Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter

2012-11-03 Thread Tim C
On Nov 2, 2012 11:45 PM, "Craig" wrote: > > Just Fri, 2 Nov 2012 23:38:33 -0400 "WILTON" wrote: > > > Raleigh-Durham-Cary, NC. I'm in Durham now, but I have lived in all three of the above plus Morrisville in the past 15 years (the greater "Research Triangle Park" area). I live close to Duke Un

Re: [MBZ] Picture of OM617 injection line clamping

2012-11-03 Thread Tim C
On Nov 2, 2012 11:51 PM, "Craig" @ pisquared.net > wrote: > > Would someone with a 5-cylinder W123 send me some pictures of the > clamping of the injection lines so I can compare with my car? I presume > the clamping of the injection lines is the same for turbo and non-turbo. On my NA 77 I have an

[MBZ] Todays job

2012-11-03 Thread Max Dillon
Install a new heat pump and air handler for our downstairs, replacing dead Carrier unit which is 18 years old. Goodman unit going in. Toughest part will be all the connections to the air handler, working in a crawl space. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD _

Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter

2012-11-03 Thread WILTON
Yep. Goldsboro - 55 mi east-southeast of Raleigh. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Craig" To: Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 11:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 23:38:33 -0400 "WILTON" wrote: Raleigh-Durham-Cary, NC. Wilton You're near t

Re: [MBZ] Todays job

2012-11-03 Thread Rich Thomas
You got your permits on that, right? --R (who is debating getting a permit for my mini-split system) On 11/3/12 10:09 AM, Max Dillon wrote: Install a new heat pump and air handler for our downstairs, replacing dead Carrier unit which is 18 years old. Goodman unit going in. Toughest part will

Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter

2012-11-03 Thread Rich Thomas
I will be in the Peoples Glorious Progressive Demokratic Republik of Chapel Hill/Carrboro for Thanksgiving. Maybe I'll ride my bike up to your neck of the woods. --R On 11/3/12 9:02 AM, Tim C wrote: On Nov 2, 2012 11:45 PM, "Craig" wrote: Just Fri, 2 Nov 2012 23:38:33 -0400 "WILTON" wrote

[MBZ] building code question

2012-11-03 Thread Mitch Haley
Is it OK to run a 240v device on a 25 amp breaker through two parallel 14-2 NM romex instead of one 10-2 NM? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscr

Re: [MBZ] Todays job

2012-11-03 Thread WILTON
A split unit? 'Hope all goes well. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Max Dillon" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 10:09 AM Subject: [MBZ] Todays job Install a new heat pump and air handler for our downstairs, replacing dead Carrier unit which is 1

Re: [MBZ] building code question

2012-11-03 Thread Rich Thomas
no --R On 11/3/12 11:24 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Is it OK to run a 240v device on a 25 amp breaker through two parallel 14-2 NM romex instead of one 10-2 NM? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archi

Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter

2012-11-03 Thread WILTON
'Need to visit the Republik soon, myself, to take # 1 grndson to lunch, etc. He especially likes Carrboro. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter I will be

Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter

2012-11-03 Thread Dan Penoff
I have a friend who lives in Chapel Hill right off campus in the middle of a bunch of frat houses. Great place to hang out, especially if you're looking to party. Not a good place for peace and quiet, as she discovered on Halloween night. Dan On Nov 3, 2012, at 10:24 AM, Rich Thomas wrote:

Re: [MBZ] building code question

2012-11-03 Thread Dan Penoff
Not if you're attempting to comply with code. Serious no-no. Do it right. Dan On Nov 3, 2012, at 11:24 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: > Is it OK to run a 240v device on a 25 amp breaker through two parallel 14-2 > NM romex instead of one 10-2 NM? > > Mitch. > >

Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter

2012-11-03 Thread WILTON
Grndson is in 5th floor apt on Martin L. King Blvd. 'bout 3 blocks north of Franklin St. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter I have a friend who lives in

Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter

2012-11-03 Thread Dan Penoff
Not sure what Elizabeth's address is. I've been there, but she vectored me in over the phone at 1:00 am in the morning. I had a layover there when I was driving the 300E back from Philly. That reminds me, I need to get her address Dan On Nov 3, 2012, at 10:59 AM, WILTON wrote: > Grndso

Re: [MBZ] building code question

2012-11-03 Thread Jim Cathey
Is it OK to run a 240v device on a 25 amp breaker through two parallel 14-2 NM romex instead of one 10-2 NM? No. The purpose of the breaker is to prevent fire in the wiring. 25A through 14ga wire will cook. 25A through two paralleled 14ga wires will not cook. Ah, but how does the _breaker_ k

Re: [MBZ] Todays job

2012-11-03 Thread Craig
On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 10:09:39 -0400 Max Dillon wrote: > Install a new heat pump and air handler for our downstairs, replacing > dead Carrier unit which is 18 years old. Goodman unit going in. > Toughest part will be all the connections to the air handler, working > in a crawl space. You have you

Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter

2012-11-03 Thread Rich Thomas
I'm going to buy one of these to wear to that grocery store in Carrboro that always seems to have a "diverse" set of patrons http://www.cafepress.com/mf/45296368/celebrate-diversity-_tshirt http://www.thoseshirts.com/diversity.html Their heads will explode. --R On 11/3/12 10:41 AM, WILTON wro

[MBZ] Backup car back in service

2012-11-03 Thread Curt Raymond
My local Car Quest came through with a radiator for my '78 240D so yesterday I replaced it and while I was there the oil cooler. Rusty had come through with a great deal on that a couple weeks ago but its been so cool here it quit leaking so I hadn't bothered). Anyway removal is almost stupid ea

Re: [MBZ] my 240D mostly rust repair blog

2012-11-03 Thread Rich Thomas
Good blog and nice work. Inspires me to give it a go. --R On 11/2/12 9:19 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Thanks! I taught myself. Basically bought a welder 17 yrs ago to repair some rust. Struggled for a while but figured it out with some practice. The welding is the easy part, although but

Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter

2012-11-03 Thread WILTON
Grndson always likes to go to that grocery store, too. I usually wait in the car while Grndma and he go in. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter I'm goin

Re: [MBZ] Todays job

2012-11-03 Thread John Reames
Joy! Is it a DX unit or a package unit? (I'm presuming DX with pre-charged lines?) I've heard that goodman is to carrier as stulz is to liebert. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Nov 3, 2012, at 10:09, Max Dillon wrote: > Install a new heat pump

Re: [MBZ] Todays job

2012-11-03 Thread Mitch Haley
John Reames wrote: Joy! Is it a DX unit or a package unit? (I'm presuming DX with pre-charged lines?) I've heard that goodman is to carrier as stulz is to liebert. I don't believe Goodman is related to anything except Amana. Amana Distinctions = Goodman in beige paint. Real Amana stuff has so

Re: [MBZ] Todays job

2012-11-03 Thread Max Dillon
Sure! Come on over and take a look, wear something you can get dirty... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Rich Thomas wrote: >You got your permits on that, right? > >--R (who is debating getting a permit for my mini-split system) > >On 11/3/12 10:09 AM, Max Dillon wrote: >> Instal

Re: [MBZ] Todays job

2012-11-03 Thread Max Dillon
Yes, thanks. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD WILTON wrote: >A split unit? 'Hope all goes well. > >Wilton > >- Original Message - >From: "Max Dillon" >To: "Mercedes Discussion List" >Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 10:09 AM >Subject: [MBZ] Todays job > > >> Install a

Re: [MBZ] Todays job

2012-11-03 Thread Max Dillon
Thanks, did the upstairs last summer. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Craig wrote: >On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 10:09:39 -0400 Max Dillon > >wrote: > >> Install a new heat pump and air handler for our downstairs, replacing >> dead Carrier unit which is 18 years old. Goodman unit going i

