Re: [MBZ] Phoenix

2012-10-14 Thread RELNGSON
...As if you needed another reason to explain why Phoenix sucks... My sister has lived there since the '60s and says ooh, we love it. I've told that if she cares to see me, she can come up here. They say it's a dry heat and I say so is a crematorium. I've made the trip by light plane but

Re: [MBZ] Hazet tool?

2012-10-14 Thread Max Dillon
I saw one of those engines in a museum once. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: M180 or M120 engines. All I ever used was a combi wrench and an ordinary screwdriver. This tool is not needed for most of us. If you were going to be adjusting

[MBZ] 1982 300td question

2012-10-14 Thread Rick Hawkins Java
Folks, Well i got my oil cooler lines off ... now how to get them OUT of the car do they remove from the rear or the front?? Another problem ... i cracked my ALDA pressure line ... i can putty it up with waterweld or something, but where can one find that tubing? also the tubing for

Re: [MBZ] 1973 Mercedes ?s smoke, valve seals, vacuum pump, sunroof

2012-10-14 Thread Tim C
On Oct 13, 2012 6:13 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: As noted, white smoke is coolant, and you can smell it. Typically it's most obvious when first started and it will really show up on cold days. Until I saw white smoke I found it easy to think oil smoke was white - the blue

Re: [MBZ] 1973 Mercedes ?s smoke, valve seals, vacuum pump, sunroof

2012-10-14 Thread Mitch Haley
Tim C wrote: Until I saw white smoke I found it easy to think oil smoke was white - the blue has just a tinge of darkness. Once you have seen both it is easier to tell, but it's hard to verify over email. Once you know what oil smoke smells like, it's easy to tell if you're standing back

Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td question

2012-10-14 Thread Mitch Haley
Rick Hawkins Java wrote: Folks, Well i got my oil cooler lines off ... now how to get them OUT of the car do they remove from the rear or the front?? On my W116 I'm pretty sure from the front, but it's been ten years since I did it. I do remember that I just had to wiggle and wiggle

Re: [MBZ] Hazet tool?

2012-10-14 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Ah... probably M189 and variants. M180 and variants don't have a flat blade screw adjustment. They use ball studs with a conflicting thread for friction. See M189 adjustment photo here: http://www.jaimekop.com/2011/11/fine-tuning/ Nice tool, but the job is really easy with any crowsfoot. But

Re: [MBZ] Hazet tool?

2012-10-14 Thread Mitch Haley
Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Nice tool, but the job is really easy with any crowsfoot. But if it had the matching screw driver, I'd still pick it up! Email the seller. He might have the driver and not know it goes with the wrench. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td question

2012-10-14 Thread Rick Knoble
On Oct 14, 2012, at 2:42 AM, Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com wrote: Well i got my oil cooler lines off ... now how to get them OUT of the car do they remove from the rear or the front?? Bottom. I changed them when I changed the drivers side motor mount, when the mount was out. Bad

Re: [MBZ] 1973 Mercedes ?s smoke, valve seals, vacuum pump, sunroof

2012-10-14 Thread WILTON
Yep, 8+ years ago, when I went to Winston-Salem to check out a for-sale, showroom '87 300D (82 kmi), friend with me laughed at me and continues even now to enjoy telling our other friends about how I got down and sniffed the exhaust while making my decision to buy it. It's at 127 kmi now and

Re: [MBZ] 1973 Mercedes ?s smoke, valve seals, vacuum pump, sunroof

2012-10-14 Thread Mitch Haley
WILTON wrote: PO friend had paid local quick change crooks for many years to change oil and filters every 3 kmi. Oil filter had not been touched in many years. Would have been tempted to reverse the sale so he could file a claim with their liability carrier over the damage they did to

Re: [MBZ] Phoenix

2012-10-14 Thread G Mann
Phoenix may suck in the summer with 115F heat... but try shoveling sunshine all winter just once and you will change your tune. I have seen temps here inside a closed car [measured] of 180+ at high summer season. Plan accordingly. At the Ranch I've measured ground temps [mid summer] of 190F+.

Re: [MBZ] Hazet tool?

2012-10-14 Thread OK Don
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Re: [MBZ] Hazet tool?

