
But a 14 head is not a conviction. All of my 603s have or have had 14 heads. My original SDL was the best running of all and had over 400K on the 14 head. The last time this came up, the general discussion was that if the 14 head survived this long, it would probably live out its life.

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-05 Thread Michael Canfield
utilized as a gasoline additive for its oxygen content and octane rating Now that is an interesting statement. I say bullshit. Mike On Aug 4, 2011 10:38 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines by Staff Writers Washington (UPI) Aug 3, 2011 Plans to use existing

Re: [MBZ] Trip update

2011-08-05 Thread Dieselhead
Both had A/c, and it didn't make much difference. But you missed the point. It was just a tease to Kaleb because he was happy with the mileage of his 210. I'd be happy with the mileage he got in a 210. Basically the same as the list standard: It is a POS; better dump it; I'll give you

Re: [MBZ] There is no substitute for cubic inches, unquote

2011-08-05 Thread Dieselhead
Pretty much the same (in terms of displacement) as the old frod/murcuric 170 of the 60s. Just a lot more refined and more power. ...We are not in a vw we are in a real car with lots of metal and a big 6cyl engine... I wouldn't call 180 cubic inches big, exactly. Adequate is more like

Re: [MBZ] Balky flasher switch or relay in W123 300TD

2011-08-05 Thread Craig
On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 07:01:59 -0700 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: So Jim - where is the flasher, and what needs to be replaced or fixed if the flasher works intermittently? The relay or the switch? I am getting confused again... Don't be confused. As for the flasher's

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-05 Thread Allan Streib
One of the reasons it was added was to add oxygen to the fuel to achieve reduced CO emission. I don't know how it might affect octane rating, which is an indicator of resistance to pre-ignition. Originally MBTE was used until it was discovered that it has a tendency to contaminate

[MBZ] 14 wheels on Craigslist

2011-08-05 Thread Curt Raymond
http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/pts/2531370992.html Gotta clean up the yard... I'd do $125 for one of youse guys. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] Balky flasher switch or relay in W123 300TD

2011-08-05 Thread Fmiser
Andrew wrote: Capacitors in the relay? Jim Cathey wrote: That could also be the case. (Or bad solder joints, etc.) But always check the switch first, it's out in harm's way. Craig wrote: I know our W115 220D/8 had electronics in the flasher, because it was a part of the

Re: [MBZ] Balky flasher switch or relay in W123 300TD

2011-08-05 Thread WILTON
My '80 240D (bought new Nov '79) had rocker switch on the flasher in center console. Wilton - Original Message - From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Balky flasher switch or relay in

[MBZ] Old-style VIN decode?

2011-08-05 Thread Allan Streib
Is anyone able to tell me the month/year of manufacture of this VIN: 11612012003594 Thanks, Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] Old-style VIN decode?

2011-08-05 Thread OK Don
I thought the EPC would give me the datacard, but no luck. It does recognize the chassis from the SN, but the datacard option is grayed out. On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Is anyone able to tell me the month/year of manufacture of this VIN:

[MBZ] Heater swap

2011-08-05 Thread Michael Canfield
I was wondering if it is possible to swap out manual heater controls from a 240d into my 300d to replace the automatic stuff? I like the old playschool knobs my 82 240 had much better. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] Heater swap

2011-08-05 Thread degcoast
Now there's an idea I really like. I miss the simplicity of my 240D's. Dwight 82 300CD(with flaky ACC) 90 300D 2.5t Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:30:11

Re: [MBZ] Balky flasher switch or relay in W123 300TD

2011-08-05 Thread andrew strasfogel
I found two spare console flasher switches in the garage. Swapped one of them and tested - nothing - dead! The other had the same part number but was not as deep (tall). That one worked We'll test its reliability in the next heat wave, starting Monday. On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 2:28 PM, WILTON

Re: [MBZ] Heater swap

2011-08-05 Thread Craig
On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:30:11 -0400 Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: I was wondering if it is possible to swap out manual heater controls from a 240d into my 300d to replace the automatic stuff? I like the old playschool knobs my 82 240 had much better. If you have a source for all

Re: [MBZ] Balky flasher switch or relay in W123 300TD

2011-08-05 Thread Fmiser
WILTON wrote: Craig wrote: Does the W123 have electronics in the flasher, too? I thought it was the small ice-cube like thing under the wooden console cover. Philip wrote: Early W123s it's combined. On my cars the ones with the push-button flasher switch have the

Re: [MBZ] Heater swap

2011-08-05 Thread Fmiser
Michael Canfield wrote: I was wondering if it is possible to swap out manual heater controls from a 240d into my 300d to replace the automatic stuff? I like the old playschool knobs my 82 240 had much better. Me too! But it's not just the controls. The manual system uses twin heater

Re: [MBZ] 300SD/450SEL same door seals

2011-08-05 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Used seals? No way... Maybe this guy has some brake rotors for sale too... Jaime On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:28 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Is it right that the W116 300SD and 450SEL would have the same door seals? I didn't think the SD was a long wheelbase? Is this a

Re: [MBZ] 300SD/450SEL same door seals

2011-08-05 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Maybe some used brake pads and used hoses as well? In all honesty, if you divided the used door seal price by 5, I'd consider it, since that's ~ what a set of junkyard seals run in my neck of the woods. Walt On Aug 5, 2011 6:18 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Used seals? No