Re: [MBZ] Todays job

2012-11-03 Thread Max Dillon
Not sure what DX is, it's a split unit, not a package. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD John Reames wrote: >Joy! Is it a DX unit or a package unit? (I'm presuming DX with >pre-charged lines?) > >I've heard that goodman is to carrier as stulz is to liebert. > > >-- >John W Reames >

Re: [MBZ] Todays job

2012-11-03 Thread Max Dillon
Also not tracking your comparison with Carrier, is that good or bad? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD John Reames wrote: >Joy! Is it a DX unit or a package unit? (I'm presuming DX with >pre-charged lines?) > >I've heard that goodman is to carrier as stulz is to liebert. > > >-- >J

Re: [MBZ] building code question

2012-11-03 Thread Fmiser
> Mitch Haley wrote: > Is it OK to run a 240v device on a 25 amp breaker through two > parallel 14-2 NM romex instead of one 10-2 NM? Yes. But it's likely doesn't satisfy local code. A pair of 14 AWG wires is equivalent to a single 11 AWG wire. NEC ampacity chart shows 12 AWG is suitable for 25

Re: [MBZ] Backup car back in service

2012-11-03 Thread Jim Cathey
As usual for me getting the air out is a bastard. I pour the coolant into the tank, then pull the top hose halfway off the radiator and backfill water until it starts spilling out over my hands, then jam the hose back on. Top off with water in the tank as required after driving. Seems to work

Re: [MBZ] building code question

2012-11-03 Thread Brian Toscano
12 AWG = 25 ga for an extension cord maybe, but in the wall of a house? That ought to be 20A ? On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Fmiser wrote: > > Mitch Haley wrote: > > > Is it OK to run a 240v device on a 25 amp breaker through two > > parallel 14-2 NM romex instead of one 10-2 NM? > > Yes.

Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter

2012-11-03 Thread Max Dillon
We may be in Asheville. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Rich Thomas wrote: >I will be in the Peoples Glorious Progressive Demokratic Republik of >Chapel Hill/Carrboro for Thanksgiving. Maybe I'll ride my bike up to >your neck of the woods. > >--R > >On 11/3/12 9:02 AM, Tim C w

Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter

2012-11-03 Thread Max Dillon
Back of the shirt needs the "PEACE through superior firepower" B-52 in a circle. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Rich Thomas wrote: >I'm going to buy one of these to wear to that grocery store in Carrboro > >that always seems to have a "diverse" set of patrons >http://www.cafepre

Re: [MBZ] Todays job

2012-11-03 Thread John Reames
I was referring to the quality and durability. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Nov 3, 2012, at 13:15, Mitch Haley wrote: > John Reames wrote: >> Joy! Is it a DX unit or a package unit? (I'm presuming DX with pre-charged >> lines?) >> I've heard

Re: [MBZ] building code question

2012-11-03 Thread Rich Thomas
25A is not a rating for your basic Romex 12AWG or a 12ga extension cord, though it could probably carry that current for awhile before it starts getting toasty. It would have to have the higher temp rating. If you have ever wired up a cooktop or oven, they have pretty small wires attached to

Re: [MBZ] Todays job

2012-11-03 Thread John Reames
Direct expansion, as opposed to packaged... It's too small to worry about glycol and dry coolers... -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Nov 3, 2012, at 12:34, Max Dillon wrote: > Not sure what DX is, it's a split unit, not a package. > -- > Max Dil

Re: [MBZ] Todays job

2012-11-03 Thread John Reames
Depends on whether you own 'em or service 'em. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Nov 3, 2012, at 12:36, Max Dillon wrote: > Also not tracking your comparison with Carrier, is that good or bad? > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '95 E300 > '87 300

Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter

2012-11-03 Thread Tim C
On Nov 3, 2012 10:52 AM, "Dan Penoff" wrote: > > Not a good place for peace and quiet, as she discovered on Halloween night. All three local universities (total almost 90k students) celebrate Halloween on Franklin Street. That should not be considered representative of the Chapel Hill experience

