Re: [MBZ] US government advises computer users to disable Java software

2013-01-14 Thread John Reames
Disabling Java is a non-starter for anyone doing business with the federal courts; Electronic Case Filing (ECF) is a Java web-app. Version 5.1 (which may still be out there) requires Java 6 (not 7!). (Version 5.2 adds support for Java 7) -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986

Re: [MBZ] The Dangerous list poster

2013-01-14 Thread Jon Agne
Best food was in Puerto de Santa Maria. On Jan 13, 2013, at 10:16 PM, Max Dillon wrote: > Yes, Rota is very nice, but more expensive now with the Euro. Some of my > favorite meals have been in Rota... > > Lajes was a cool place to visit for a couple days, stranded there for a but > during a

Re: [MBZ] ignition switch wires on 1984 300D turbo and other problem

2013-01-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
The wipers are switched to the ignition. Did they stop working after the MM change or after the ignition replacement? On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 10:52 PM, Rick Hawkins Java wrote: > Folks, > > If you remember, a month or so ago, i pulled the plug off of the back of the > ignition switch of Daughter

Re: [MBZ] Skiing

2013-01-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Will they grow back? If not what's the rehab like? On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:01 AM, Mike Esh wrote: > I broke the the little tabs (medical term) on the lower 4 lumbar vertebrae. > It's one place where the muscle that help support the lower back. > > > Michael E. Esh > 231-286-2344 > > > On Jan

[MBZ] A new Benz

2013-01-14 Thread Rich Thomas
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.574575162570517.142271.112336898794348&type=1 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery op

Re: [MBZ] A new Benz - CLA250

2013-01-14 Thread Chris James
It was rumored the revel of the '14 CLA would be part of the NAIAS, but there was an invitation only showing last night which was the only time it will make an appearance this week (in the US at least). We will have to wait until late summer or fall for it to hit dealerships here. The projec

Re: [MBZ] OT Range hood again

2013-01-14 Thread Randy Bennell
I will have a look in the "manual" that came with it. I think there may be a schematic of the wiring. Randy On 11/01/2013 4:51 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Any way you can get a schematic for it, even if it doesn't cover the circuit board? That would go a long way to determine whether or not it's r

Re: [MBZ] OT - another electrical question

2013-01-14 Thread Randy Bennell
That would work for me but I would have to come up with a new cover for the current set of switches as my good wife would not be pleased if it just had another switch. Randy On 11/01/2013 5:06 PM, clay monroe wrote: Bypass the board, go with a simple on/off switch for the lights at full power

Re: [MBZ] A new Benz

2013-01-14 Thread G Mann
Gwad that is ugly... who makes it? Surely it could not be a Mercedes. Looks like a Jap rice rocket or any other Eurotrash. To bad Mercedes stopped making cars. On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Rich Thomas < richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: > https://www.facebook.com/**media/set/?set=

Re: [MBZ] Skiing

2013-01-14 Thread Mike Esh
No they do not grow back, the pieces are still floating around in there. Rehab was exercising the back muscles that were still attached. Repercussions are a slightly weaker back, however the other muscles seem to have taken over pretty well. As I said earlier I was very lucky to have minimal inj

Re: [MBZ] A new Benz - CLA250

2013-01-14 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Jan 14, 2013 8:23 AM, "Chris James" wrote: > > The projected $30K starting price > sounds nice, maybe some of us will > finally be able to afford a new M-B > now! It's FWD, blech. Might as well buy a loaded Jetta diesel. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com Fo

Re: [MBZ] A new Benz

2013-01-14 Thread Rich Thomas
Hyundai seems pretty good at designing Benzes. --R On 1/14/13 12:19 PM, G Mann wrote: Gwad that is ugly... who makes it? Surely it could not be a Mercedes. Looks like a Jap rice rocket or any other Eurotrash. To bad Mercedes stopped making cars. On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Rich Thomas <

Re: [MBZ] A new Benz - CLA250

2013-01-14 Thread WILTON
STARTING at $30k; don't be surprised that the bottom line may be $50k or more. ;<) Wilton - Original Message - From: "Alex Chamberlain" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] A new Benz - CLA250 On Jan 14, 2013 8:23 AM, "Chris J

Re: [MBZ] A new Benz

2013-01-14 Thread ernest breakfield
how very Hyundai looking,... cheers! e On 14/Jan/13 07:52, Rich Thomas wrote: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.574575162570517.142271.112336898794348&type=1 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search

[MBZ] OT: RKBA

2013-01-14 Thread Greg Fiorentino
Ruger has a nice service on their site: http://www.ruger.com/micros/advocacy/takeAction.html Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or cha

Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

2013-01-14 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
I'm sorry, but I don't think this belongs on this list. Jaime On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: > > > Ruger has a nice service on their site: > > > > http://www.ruger.com/micros/advocacy/takeAction.html > > > > Greg > > ___ > http://www

Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

2013-01-14 Thread John Freer
And if it continues, I'm out of here! Sent from my iPad On Jan 14, 2013, at 4:08 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > I'm sorry, but I don't think this belongs on this list. > > Jaime > > > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Greg Fiorentino > wrote: > >> >> >> Ruger has a nice service on their

Re: [MBZ] Spiddy has a new job, aligning nozzles

2013-01-14 Thread Hendrik and fay
That's a good idea, although I don't think it's debris in the nozzle that is my problem. Hendrik who wants the official factory tool for aligning nozzles On 14/01/13 01:06, Gerry Archer wrote: '83 300D window washer kept spraying in the wrong direction and I found that it was debris coming fro

Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

2013-01-14 Thread Jon Agne
AGREE!!! On Jan 14, 2013, at 7:08 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > I'm sorry, but I don't think this belongs on this list. > > Jaime > > > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Greg Fiorentino > wrote: > >> >> >> Ruger has a nice service on their site: >> >> >> >> http://www.ruger.com/micro

Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

2013-01-14 Thread Max Dillon
Why not propose / suggest a site that represents your point of view? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 John Freer wrote: >And if it continues, I'm out of here! > >Sent from my iPad > >On Jan 14, 2013, at 4:08 PM, Jaime Kopchinski >wrote: > >> I'm sorry, but I don't

Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

2013-01-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
If you think more gun control is going to fix anything you probably need to be out of here. I have a loaded gun in every room of my house, in every car, carry at least one loaded gun with me at all times. I also have thousands of rounds of ammo. That link probably should not have been posted in

Re: [MBZ] O/T You Want Me to Land Where?!..

2013-01-14 Thread Mountain Man
Craig wrote: > I noticed, though, that we have gone from having to have something that's > 41 kB approved to having something that's 9.67 MB come straight to the > list without having a link at the bottom of the sender's email. I forwarded the video to someone else by finding it at youtube via goo

[MBZ] CL Rip off of the week

2013-01-14 Thread clay monroe
http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/ctd/3465757848.html Saw this at the auction last month. Rolling bucket of junk. Rust, mold, stink and deferred care. Valve cover seal was silicone from a squirt tube. A bunch of other questionable issues. I do not think much work has been put into this.

Re: [MBZ] A new Benz

2013-01-14 Thread Gerry Archer
I wonder how it's drag force compares to other production cars? If the shape of the body lowers drag, its unique shape might be worthwhile. Couldn't find that spec anywhere. Gerry From: "ernest breakfield" how very Hyundai looking,... cheers! e On 14/Jan/13 07:52, Rich Thomas wrote: https

Re: [MBZ] Skiing

2013-01-14 Thread Gerry Archer
Did you hit the tree face first or back first? Gerry From: "Mike Esh" No they do not grow back, the pieces are still floating around in there. Rehab was exercising the back muscles that were still attached. Repercussions are a slightly weaker back, however the other muscles seem to have taken

Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

2013-01-14 Thread Jon Agne
On Jan 14, 2013, at 7:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > If you think more gun control is going to fix anything you probably need to > be out of here. I have a loaded gun in every room of my house, in every car, > carry at least one loaded gun with me at all times. I also have thousands of > ro

Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

2013-01-14 Thread Greg Fiorentino
Jaime, John and Jon: And any others who feel the same. This was labeled as OT, and even had a descriptive title indicating exactly what would be in the post. I have in the past noted an interest in firearms by some of the list members. If it does not pertain to you, you didn't even have to open

Re: [MBZ] A new Benz

2013-01-14 Thread Chris James
It certainly is a departure from traditional Mercedes styling (I think one article I read said the new CLA had a better drag coefficient then the Prius), but it's growing on me. Of course nothing will compare to the iconic W201/W124/W126's. On 1/14/2013 8:15 PM, Gerry Archer wrote: I wonde

Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

2013-01-14 Thread buymbparts
I certainly agree. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: "Greg Fiorentino" Sender: "Mercedes" Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:40:34 To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA Jaime, John and Jon:

Re: [MBZ] A new Benz

2013-01-14 Thread Gerry Archer
If it should come out later with a diesel engine, a hybrid battery, and get 50+ mpg, Chris, I'd be in the market for one; but don't hold your breath until that happens. Gerry From: "Chris James" It certainly is a departure from traditional Mercedes styling (I think one article I read said the

Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

2013-01-14 Thread Jon Agne
FWIWI believe I believe in the 1st and 2nd, as well as all of the others. I also own several weapons of various calibre, and have no desire to confiscate anyone else's firearms. Best, Jon On Jan 14, 2013, at 8:40 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: > Jaime, John and Jon: > > And any others wh

Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

2013-01-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I would worry myself sick that the wrong person might get a hold one one of them. On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > If you think more gun control is going to fix anything you probably need to > be out of here. I have a loaded gun in every room of my house, in every car,

Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

2013-01-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Cool. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 14, 2013, at 8:28 PM, Jon Agne wrote: > FWIWI believe I believe in the 1st and 2nd, as well as all of the others. > I also own several weapons of various calibre, and have no desire to > confiscate anyone else's firearms. > > Best, > > Jon > > > On

Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

2013-01-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I'm not. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 14, 2013, at 8:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > I would worry myself sick that the wrong person might get a hold one > one of them. > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: >> If you think more gun control is going to fix anything you

[MBZ] wtb: 1987 300D fuel injector line #4

2013-01-14 Thread Rolf
Mine is spritzing up and out at the injector. Anyone got one or a set for sale? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go

Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

2013-01-14 Thread Jon Agne
Greg, BTW, you are right...it was labeled OT. Mea Culpa. I have friends in Newtown, and I jumped the gun...so to speak. Jon On Jan 14, 2013, at 9:28 PM, Jon Agne wrote: > FWIWI believe I believe in the 1st and 2nd, as well as all of the others. > I also own several weapons of various

Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

2013-01-14 Thread ernest breakfield
and in those cases, if you don't have one yourself, what you want is for the Right person to have one. isn't it clear enough yet that trying to keep guns out of the hands of good people isn't keeping them out of the hands of bad people? cheers! e Berkeley, CA On 14/Jan/13 18:29, Andrew

Re: [MBZ] A new Benz

2013-01-14 Thread ernest breakfield
fair point, and i understand how working everything through the wind tunnel to reduce the C_d is a Good Thing for the highway mileage (that most people don't do much of),.. but it seems it shouldn't have to come out looking so ugly. cheers! e On 14/Jan/13 17:15, Gerry Archer wrote: I wonder

Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

2013-01-14 Thread Max Dillon
How well is your young soon shooting? Believe I was about eight or ten when I finally was allowed to "plink" at tin cans with a Crossman pellet gun. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: >I'm not. > >Sent from my iPhone > >On Jan 14, 2013,

Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

2013-01-14 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I'm not. Heck, there's probably 50 cars at your house. What if the wrong person got a hold of one of THEM? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.

Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

2013-01-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
He is 4 thinking about hooking him up with a 22 pretty soon Sent from my iPhone On Jan 14, 2013, at 9:12 PM, Max Dillon wrote: > How well is your young soon shooting? Believe I was about eight or ten when > I finally was allowed to "plink" at tin cans with a Crossman pellet gun. > > -- > Ma

Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

2013-01-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I think more people with cars have killed other people than people with guns have killed other people, just a thought Sent from my iPhone On Jan 14, 2013, at 9:17 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: >> I'm not. > > Heck, there's probably 50 cars at your house. > What if the wron

Re: [MBZ] A new Benz

2013-01-14 Thread Gerry Archer
Having owned a 110 ('67 200D), I don't mind driving an ugly Mercedes so long as it provides dependable, economic transportation. Gerry From: "ernest breakfield" fair point, and i understand how working everything through the wind tunnel to reduce the C_d is a Good Thing for the highway mileage

Re: [MBZ] wtb: 1987 300D fuel injector line #4

2013-01-14 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jan 14, 2013, at 8:38 PM, "Rolf" wrote: > Mine is spritzing up and out at the injector. Anyone got one or a set for > sale? Didn't have them clamped, eh? Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz

Re: [MBZ] wtb: 1987 300D fuel injector line #4

2013-01-14 Thread Dieselhead
Q does. 800 741 5252 How are the clips securing the lines? Broken or missing clips mean broken inj lines. sooner or later. Mine is spritzing up and out at the injector. Anyone got one or a set for sale? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and u

Re: [MBZ] A new Benz

2013-01-14 Thread G Mann
Some wind tunnel data I've seen, which came out of Wright Patterson so I tend to believe it, says below 50 MPH drag force on a car is not really a factor. Certainly, in rush hour, start stop, it is not, At sustained speed above 50 MPH the drag factor increases with speed to the point that it become

Re: [MBZ] Spiddy has a new job, aligning nozzles

2013-01-14 Thread OK Don
It's called a peice of piano wire, the size od the nozzle - insert - point where you want the spray, remove wire. On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Hendrik and fay wrote: > That's a good idea, although I don't think it's debris in the nozzle that > is my problem. > > Hendrik > who wants the offic

Re: [MBZ] O/T You Want Me to Land Where?!..

