[MBZ] 240D ?

2014-03-25 Thread Dieselhead
Anyone want to sell a good 81-83 OM616 engine? Or anyone want to buy an 83 240D in need of engine work? In OK. From what I can tell, it sounds like one of the oil cooler hoses broke and pumped the oil out. It may be repairable. Owner pulled over quickly when OP went down and shut down

Re: [MBZ] a question for dr fatty

2014-03-25 Thread Gary Hurst
i have no interest in keys. it's a PIA and nobody here would be buying them anyway On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 8:49 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I know this has been asked before but do not remember the result. Are you able to order the regular keys for 126, 124 etc with a copy

Re: [MBZ] 240D ?

2014-03-25 Thread Max Dillon
Which transmission type? -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All

Re: [MBZ] a question for dr fatty

2014-03-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I never have time to get to the dealer which is why I would like to order from jabba Sent from my iPhone On Mar 24, 2014, at 10:14 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes, got mine at the stealers, $35 (124.193 1987 300TD) Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred.

Re: [MBZ] a question for dr fatty

2014-03-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I would Sent from my iPhone On Mar 24, 2014, at 7:54 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i have no interest in keys. it's a PIA and nobody here would be buying them anyway On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 8:49 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I know this has been

Re: [MBZ] a question for dr fatty

2014-03-25 Thread Gary Hurst
how much key business can you promise me a year? On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I never have time to get to the dealer which is why I would like to order from jabba Sent from my iPhone On Mar 24, 2014, at 10:14 PM, Frederick Moir

Re: [MBZ] a question for dr fatty

2014-03-25 Thread Gary Hurst
why not just go to the dealer and give them 35 bucks and be done with like fred has done? On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I would Sent from my iPhone On Mar 24, 2014, at 7:54 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i have no interest in

Re: [MBZ] a question for dr fatty

2014-03-25 Thread Dan Penoff
My last key (a blade for the flip style IR key fob) was a whopping $10 from the dealer. It took more time to fill out the stupid paperwork than it did to get the key. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 25, 2014, at 9:03 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: why not just go to the dealer

Re: [MBZ] Fats driving

2014-03-25 Thread Dan Penoff
Was it used in the little 2 cycle Cox airplane engines? I remember that stuff stunk big time. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 25, 2014, at 10:33 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: ROFL!!! Hadn't heard that before. Seem to remember that castor oil and whale oil was

Re: [MBZ] Cool 96 E300 Diesel is hot

2014-03-25 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
On 3/23/2014 8:02 AM, Mitchell Haley, EA wrote: The way I am reading this you used some sort of penetrator fluid? Would this not cool off the plugs, thus defeating the purpose of the exercise in warming the plugs up to operating temp? I believe the idea was to have the aluminum head hot so that

Re: [MBZ] Fats driving

2014-03-25 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
ROFL!!! Hadn't heard that before. Seem to remember that castor oil and whale oil was used. As late as the (60s?) whale (sperm) oil was used in high performance engines of that era. Castor oil was used in race car engines of the '40s and '50s. I think the popular Offenhauser engines might

Re: [MBZ] 240D ?

2014-03-25 Thread Dieselhead
Which transmission type? -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC Auto trans ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Fats driving secretly

2014-03-25 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
When there were a lot of complaints about a member, the list owner was very astute. He would say that he never liked to ban anyone and then he would vote no as one of the moderators when the vote was taken. To this day, he's never been blamed for suspending a member even though he provided

Re: [MBZ] New Diesels available in the US now:

2014-03-25 Thread Randy Bennell
On 24/03/2014 9:01 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: Now that diesel is holding solid around 4 dollars a gallon. Buying a diesel is getting harder to monetarily justify. It's kind of ironic we suddenly have more choices. Bob R The TDI may still be a winner at close to 50 mpg as per Curt's experience.

Re: [MBZ] Fats driving

2014-03-25 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
Son had a couple of those glow plug engines, but I don't think castor oil was used or I would have remembered. That was a very pungent smell. Gerry On 3/25/2014 10:41 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Was it used in the little 2 cycle Cox airplane engines? I remember that stuff stunk big time. Dan

Re: [MBZ] People are generally holding onto no revolutions

2014-03-25 Thread Rich Thomas
It is not a technicality, it is how the universe works. Torque is a rotational force just like gravity is a linear force. Gravity makes your bags heavy and want to fall down at an increasing velocity. You can hold your bags and feel the force. Torque makes your twisties want to twist at an