Re: [MBZ] Backup car back in service

2012-11-03 Thread WILTON
That's the way I usually do it, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Jim Cathey" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Backup car back in service As usual for me getting the air out is a bastard. I pour the coolant into t

Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter

2012-11-03 Thread Tim C
On Nov 3, 2012 10:41 AM, "WILTON" wrote: > > 'Need to visit the Republik soon, myself, to take # 1 grndson to lunch, etc. He especially likes Carrboro. Speaking of, are you available around noon next Friday? I've tentatively scheduled the trip to Wilson. Best, Tim __

Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter

2012-11-03 Thread WILTON
We may be in Charlotte. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Max Dillon" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter We may be in Asheville. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Rich Thomas wrote: I

Re: [MBZ] Todays job

2012-11-03 Thread Rich Thomas
I have on my dirtys now, fixin to go sand some sheetrock compound so I can get a head unit put in after that is done. funfunfun On a related note, I have this (pricey) fan control I thought I had fried back in the summer when I tested it out by plugging it into an extension cord. Heard a pop

Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter

2012-11-03 Thread Max Dillon
Then all three of us should get and wear that diversity shirt! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD WILTON wrote: >We may be in Charlotte. > >Wilton > >- Original Message - >From: "Max Dillon" >To: "Mercedes Discussion List" >Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 12:59 PM >Subj

Re: [MBZ] Todays job

2012-11-03 Thread Max Dillon
Ah, well given that the going local rate is $5k installed, if DIY lasts about ten years, I'll be happy. I paid $1600 for this unit. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD John Reames wrote: >Depends on whether you own 'em or service 'em. > >-- >John W Reames >jream...@verizon.net >Hom

Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter

2012-11-03 Thread WILTON
Fri, the 9th, yes; that'd be great! Where's the destination? In town, or out in countryside, suburbs? Wilton - Original Message - From: "Tim C" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter On Nov 3, 2012 10:41

Re: [MBZ] Todays job

2012-11-03 Thread Dan Penoff
Stulz compared to Liebert? Just caught that Dan >>> Also not tracking your comparison with Carrier, is that good or bad? >>> -- >>> Max Dillon >>> Charleston SC >>> '95 E300 >>> '87 300TD >>> >>> John Reames wrote: >>> Joy! Is it a DX unit or a package unit? (I'm presuming DX wi

Re: [MBZ] Todays job

2012-11-03 Thread Craig
On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 13:37:04 -0400 Dan Penoff wrote: > Stulz compared to Liebert? > > > > Just caught that How about explaining it for those of us who are in the dark Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Todays job

2012-11-03 Thread WILTON
A diversity of feelings - upset with self for "ruining" a good controller; elation at finding that it's still good, anyway, and not having to order over-priced replacement; regret for not checking it thoroughly earlier; disappointment in not knowing why it wouldn't work after the pop, etc. Wil

Re: [MBZ] Todays job

2012-11-03 Thread Dan Penoff
Sorry. Liebert is essentially the "gold standard" in the raised floor computer room/server farm environmental and electrical infrastructure. They make chillers and UPS systems that are probably used in 90% of the computer rooms in corporate America, if not worldwide. Stulz, well, suffice to s

Re: [MBZ] Todays job

2012-11-03 Thread WILTON
'Nother ATTABOY! I helped a heating/cooling technician/installer friend in Warner Robins, GA, install several heat pumps in '67/'68. When I moved to Raleigh in Jun '68, I bought a house that had gas-fired forced warm air heating system but did not have cooling. 'Friend in GA ordered cooling e

Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter

2012-11-03 Thread WILTON
'Just asked Grndson if he were there on Franklin St. this Halloween; yes, he was. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Tim C" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter On Nov 3, 2012 10:52 AM, "Dan Penoff" wr