2013-01-14 Thread OK Don
Did anyone have a problem with the attached video? I didn't --- On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:09 PM, Mountain Man wrote: > Craig wrote: > > I noticed, though, that we have gone from having to have something that's > > 41 kB approved to having something that's 9.67 MB come straight to the > > list wi

Re: [MBZ] Spiddy has a new job, aligning nozzles

2013-01-14 Thread clay monroe
http://www.ebay.com/itm/290844082041?item=290844082041&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME:L:LCA:MOTORS:1123&vxp=mtr bid up now clay On Jan 14, 2013, at 7:50 PM, OK Don wrote: > It's called a peice of piano wire, the size od the nozzle - insert - point > where you want the spray, remove wire. > > On Mon

Re: [MBZ] A new Benz

2013-01-14 Thread OK Don
It looks a lot like a VW CC - whose CoD is 0.28 - same as the 1986 W124 sedan. My how the rest finally catch-up. Yes, at highway speeds, CoD does make a difference. I've seen the fuel consumption go from 40mpg to 50mpg on my commute home, depending on traffic and head/tail wind. A 30 MPH wind can c

Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

2013-01-14 Thread Brian Toscano
I would not be offended if the easily offended people unsubscribed from the list. Should be treated no different than reading about Randy's oven hood, Craig's postings about a job search involving religious universities, or the paneling in Curt's home. On Monday, January 14, 2013, Kaleb C. Stripl

Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

2013-01-14 Thread G Mann
I'll join in this thread simply because my family came to this country in 1731, fought the war of independence, and were part of the group that ratified the Constitution. A member of my family has defended this Country in every conflict to date, so I feel I do have skin in this game. There is a sp

Re: [MBZ] Spiddy has a new job, aligning nozzles

2013-01-14 Thread Craig
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:03:43 -0800 clay monroe wrote: > http://www.ebay.com/itm/290844082041?item=290844082041&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME:L:LCA:MOTORS:1123&vxp=mtr I thought the thread was about window washer nozzles. Are you hijacking it? Craig ___ http://

Re: [MBZ] O/T You Want Me to Land Where?!..

2013-01-14 Thread Craig
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 21:51:44 -0600 OK Don wrote: > Did anyone have a problem with the attached video? I didn't --- I didn't either; I just thought the change was more dramatic than we had asked for. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts g

Re: [MBZ] O/T You Want Me to Land Where?!..

2013-01-14 Thread OK Don
It was - I was asking if there was any negative effect on one of the list members - On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:27 PM, Craig wrote: > On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 21:51:44 -0600 OK Don wrote: > > > Did anyone have a problem with the attached video? I didn't --- > > I didn't either; I just thought the cha

Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

2013-01-14 Thread Dieselhead
Well said Mr. Mann. http://www.usrepeals.org/ca/mtbpers/hoplophobia.html I'll join in this thread simply because my family came to this country in 1731, fought the war of independence, and were part of the group that ratified the Constitution. A member of my family has defended this Country

Re: [MBZ] O/T You Want Me to Land Where?!..

2013-01-14 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jan 14, 2013, at 10:28 PM, "OK Don" wrote: > It was - I was asking if there was any negative effect on one of the list > members - Probably Philip, who originally asked for the cap to be raised. Oops. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

[MBZ] Very OT: Ban the Doctors!

2013-01-14 Thread Dieselhead
facts: Ban the doctors! Using the same logic hyped by celebrities, politicians, and self-appointed do-gooders, doctors and other medical professionals should be banned. You are almost 9 times more likely to be killed by a doctor than by a firearm. Here are the facts: Firearm homicides

Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

2013-01-14 Thread Dieselhead
I would not be offended if the easily offended people unsubscribed from the list. Should be treated no different than reading about Randy's oven hood, Craig's postings about a job search involving religious universities, or the paneling in Curt's home. I am offended!It is offensive that som

Re: [MBZ] O/T You Want Me to Land Where?!..

2013-01-14 Thread Dieselhead
Did anyone have a problem with the attached video? I didn't --- I did! Makes the viewer seasick! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change deli

Re: [MBZ] Spiddy has a new job, aligning nozzles with a 4850-1

2013-01-14 Thread Hendrik and fay
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HAZET-4850-1-Nozzle-Adjusting-Tool-/180972607113?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a22ced689 Only 10 bucks but shipping is making me cry. Hendrik who can buy a box of beer for 40 bucks On 15/01/13 14:33, clay monroe wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/290844082041?item=

Re: [MBZ] OT GUN: RKBA

2013-01-14 Thread Hendrik and fay
My question is what would the outcome be if someone posted a link to a website where you can sign up to support gun control? Anyway whatever happens it's nothing to do with me, we got our gun control last century. Has it worked? Well there have been no more massacre type events (although the con

Re: [MBZ] OT GUN: RKBA

2013-01-14 Thread Greg Fiorentino
Hendrik: I have a dearly loved Sister-in-Law who can't help reposting screeds of fever-swamp left-wing websites. After the first few I stopped responding with logic and facts and simply hid her objectionable posts. If someone on the list whose comments I valued posted occasional illogical and un