Re: [MBZ] Fats driving

2014-03-25 Thread Mike Esh
When I was flying radio control airplanes I built a Dallaire Sportser. The wingspan was 9 feet and it flew like a big old kite. I put a size .40 diesel engine in it and used a 16 inch prop. I would take off into the wind and it would be off the ground in about 10 feet. Then you could

Re: [MBZ] New Diesels available in the US now:

2014-03-25 Thread Gary Hurst
if i had the coin, i'd get two VW tdi's. a bug convertible and a jetta wagon On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 24/03/2014 9:01 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: Now that diesel is holding solid around 4 dollars a gallon. Buying a diesel is getting harder

Re: [MBZ] Fats driving

2014-03-25 Thread Scott Ritchey
Glow fuel is a mixture if methanol and nitromethane (up to 30%). For two-cycle engines it also includes oil. From Wikipedia: Most model engines require oil to be included with the fuel as a lubricant since the engine has no independent oiling capability. Model engine fuel is typically 8-22%

Re: [MBZ] People are generally holding on

2014-03-25 Thread clay
And wind. We have wind, that the water people are mad about, since it makes hydro electrons less expensive and floods the grid with non salmon killing goodness clay On Mar 22, 2014, at 11:25 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: Most electricity is still generated from coal. In my State, it's something

[MBZ] OT Monster Bike (sorta)

2014-03-25 Thread Rich Thomas
http://gizmodo.com/this-monster-truck-trike-will-stop-you-from-sinking-on-1551228541 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] List Destruction

2014-03-25 Thread clay
+1 Cage match on Banned!! clay On Mar 23, 2014, at 7:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Well if Gary and the crew would fight it out on banned, they could all have at it all they want and we would get a good show. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 23, 2014, at 7:43 PM, Mountain Man

Re: [MBZ] OT Monster Bike (sorta)

2014-03-25 Thread Dan Penoff
I was thinking about Gary's lament about not being able to ride on the beach the other day when I saw this. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 25, 2014, at 3:00 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Fats driving

2014-03-25 Thread Gary Hurst
yes, the little cox engine for the plane on a string. how easily pleased we were back in the day! On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Was it used in the little 2 cycle Cox airplane engines? I remember that stuff stunk big time. Dan Sent from my iPad On

[MBZ] spade key no workee

2014-03-25 Thread Van Knutson
Just for shats giggles, I, for the first time since buying the car 4 yrs ago, put the spade key in the door instead of using electronic ingress as usual.  It fit but gave no inkling of turning / unlocking the car.   I confess testing the physical key in the door didn't occur to me @ time of

Re: [MBZ] Fats driving

2014-03-25 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
That sounds like the kind of model flying I would prefer to do, Mike. Never cared for flying the smaller models. The large deed restricted community where I live provides a field and a club for model flying, but they won't allow anything but battery operated models. Friend in Tallahassee who

Re: [MBZ] spade key no workee

2014-03-25 Thread Randy Bennell
On 25/03/2014 2:23 PM, Van Knutson wrote: Just for shats giggles, I, for the first time since buying the car 4 yrs ago, put the spade key in the door instead of using electronic ingress as usual. It fit but gave no inkling of turning / unlocking the car. I confess testing the physical key

Re: [MBZ] Fats driving

2014-03-25 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
From childhood in the '30s I seem to remember two kinds of castor oil; plain and odorless. The plain was a yellowish color and the odorless was colorless and cost more. Most of the kids I knew got a periodic dose which amazingly seemed to correspond with various kinds of bad behavior. My

Re: [MBZ] Fats electric flying

2014-03-25 Thread Rich Thomas
Quadcopter or hexacopter! --R On 3/25/14 3:32 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: The large deed restricted community where I live provides a field and a club for model flying, but they won't allow anything but battery operated models. Gerry ___

Re: [MBZ] People are generally holding on

2014-03-25 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
Takes one to know one. [:o) Gerry On 3/22/2014 5:02 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: DB= Douchebag:) Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2014, at 9:46 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Daimler-Benz? Probably would since there would be an MB star on the hood and a 300D

Re: [MBZ] New Diesels available in the US now:

2014-03-25 Thread kdwittne...@yahoo.com
Yes I recall an oil analyst about 15 years ago describing how converting more of the passenger fleet to diesel would not make economic sense because there is virtually no reserve refining capacity in North America so any increase in consumption of diesel would drive the price up and thereby

Re: [MBZ] OT Monster Bike (sorta)