2012-10-14 Thread Dieselhead
Oh! ok. I was thinking the M180 had a screw and lock nut arrangement. Been to many years since I worked on a M180 to remember. What I do remember was that the M180 was so smooth and quiet. M120, being the 4 cyl version of the M180 must have the same valve arrangement as the M180. Is

Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td question

2012-10-14 Thread Dieselhead
Folks, Well i got my oil cooler lines off ... now how to get them OUT of the car do they remove from the rear or the front?? Another problem ... i cracked my ALDA pressure line ... i can putty it up with waterweld or something, but where can one find that tubing? also the tubing for

[MBZ] OT- Space jump

2012-10-14 Thread WILTON
'Nother ATTABOY for Felix! Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] 1973 Mercedes ?s smoke, valve seals, vacuum pump, sunroof

2012-10-14 Thread WILTON
Yep, sorry SOB's ruined an otherwise perfectly good ivory 123, and I got to pay for it. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1973 Mercedes ?s smoke,

Re: [MBZ] B2 piston seal/pinched from the Hilter list today

2012-10-14 Thread Tim C
On Sep 25, 2012 8:09 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: thats great and dandy but the vehicle in these photos does not have a broken b2 Right, his complaint was a leaking seal. I think the process is the same, right? Best, Tim On 9/25/2012 6:14 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Looks

Re: [MBZ] Phoenix

2012-10-14 Thread John Freer
Sure wish the thousands upon thousands of snowbirds felt the way you do. Good for our economy? Sure if you own a business but for the average resident, it adds untold frustration and increased expense. John On Oct 13, 2012 11:03 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...As if you needed another reason

Re: [MBZ] 1973 Mercedes ?s smoke, valve seals, vacuum pump, sunroof

2012-10-14 Thread Craig
On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 10:56:02 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: air filter in place was some off-the-shelf POS an inch too short for the canister - i. e., NO air filtering. I once looked at a vehicle for sale that had no air filter. I passed. Craig ___

Re: [MBZ] OT- Space jump

2012-10-14 Thread Michael Canfield
I watched that! Awesome! I think he deserves at least a dozen attaboys for that one! Did they finally decide if he hit Mach or not? I saw 729mph.. Mike On Oct 14, 2012 2:23 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Nother ATTABOY for Felix! Wilton ___

[MBZ] OT, but on topic for life

2012-10-14 Thread Dieselhead
In memory of those lost, and those who participated in the Scheinfurt raid 69 years ago today, October 14th, (in 1943), we should never forget the constant threat of tyranny, including from our own goobermnt From Wikipedia: The second Schweinfurt raid[7] was a major World War II air battle

Re: [MBZ] OT- Space jump

2012-10-14 Thread Rich Thomas
What time did he finally take the leap (or get launched)? I tried to check out the live stream this morning and nothing was there. --R On 10/14/12 4:29 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: I watched that! Awesome! I think he deserves at least a dozen attaboys for that one! Did they finally decide

Re: [MBZ] Phoenix heat

2012-10-14 Thread Rich Thomas
I took a road trip a coupla weeks ago and saw several Piouses being driven on the interstate and 80+mph, passing me. Go figure. So much for saving the planet. --R On 10/13/12 11:46 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: .One thing I question is how much thermal capacity the material will have.

Re: [MBZ] OT- Space jump

2012-10-14 Thread Michael Canfield
Started at noon eastern time and was back on the ground around 2:30. Mike On Oct 14, 2012 5:52 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: What time did he finally take the leap (or get launched)? I tried to check out the live stream this morning and nothing was there. --R

[MBZ] WAS: Phoenix heat NOW: church of the pious

2012-10-14 Thread Dieselhead
I took a road trip a coupla weeks ago and saw several Piouses being driven on the interstate and 80+mph, passing me. Go figure. So much for saving the planet. --R Oh! Like you just don't understand! Its like they WANT to save the planet and like they are S much holier than you are

Re: [MBZ] OT- Space jump

2012-10-14 Thread Rich Thomas
OK I was looking at it about 11AM, some twits were suggesting things were happening but no vid feed and there was no indication of when it was going to take off. --R On 10/14/12 6:08 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: Started at noon eastern time and was back on the ground around 2:30. Mike On Oct

Re: [MBZ] WAS: Phoenix heat NOW: church of the pious

2012-10-14 Thread Rich Thomas
Like --R (oh wait this is okiebenz not the book of faces) On 10/14/12 6:13 PM, Dieselhead wrote: I took a road trip a coupla weeks ago and saw several Piouses being driven on the interstate and 80+mph, passing me. Go figure. So much for saving the planet. --R Oh! Like you just don't

Re: [MBZ] OT- Space jump

2012-10-14 Thread WILTON
'Hit 729 mph, Mach 1.24. 'From 127 k+ft. Wilton - Original Message - From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 6:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT- Space jump Started at noon eastern time and was back on

Re: [MBZ] OT, but on topic for life

2012-10-14 Thread Craig
On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 16:32:36 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: In memory of those lost, and those who participated in the Scheinfurt raid 69 years ago today, October 14th, (in 1943), we should never forget the constant threat of tyranny, including from our own goobermnt Losses

Re: [MBZ] Found Your New Wheels :)

2012-10-14 Thread Mountain Man
Brian wrote: One of a kind, by U.S. standards! OOOHH - let me in on the US standards. Yesterday I saw flavor of the day at local Culvers store - they sell frozen custard - quite good stuff. Flavor of the day yesterday was chocolate brownie overload. Yeah - overload is the US standard - overload

Re: [MBZ] OT: Audio gear

2012-10-14 Thread Mountain Man
Mike wrote: Hey Guys, I know a few of you are into nice audio equipment so I thought I would share my score. Went to the Re-Store(they take donations like the Salvation Army but it is building materials and household goods, not a bunch of clothes and books) to pick up a used toilet. Re-Store

Re: [MBZ] Hazet tool?

