Re: [MBZ] It starts in Park

2013-04-22 Thread Jim Cathey
Axle issues. The pip has moved from the indent. I was thinking of using a tiny nut, glued to the plate, to give the shaft a home. I think you will find that you only have a pip of the axle left, the rest broke off. That's what I drill down into, and replace with a pin. I use a pin vise to ho

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Gun Ownership

2013-04-22 Thread Scott Ritchey
I think two points are worth making: One: A firearm may be an important element in home protection but it's seldom the most important part. Planning is the most important part. But firearms become more important in rural areas, areas without nearby neighbors, and in cases where physical limita

Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread dseretakis
Awesome job! Sent from my iPhone On Apr 21, 2013, at 11:37 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > The Mercedes Martha Stewart has returned with a vengeance! > > See the results of Martha's attack on the finish of the S500, which was so > bad according to one detailing shop that, "You're wasting your money t

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Gun Ownership

2013-04-22 Thread Dieselhead
Mr. Mann Sez: Emmm.. faulty thinking... sorry to break the news to you.. but I don't own a gun to "protect you".. I own a gun, if I own one, to "Protect Me and those of my Family". You and those like you who are unable to protect yourself die first.. that is how nature works. You have a front doo

Re: [MBZ] Empty engine bay.

2013-04-22 Thread Craig
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 23:31:31 -0400 Rolf wrote: > Time for some spring cleaning Was there supposed to be a picture attached? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/a

Re: [MBZ] repair climate control unit

2013-04-22 Thread Dieselhead
I'll accept that. However, I have never seen proof that the final paragraph is wrong. I have seen lots of evidence that supports it. I was ok with this until the last gratuitous paragraph. On Apr 22, 2013 10:05 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: Want to tackle my ACC module via

[MBZ] Empty engine bay.

2013-04-22 Thread Rolf
Time for some spring cleaning ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/merc

Re: [MBZ] OT: shot Down in Flames gun propaganda!

2013-04-22 Thread Fmiser
> > > WILTON wrote: > > > Possibly, but how can I post the entire 5 pages without > > > having all of it in the main body of the post? I can > > > easily post it, but it's a bit long, isn't it? > > Mitch Haley wrote: > > > > I suppose you could attach it as a .txt file, if the list > > software

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Gun Ownership

2013-04-22 Thread G Mann
WILTON wrote: > How many people in those purple areas have humpteen guns each to "make up" > for those of us who have none? > Emmm.. faulty thinking... sorry to break the news to you.. but I don't own a gun to "protect you".. I own a gun, if I own one, to "Protect Me and those of my Family". You

Re: [MBZ] repair climate control unit

2013-04-22 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I was ok with this until the last gratuitous paragraph. On Apr 22, 2013 10:05 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > Want to tackle my ACC module via mail order? Will barter for home made >> jalapeno pepper jelly, made with my organically grown non-partisan hot and >> sweet peppers and o

Re: [MBZ] OT: shot Down in Flames gun propaganda!

2013-04-22 Thread WILTON
I sent 'em as photos; awaiting list mom's approval. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 8:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: shot Down in Flames gun propaganda! WILTON wrote: Possibly, but how can I post the entire

Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread Dieselhead
That's amazing work... But I'd have driven it around with half the hood polished for a few days, just to see people react. Best, Tim Yabbut, Dan is confined to the barracks for a while. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.co

Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread Tim Crone
That's amazing work... But I'd have driven it around with half the hood polished for a few days, just to see people react. Best, Tim On Apr 21, 2013 11:37 PM, "Dan Penoff" wrote: > The Mercedes Martha Stewart has returned with a vengeance! > > See the results of Martha's attack on the finish of

Re: [MBZ] MBZ Re: It starts in Park

2013-04-22 Thread Dieselhead
I'm wondering about a five-speed transmission, drive shaft, and differential for my '95 E300... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 clay wrote: You are most welcome. And now I think we all have found a source for bits and bobs that are not available on our side of

Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread Dieselhead
That is amazing. Can you put together a list of all the products you use, when to use them etc? he could, but maybe then he'd have to snuff you out. Gotta protect the knowledge ya know... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okieb

Re: [MBZ] repair climate control unit

2013-04-22 Thread Dieselhead
Want to tackle my ACC module via mail order? Will barter for home made jalapeno pepper jelly, made with my organically grown non-partisan hot and sweet peppers and other natural resources. That is funny! I applaud your production and use of "non-partisan" peppers! ( this is intended as a tru

Re: [MBZ] MBZ Re: It starts in Park

2013-04-22 Thread Max Dillon
I'm wondering about a five-speed transmission, drive shaft, and differential for my '95 E300... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 clay wrote: >You are most welcome. > >And now I think we all have found a source for bits and bobs that are >not available on our side

Re: [MBZ] OT: shot Down in Flames gun propaganda!