Re: [MBZ] Heater swap

2011-08-05 Thread Craig
On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:07:29 -0500 Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: But it's not just the controls. The manual system uses twin heater cores and twin flow valves. I think that means the number of holes in the firewall don't match. I suspect the rest would be a fairly straight forward swap if

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-05 Thread Mountain Man
Allan wrote: Originally MBTE was used until it was discovered that it has a tendency to contaminate groundwater/drinking water as a result of spills and leaky storage tanks and pipelines.  Ethanol then became the favored additive for oxygenation. The industry has gotten smarter. Today,

Re: [MBZ] 201 HVAC

2011-08-05 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Any caps in the works that could have failed, or had their ESR rating fluctuate? Not just electrolytics. Any critical feedback resistors that could have drifted over time? Did you throw the scope on the thing at various points along the signal paths, checking each stage? Conformal coat changing

Re: [MBZ] 300SD/450SEL same door seals

2011-08-05 Thread buymbparts
I bet he has used FUSES. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld -Original Message- From: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 18:18:40 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] Balky flasher switch or relay in W123 300TD

2011-08-05 Thread Stuart S
I don't know about the W123, but on my W115, the flasher relay is *separate* from the hazard switch (though if the switch fails, you lose ALL flashing...). Stuart S. Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 05:11:10 -0700 From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Balky flasher switch or relay in W123 300TD

2011-08-05 Thread WILTON
Hey, maybe my 80 240D did have a push switch (not rocker) on the flasher in center console. Wilton - Original Message - From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Balky flasher switch or

Re: [MBZ] 300SD/450SEL same door seals

2011-08-05 Thread WILTON
Selling used seals? Why didn't I think of that? BTW, I may have a used 126 hood pad for sale soon. 'May be in several pieces when I get it off, though. Wilton - Original Message - From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent:

[MBZ] Dc update

2011-08-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Rode the metro down, first stop was the archives got in but line to the rotunda looked like was hours long so gave up. Went thru the natural history museum, then walked down to the white house. I had checked obambo schedule just to see if I could see anything and he was leaving for camp David

Re: [MBZ] Dc update

2011-08-05 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Maybe on the way out of town we can drive down there any maybe FIND A PARKING SPOT close to those Is Kaleb setting his goals a wee bit high here? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-05 Thread MG
Don't know about the oxygen part, haven't done any research on it, but the octane part is correct. Alcohol burns a lot slower then gasoline. (What you never used an alcohol lamp and blow pipe to produce a pin point flame in science class? Try that with gas! IF you are suicidal.) That is what a

Re: [MBZ] Dc update

2011-08-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Maybe I should go down there tonight Sent from my iPhone On Aug 5, 2011, at 8:04 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Maybe on the way out of town we can drive down there any maybe FIND A PARKING SPOT close to those Is Kaleb setting his goals a wee bit high

Re: [MBZ] 300SD/450SEL same door seals

2011-08-05 Thread Rick Knoble
Maybe this guy has some brake rotors for sale too... Maybe some used brake pads and used hoses as well? Selling used seals? Why didn't I think of that? Good used seals for a coupe, maybe. They used to be pricey, if they are even still available. Rick

Re: [MBZ] Dc update

2011-08-05 Thread Peter Frederick
You can spend weeks down on the mall and not see everything! We've been out there pretty often since 1968 when my Aunt decided to stay (working for the State Department) and have toured ourselves silly and only scratched the surface. You should also tty to get to the new Aero-Space Museum

Re: [MBZ] Dc update

2011-08-05 Thread WILTON
Every America should see the Vietnam War Memorial Wall, study those 58,000 names on it and think about how they got there. Wilton - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 9:01 PM

Re: [MBZ] Dc update

2011-08-05 Thread Peter Frederick
Amen Wilton. There was a huge howl when the design was chosen, but I think it is perfect. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-05 Thread G Mann
If that was the only downside we would have some reason to be happy.. it's not. Ethanol production has gone into direct conflict with our human food chain. It's driven food prices up over 20%, consumed producing farm land, and in general messed with fuel production by complication of the

Re: [MBZ] MTBE

2011-08-05 Thread RELNGSON
...Originally MBTE was used until it was discovered that it has a tendency to contaminate groundwater/drinking water as a result of spills and leaky storage tanks and pipelines.  Ethanol then became the favored additive for oxygenation... MTBE was used only in a few states although I

Re: [MBZ] Dc update

2011-08-05 Thread OK Don
HA! I did it once! On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Maybe on the way out of town we can drive down there any maybe FIND A PARKING SPOT close to those Is Kaleb setting his goals a wee bit high here? -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-05 Thread OK Don
Like many other things - follow the money. Last I heard, the industry was driving the ethanol mandate, congress just did what they were paid to do. On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 8:58 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: It is yet another government mandated, poorly planned, poorly executed, burden on

Re: [MBZ] 14 wheels on Craigslist

2011-08-05 Thread Hendrik Fay
Will not fit 124's or post mid 85 201's but will fit 123's and 126's. Hendrik who has a set of those in the shed, which should be flogged off Curt Raymond wrote: http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/pts/2531370992.html Gotta clean up the yard... I'd do $125 for one of youse guys. -Curt