2014-03-25 Thread Gary Hurst
yeah, i'd love to have one of those and ride it on the beach as a strength building exercise On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I was thinking about Gary's lament about not being able to ride on the beach the other day when I saw this. Dan Sent from my iPad

Re: [MBZ] New Diesels available in the US now:

2014-03-25 Thread Rich Thomas
Right now the US is exporting lots of diesel to Yurp. --R On 3/25/14 4:58 PM, kdwittne...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes I recall an oil analyst about 15 years ago describing how converting more of the passenger fleet to diesel would not make economic sense because there is virtually no reserve

Re: [MBZ] spade key no workee

2014-03-25 Thread Dan Penoff
Just order a new key from the dealer with your VIN. Cheap, and you'll be sure that it's the right key. NEVER, EVER put oil in a lock. You will make a mess of it for sure. Get a tube of graphite from your local hardware store, or rub a pencil lead all over the key (powered graphite works

Re: [MBZ] spade key no workee

2014-03-25 Thread Rich Thomas
What would you use to clean it out? carb cleaner or something that will evaporate (assuming it cleans out whatever gunk is in there)? --R On 3/25/14 5:23 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Just order a new key from the dealer with your VIN. Cheap, and you'll be sure that it's the right key. NEVER,

Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Turbo won't start

2014-03-25 Thread Rich Thomas
I have a dead one sitting here that I have been meaning to open up but have not done that yet. At worst you can open that one up and see if it is broken, burned out, dirty, etc. and either clean it up/fix it or junk it. --R On 3/25/14 3:49 PM, G. M. Brown wrote: My 1984 300D Turbo won't

Re: [MBZ] spade key no workee

2014-03-25 Thread Dan Penoff
Something that wouldn't leave resigoo. When I worked for the school district I spoke to one of our staff locksmiths (yes, the place was so big they had two locksmiths on staff full time.) I asked him about getting MB keys duped along with some other lock related questions. He said that WD-40

Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Turbo won't start

2014-03-25 Thread Dieselhead
My 1984 300D Turbo won't start, but there's a loud buzzing/groaning coming from the glow plug control relay box and the buzzing/groaning will stop if either of the two plugs to the glow plug control relay are unplugged. I'm assuming the problem is the glow plug control relay? Is there any

Re: [MBZ] New Diesels available in the US now:

2014-03-25 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
Reuters seems to think that Americas cold winter and Europes limited refining capacity has created a shortage that has driven up the current diesel prices in both areas: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/29/markets-europe-products-idUSL5N0L320J20140129 Gerry On 3/25/2014 4:58 PM,

Re: [MBZ] New Diesels available in the US now:

2014-03-25 Thread clay
We ship diesel to the EU. It is more profitable. Lots of the crude up north is going to Asia, since it is more profitable to Korea and Japan, than having west coast refiners make domestic fuel. clay On Mar 25, 2014, at 1:58 PM, kdwittne...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes I recall an oil analyst about

Re: [MBZ] 240D ?

2014-03-25 Thread Mountain Man
Dieselhead wrote: Anyone want to sell a good 81-83 OM616 engine? Your mao-616 still runs? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Cool 96 E300 Diesel is hot

2014-03-25 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Me thinks that aluminium and steel expands at different rates, not sure which does what. Hendrik who also expands On 26/03/14 01:31, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: On 3/23/2014 8:02 AM, Mitchell Haley, EA wrote: The way I am reading this you used some sort of penetrator fluid? Would this not

Re: [MBZ] spade key no workee

2014-03-25 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
Local semi-retired locksmith advised several years ago that WD-40 was the best lubricant for locks. I don't know if it affects a locks longevity, but since then a squirt in my locks has solved all problems. Gerry On 3/25/2014 5:23 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Just order a new key from the dealer

Re: [MBZ] spade key no workee in lockey

2014-03-25 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Have you tried the other locks? Do you have another key? As said, it's possible that someone fitted another ignition lock to your car. Also as said, spraying liquid in there will turn the crud into crud mud and may well make things worse. The problem is the crud has to come out somehow and the

Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Turbo won't start

2014-03-25 Thread Hendrik and Fay
I had a failed relay in a Nissan years back, by passed it so it was old school push button to glow. That is a drastic and cheap solution. Hendrik who has mostly direct injection Diesels but a couple need to glow On 26/03/14 06:19, G. M. Brown wrote: My 1984 300D Turbo won't start, but there's

Re: [MBZ] spade key no workee in theory

2014-03-25 Thread Hendrik and Fay
It depends on the lock design I think, as I said if the gunk has no where to go it will turn into liquid gunk and get into all the tiny crevices. General consensus is that if you need lubricant to help operate the lock, the lock is close to failing completely. Ignition locks being the most