2012-10-14 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
I never had a 4 cylinder car... according to the starting August 1959 manual, the M121 has the same arrangement as M180s. Jaime On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Oh! ok. I was thinking the M180 had a screw and lock nut arrangement. Been to many years

Re: [MBZ] Hazet tool?

2012-10-14 Thread Dieselhead
I never had a 4 cylinder car... according to the starting August 1959 manual, the M121 has the same arrangement as M180s. Jaime I was close. I never drove an M121, but I got one in a junker. I was able to sell the engine complete. I did have a M102 euro. Nice car/engine

Re: [MBZ] Found Your New Wheels :)

2012-10-14 Thread Brian Toscano
Do they make the frozen custard with real ingredients like Steak 'n Shake milk shakes? On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Brian wrote: One of a kind, by U.S. standards! OOOHH - let me in on the US standards. Yesterday I saw flavor of the day at

Re: [MBZ] Found Your New Wheels :)

2012-10-14 Thread Dan Penoff
Culver's is a chain that was spun off from their original stores in Wisconsin. If you can imagine, NOTHING such as frozen custard or their famous butter burgers contain anything less than the real ingredients. In other words, if you're watching your calories, don't go to Culver's. Dan former

Re: [MBZ] Electric cars

2012-10-14 Thread Curt Raymond
I'm just catching up after vacation... I agree with you entirely, transition is never easy. You can look back and see plenty of times people said stupid stuff. Such as: Everything that can be invented has been invented. - Charles H. Duell, Commissioner, U.S. Office of Patents, 1899

Re: [MBZ] Found Your New Wheels :)

2012-10-14 Thread Dan Penoff
Oh, and unless they have changed things, Steak 'n' Shake uses a concoction known as shake base to make their shakes. It's a form of ice milk that comes in big frozen tubes about 12 in diameter and 24 long. The flavor comes from flavorings that are added to the shake base when your shake is

Re: [MBZ] OT: Fledging electric car market in turmoil

2012-10-14 Thread Curt Raymond
Fires too, a friend on Facebook says electric cars burn to the ground as if gas cars never ever catch on fire. -Curt Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 07:25:38 -0400 From: Tim C bb...@crone.us To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Fledging electric car market in turmoil

Re: [MBZ] Found Your New Wheels :)

2012-10-14 Thread Dieselhead
Do they make the frozen custard with real ingredients like Steak 'n Shake milk shakes? better than... Real WI cream custard is made in each store and pretty good sandwiches too ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] 0W40

2012-10-14 Thread Curt Raymond
I think it varies for a certain value of good. Need your 61x car to start reliably at -10F? It probably wants 0w40. Want your car to burn/leak as little oil as possible? 0w40 is probably not a good choice. I ran my '83 240D for many miles with 0w40 in it when I was living in an apartment and

Re: [MBZ] M1 15 W 50

2012-10-14 Thread Curt Raymond
I run 15w50 in my '78 240D in the winter time, it starts easier than with conventional 15w40. I emailed Mobil when the CF designation was dropped and they said they'd done it because it was an outdated standard and that the formulation hadn't changed. I haven't done much testing with 15w50, I

Re: [MBZ] M1 15 W 50

2012-10-14 Thread Curt Raymond
You're wrong, I said according to my testing the formula for 5w40 is basically unchanged, I have no data for 15w50 other than when I emailed Mobil and they said it was the same stuff just without CF. -Curt Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 10:40:24 -0500 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] M1 15 W 50

2012-10-14 Thread Dieselhead
Ok so the oil analyses were for the lighter weight oils and the letter about the CF was for 15w50? But the end result is still that the 15-50 is still ok for OM 61x even though the CF was dropped. 5w-40 for below zero weather. Is that a fair statement? You're wrong, I said according to my

Re: [MBZ] Found Your New Wheels :)

2012-10-14 Thread Brian Toscano
Dan, Culver's Chocolate Shake has chocolate flavored syrup and vanilla custard mix. Though I like their burgers and cheese curds, I generally skip the shakes. Last time I got a shake at Steak 'n Shake it seemed to have real banana in there, but maybe the chocolate is fake too. On Sun,