Re: [MBZ] 240V

2012-11-03 Thread RELNGSON
> ...Is it OK to run a 240v device on a 25 amp breaker through two parallel > 14-2 NM > romex instead of one 10-2 NM?.. > Just place a smoke detector nearby. RLE > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list ar

Re: [MBZ] Todays job

2012-11-03 Thread Max Dillon
You're way ahead of me, haven't a clue who either are, guess I need to let Google educate me... -- Max Dillon, clueless Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Dan Penoff wrote: >Stulz compared to Liebert? > > > >Just caught that > >Dan > > > Also not tracking your comparison with Carrier, i

Re: [MBZ] Todays job

2012-11-03 Thread Max Dillon
I certainly do have THE permit that counts, signed by SWMBO!! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD WILTON wrote: >'Nother ATTABOY! >I helped a heating/cooling technician/installer friend in Warner >Robins, GA, >install several heat pumps in '67/'68. When I moved to Raleigh in Jun >'

Re: [MBZ] Todays job

2012-11-03 Thread Tim C
On Nov 3, 2012 1:20 PM, "John Reames" @ comcast.net > wrote: > > Depends on whether you own 'em or service 'em. A colleague frustrated the Goodman service guy, when a new valve failed under warranty... three times. (That is, two defective "new" valves direct from Goodman.) The problem wasn't repl

Re: [MBZ] Todays job

2012-11-03 Thread Mitch Haley
Dan Penoff wrote: Sorry. Liebert is essentially the "gold standard" in the raised floor computer room/server farm environmental and electrical infrastructure. They make chillers and UPS systems that are probably used in 90% of the computer rooms in corporate America, if not worldwide. Stulz

Re: [MBZ] Todays job

2012-11-03 Thread Mitch Haley
Tim C wrote: On Nov 3, 2012 1:20 PM, "John Reames" @ comcast.net > wrote: Depends on whether you own 'em or service 'em. A colleague frustrated the Goodman service guy, when a new valve failed under warranty... three times. (That is, two defective "new" valves direct from Goodman.) The proble

Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter with a camera on the dash

2012-11-03 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Dash cams are becoming more popular, as the cost of them drops and are handy in case of an accident. Particularly with truck drivers, as they are usually assumed to be in the wrong. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzxHvZaOLgU in this case it would be easy enough for the car driver to say that th

Re: [MBZ] Todays job

2012-11-03 Thread Mitch Haley
Mitch Haley wrote: The guys on HVAC-Talk bemoan the fact that there are no really good thermostatic expansion valves (TXVs) on the market now. Hmm, maybe not everybody says that. Here they seem to be saying that idiot technicians kill TXVs: http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/archive/index.php/t-150941.

Re: [MBZ] 240V

2012-11-03 Thread G Mann
Also, keep your cell phone charged and with you at all times and write your insurance agents number in ink on your arm... but.. go ahead... the Darwin Awards are always accepting new applications...;) Code books are cheapsuggest you want to own one. Grant... On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 3:2

Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter with a camera on the dash

2012-11-03 Thread G Mann
I've been looking at them and find several that have both front and rear facing cameras, both with GPS . speed information, time date stamp, etc recorded to a hard drive with hours of time available. Seems to me, it could be very handy to have, presuming you drive safely. If you speed or violate r

Re: [MBZ] Todays job

2012-11-03 Thread Gerry Archer
I've had good experience with Trane. One relay replaced. After 15 years, heat pump model is still cooling well. Dealer said Trane uses "off the shelf" parts, so Tranes are cheaper to repair. Gerry In RE: Carrier and Goodman: Goodman is good, cheap stuff. Maybe thinner cabinet metal and lo

Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter with a camera on the dash

2012-11-03 Thread clay monroe
The new cars come with tracking devices in the computer system. Insurance fellow comes out to see your car and plugs his laptop in. Downloads all sorts of data they then use to argue you are at fault so as not to pay up. The camera is a nice addition to refute or at least have something to po