Re: [MBZ] spade key no workee

2014-03-25 Thread Mountain Man
Gerry wrote: Local semi-retired locksmith advised several years ago that WD-40 was the best lubricant for locks. How about Dri-Slide which has carrier that evaporates and graphite? We used to use it repairing Schwinn bikes - used it for brake and derailleur cables. mao

Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Turbo won't start

2014-03-25 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
Gary got me one at a very reasonable price for my 300D that has worked flawlessly. Gerry On 3/25/2014 5:29 PM, Dieselhead wrote: My 1984 300D Turbo won't start, but there's a loud buzzing/groaning coming from the glow plug control relay box and the buzzing/groaning will stop if either of the

Re: [MBZ] New Diesels available in the US now:

2014-03-25 Thread Larry T
I assume the price of Diesel is due to less refineriescommitted to making diesel? Which I assume is because of the difficulty getting construction and operating permits? Sincerely, Larry On 3/25/2014 11:50 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: if i had the coin, i'd get two VW tdi's. a bug convertible

Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Turbo won't start

2014-03-25 Thread Dwight Giles
Yes my 240D (now curt's) has a push button for GP's. I kind of liked it. Reminded me of late 49's early 50's starter buttons. On Mar 25, 2014 7:40 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: I had a failed relay in a Nissan years back, by passed it so it was old school push button to glow.

Re: [MBZ] Fats driving

2014-03-25 Thread Mitchell Haley, EA
When I was flying radio control airplanes I built a Dallaire Sportser. Craig and Shirley need to meet Esh when they drive back up to Jerry Ford's airstrip. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] spade key no workee in lockey

2014-03-25 Thread G Mann
I have had great success with a product called TriFlo. It is a mixture of teflon particles and a liquid carrier agent in a spray can, the liquid evaporates leaving the tiny teflon particles behind to lubricate. The advantage is, it leaves nothing to collect or attract dirt and dust. The liquid

Re: [MBZ] a question for dr fatty

2014-03-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
At least 2 a year Sent from my iPhone On Mar 25, 2014, at 8:04 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: how much key business can you promise me a year? On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I never have time to get to the dealer which is why

[MBZ] OT Russian gas boom

2014-03-25 Thread Hendrik and Fay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG1LGKieTxY#t=35 Now I'll be a bit more nervous when I see one of those gas bottle trucks. Hendrik who takes some care when transporting the BBQ bottles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Turbo won't start

2014-03-25 Thread Jim Cathey
My 1984 300D Turbo won't start, but there's a loud buzzing/groaning coming from the glow plug control relay box and the buzzing/groaning will stop if either of the two plugs to the glow plug control relay are unplugged. I'm assuming the problem is the glow plug control relay? First check

Re: [MBZ] Fats driving

2014-03-25 Thread Scott Ritchey
http://pt709.synology.me/DSCF0543.JPG http://pt709.synology.me/DSCF0545.JPG You can fly anything in our unrestricted rural area. Links to photos of motorized parachute above. The transport trailer is in the foreground of the first photo. The runway is just a closely-mowed strip in my

Re: [MBZ] List Destruction

2014-03-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Fight fight fight, let's get Trent in on it also. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 25, 2014, at 2:08 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: +1 Cage match on Banned!! clay On Mar 23, 2014, at 7:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Well if Gary and the crew would fight it out on banned, they

Re: [MBZ] New Diesels available in the US now:

2014-03-25 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
The price of diesel is reflective of the price of heating oil, or it used to be. We've had a cold winter in the East so lots of heating oil was consumed, and our diesel prices reflect that. Today we had the latest mostest snow I can remember (2 -3 in my back yard). On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:02

Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Turbo won't start

2014-03-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I don't think I have any left Sent from my iPhone On Mar 25, 2014, at 4:29 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: My 1984 300D Turbo won't start, but there's a loud buzzing/groaning coming from the glow plug control relay box and the buzzing/groaning will stop if either of the two

Re: [MBZ] Fats driving

2014-03-25 Thread OK Don
Yes. On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Was it used in the little 2 cycle Cox airplane engines? I remember that stuff stunk big time. Dan -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men:

Re: [MBZ] New Diesels available in the US now:

2014-03-25 Thread OK Don
Diesel is the same price as premium gas here. You have to remember that the fuel markets are world markets, not local, not US. A cold winter in the EU will also drive up Diesel costs. On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: The price of diesel is