2013-04-22 Thread WILTON
I can probably make it a PDF. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Craig" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 8:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: shot Down in Flames gun propaganda! On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 20:33:36 -0400 Mitch Haley wrote: WILTON wrote: > Possibly,

[MBZ] Before and After

2013-04-22 Thread Dan Penoff
Here are before and after pictures of the S500 hood from the finish recovery project: Before: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7lkmreuonj2tfd8/S500%20Hood%20Before.jpg After: https://www.dropbox.com/s/2hrh8552j5c4qzs/S500%20Hood%20After.jpg Do note that the "after" picture was done at night with some

Re: [MBZ] OT: shot Down in Flames gun propaganda!

2013-04-22 Thread Craig
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 20:33:36 -0400 Mitch Haley wrote: > WILTON wrote: > > Possibly, but how can I post the entire 5 pages without having all of > > it in the main body of the post? I can easily post it, but it's a > > bit long, isn't it? > > > > I suppose you could attach it as a .txt file, if

Re: [MBZ] OT: shot Down in Flames gun propaganda!

2013-04-22 Thread Mitch Haley
WILTON wrote: Possibly, but how can I post the entire 5 pages without having all of it in the main body of the post? I can easily post it, but it's a bit long, isn't it? I suppose you could attach it as a .txt file, if the list software would host it as a link like it does with pictures.

Re: [MBZ] OT: shot Down in Flames gun propaganda!

2013-04-22 Thread WILTON
Possibly, but how can I post the entire 5 pages without having all of it in the main body of the post? I can easily post it, but it's a bit long, isn't it? Wilton - Original Message - From: "clay" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 8:17 PM Subject: Re: [MB

Re: [MBZ] MBZ Re: It starts in Park

2013-04-22 Thread clay
You are most welcome. And now I think we all have found a source for bits and bobs that are not available on our side of the waters. Anybody else wondering if Howard could be cajoled into take a few moments from his tedious, (less so now) Mondays in future to gather parts from a knacker in his

Re: [MBZ] OT: shot Down in Flames gun propaganda!

2013-04-22 Thread clay
A very good piece that I think the group might be able to appreciate. clay On Apr 22, 2013, at 7:25 AM, WILTON wrote: > Clay, I just sent to you off-list a copy of a composition I finished recently > about bombing the jungle and other related ridiculous policies that prolonged > the Vietnam Wa

Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread Rusty Cullens
Sweet! I'll see what I can do. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Dan Penoff Sender: "Mercedes" Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 20:08:03 To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns! No, I would s

Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread Dan Penoff
No, I would say maybe 12-15 hours for someone who knows what they are doing. If your 560 isn't as bad as my S500, less than that Send it down to me for a week or two and I'll sort it out. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 22, 2013, at 6:08 PM, "Rusty Cullens" wrote: > My 1991 560SEC looks very si

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Gun Ownership

2013-04-22 Thread Mitch Haley
WILTON wrote: 'Didn't know we were talking 'bout airguns - BB guns, one of which I have - and bows. 'Thought we were talking 'bout FIRE arms. Those I know how many I have. Thought about it when I was typing the last message, and it is a single digit number. Mitch. _

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Gun Ownership

2013-04-22 Thread WILTON
'Didn't know we were talking 'bout airguns - BB guns, one of which I have - and bows. 'Thought we were talking 'bout FIRE arms. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: Gun Ownership

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Gun Ownership

2013-04-22 Thread Mitch Haley
WILTON wrote: How many people in those purple areas have humpteen guns each to "make up" for those of us who have none? If I'd have to think about it for a couple of minutes to tell you the exact number of firearms, and would need to do a physical inventory if you wanted to know how many airg

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Gun Ownership

2013-04-22 Thread WILTON
How many people in those purple areas have humpteen guns each to "make up" for those of us who have none? Wilton - Original Message - From: "Gerry Archer" To: Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 4:36 PM Subject: [MBZ] Fw: Gun Ownership ___ http://ww

Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread Craig
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 15:46:55 -0400 Dan Penoff wrote: > That's what the Collinite 845 is. Well known in the detailing > business, Collinite 845 was originally designed to be used on high > voltage insulators, which have to be kept as clean as possible to > minimize collection of dirt which can al

[MBZ] The Chosen Few: A New Explanation of Jewish Success

2013-04-22 Thread Gerry Archer
Gerry wrote: Here is a long and interesting theory of why Jews have been so successful in many fields: .. (Excerpt) Why are the Jews, a relatively small population, specialized in the most skilled and economically profitable occupations? (An) "alliance" of historians and eco

[MBZ] The Good Life in Denmark

2013-04-22 Thread Gerry Archer
Denmark goes to work on lavish welfare perks COPENHAGEN, Denmark - It began as a stunt intended to prove that hardship and poverty still existed in small and wealthy Denmark, but it backfired. Visit a single mother of two on welfare, a liberal member of Parliament goaded a skeptical political opp

[MBZ] Koch brothers eye bid for Tribune papers

2013-04-22 Thread Gerry Archer
More newspapers may go conservative. Three years ago, Charles and David Koch, the billionaire industrialists and supporters of libertarian causes, held a seminar of like-minded, wealthy political donors at the St. Regis Resort in Aspen, Colo. They laid out a three-pronged, 10-year strategy to

Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread Rusty Cullens
My 1991 560SEC looks very similar to your car but not as bad, I was thinking of trying this route. So to do the while car we're looking at probably 48 hours? -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 1:44

Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
That is amazing. Can you put together a list of all the products you use, when to use them etc? On 4/21/2013 10:37 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: The Mercedes Martha Stewart has returned with a vengeance! See the results of Martha's attack on the finish of the S500, which was so bad according to one

Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread Dan Penoff
Correction. They do make reference to using the warm water bath in their literature as a "If you want it to be thinner." Trust me, you do. Dan On Apr 22, 2013, at 4:19 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > Google is your friend as always, but here is a link to their web site: > > http://www.collinite.com

Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread Dan Penoff
Google is your friend as always, but here is a link to their web site: http://www.collinite.com/automotive-wax/insulator-wax/ There is a technique to preparing it that is not discussed on their web site. It has a thick, almost gelatinous texture, which makes it tough to use right out of the bo

Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread WILTON
Maybe some of the rest of us would like to get some Collinite 845. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns! That's what the Collinite 845 is. Well known in the detailing bu

Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread Dan Penoff
That's what the Collinite 845 is. Well known in the detailing business, Collinite 845 was originally designed to be used on high voltage insulators, which have to be kept as clean as possible to minimize collection of dirt which can allow conductive paths on the surfaces. It's amazingly good s

Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread WILTON
I know you're gonna try to preserve it as long as you can with some good wax. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns! I doubt it. After talking to three or four "professio

[MBZ] MBZ Re: It starts in Park

2013-04-22 Thread Howard Fulford
Clay I chuckled out loud ! Thank you for cheering up an otherwise tedious Monday Howard Bath England '97 200E 5-speed manual, 110250 miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.

Re: [MBZ] Soldering - was: repair climate control unit

2013-04-22 Thread Fmiser
> Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > I do have a soldering iron but it is gathering dust. > Now, if the spirit moves, you could drop by and give me a > soldering lesson the next time you visit DC to see your son. Having a good soldering iron sure helps. I have tried a lot of low-priced soldering irons.

Re: [MBZ] repair climate control unit

2013-04-22 Thread Scott Ritchey
I did this job (ACC re-solder) in the past. The soldering is easy. The disassembly a little more challenging. One caution: be gentle with the old plastic as it gets brittle wit age and these parts are 20-40 years old. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz

Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread Greg Fiorentino
Pretty amazing looking! You have a right to be proud of this transformation! Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 8:37 PM To: Mercedes List Subject: [MBZ] Martha Returns! The Mercedes Martha St

Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread Dan Penoff
I doubt it. After talking to three or four "professional" detailer, and I use the term only to describe someone who is making a living doing this, none of them really seemed interested in recovery work. I suspect there is too much time required, and it's likely that someone who has a car in thi

Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread Rich Thomas
Unless you put up some more great stuff, don't change it on my account! --R On 4/22/13 2:12 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: You want I should change it to white? It's a template in iWeb I used for a long time. There are others, but they were all sort of from-froo and I just wanted something simple.

Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread Dan Penoff
You want I should change it to white? It's a template in iWeb I used for a long time. There are others, but they were all sort of from-froo and I just wanted something simple. Dan On Apr 22, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: > My curiosity on the black background is because it gives me a h

Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread Rich Thomas
My curiosity on the black background is because it gives me a headache (or eyeache maybe) after about 30sec of looking at a page like that. I just wondered if that was just me, or if some found it beneficial or liked it or something. I don't get it, thought maybe I was missing some deeper com

Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread Dan Penoff
1.) It took about 3-4 hours at a leisurely pace to do half of the hood. I'm doing the rest of it today between my Nurse Ratched duties. 2.) Whenever you want to bring me up. Got a car in mind? As for the black backgrounds on my web page, I've done it for many years. No particular reason, jus

Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread Rusty Cullens
2 questions. How long did this take? When are you coming to Atlanta? -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 11:37 PM To: Mercedes List Subject: [MBZ] Martha Returns! The Mercedes Martha Stewart has r

Re: [MBZ] It starts in Park

2013-04-22 Thread clay
Axle issues. The pip has moved from the indent. I was thinking of using a tiny nut, glued to the plate, to give the shaft a home. clay On Apr 21, 2013, at 7:54 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: > Quartz clocks have one of two problems: > > 1) bad capacitors > 2) broken axle on one of the plastic gears.

Re: [MBZ] repair climate control unit

2013-04-22 Thread Rich Thomas
I called my people and told them to get the jet warmed up, be there soon. --R (who learned his lesson with Sudden Discomfort many years ago) On 4/22/13 10:53 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I am too good a capitalist to do ths myself, Rich. I outsource or barter to take care of any needs I canno

Re: [MBZ] repair climate control unit

2013-04-22 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I am trying desperately to paint Rich as a stereotypical reactionary southerner. It isn't easy. On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: > a b**r or tumbler of Southern Comfort. >> > > I find that _I_ am more comfortable being pecked by the Turkey. > > :-) > > -- Jim > > > > > _

Re: [MBZ] repair climate control unit

2013-04-22 Thread Jim Cathey
a b**r or tumbler of Southern Comfort. I find that _I_ am more comfortable being pecked by the Turkey. :-) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubs

Re: [MBZ] repair climate control unit

2013-04-22 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I am too good a capitalist to do ths myself, Rich. I outsource or barter to take care of any needs I cannot fulfil with assurance/competence, or (more commomnly) for lack of time. I do have a soldering iron but it is gathering dust. Now, if the spirit moves, you could drop by and give me a solde

Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread Rich Thomas
That is quite amazing how well it improves. On another note, tell me why you select a black background for your web pages. --R On 4/21/13 11:37 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: The Mercedes Martha Stewart has returned with a vengeance! See the results of Martha's attack on the finish of the S500, whi

Re: [MBZ] repair climate control unit

2013-04-22 Thread WILTON
I can vouch for the pepper jelly - mighty (Southern for very) fine! Wilton - Original Message - From: "Andrew Strasfogel" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] repair climate control unit Want to tackle my ACC module via mail order

Re: [MBZ] repair climate control unit

2013-04-22 Thread Rich Thomas
Why don't you do it yourself? Not that hard, and a good learning experience. --R On 4/22/13 10:17 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Want to tackle my ACC module via mail order? Will barter for home made jalapeno pepper jelly, made with my organically grown non-partisan hot and sweet peppers and

Re: [MBZ] OT: shot Down in Flames gun propaganda!

2013-04-22 Thread WILTON
Clay, I just sent to you off-list a copy of a composition I finished recently about bombing the jungle and other related ridiculous policies that prolonged the Vietnam War and led to having the names of more than 58000 brave, young Americans etched into that black granite wall of honor in DC.

Re: [MBZ] repair climate control unit

2013-04-22 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Want to tackle my ACC module via mail order? Will barter for home made jalapeno pepper jelly, made with my organically grown non-partisan hot and sweet peppers and other natural resources. On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 6:19 PM, WILTON wrote: > ATTABOY! > > Wilton > > - Original Message - From

Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread WILTON
I'd say that's worth at least half a dozen ATTABOYS! Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff" To: "Mercedes List" Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 11:37 PM Subject: [MBZ] Martha Returns! The Mercedes Martha Stewart has returned with a vengeance! See the results of Martha's atta

Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread Max Dillon
Very nice! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Dan Penoff wrote: >The Mercedes Martha Stewart has returned with a vengeance! > >See the results of Martha's attack on the finish of the S500, which was >so bad according to one detailing shop that, "You're wasting your m