[MBZ] The accident that could have changed history

2014-06-12 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
Nuclear bomb nearly detonated after falling on North Carolina – declassified report In a scenario that could’ve been extremely devastating, the United States narrowly averted a nuclear disaster in 1961 when an atomic bomb nearly detonated after falling out of a B-52 bomber that broke up in t

Re: [MBZ] 123 parts car eastern Sd

2014-06-12 Thread Mitch Haley
Andrew Strasfogel wrote: You forgot to mention the model year (it matters). Clearly a 1982-85 300D. Beyond that, you'll need better eyes than mine or more info. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] The accident that could have changed history

2014-06-12 Thread Tim Crone
-- Forwarded message -- From: WILTON Date: Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Bombing Goldsboro To: Mercedes Discussion List 'Nother case of an author filling in gaps in his "knowledge" with his imagination. No release lever was "triggered," and there was no suc

Re: [MBZ] The accident that could have changed history

2014-06-12 Thread Rich Thomas
That was Mars Hill, right? Yeah, this story is quite a bit of fantasy. --R On 6/12/14 10:01 AM, Tim Crone wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: WILTON Date: Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Bombing Goldsboro To: Mercedes Discussion List 'Nother case of an

Re: [MBZ] The accident that could have changed history

2014-06-12 Thread WILTON
Mars Hill is another case entirely - even a B-47, I think. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The accident that could have changed history That was Mars Hill, right? Yeah, this s

Re: [MBZ] 123 parts car eastern Sd

2014-06-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I am not being all that anal; the 1985 MY has special features and a lot of parts unique to that year, such as the transmission and turbocharger. Otherwise, the tachometer became electronic in 1985 so they lack the screw in gizmo that always fails in hte earlier models... On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at

[MBZ] The accident that could have changed history

2014-06-12 Thread WILTON
Here we go again. Because errors and misinformation about the accidental release of two nuclear weapons near Faro, NC, ("The Goldsboro Broken Arrow") have persisted for more than 53 years and seem to be fed by some writers' imagination and what they may have seen in some fictitious movie, such

Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

2014-06-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Check your spam folder. I had 11 messages waiting there. On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > I'm on a work trip to California, last week I gave training and I will > again Wed-Fri. Today and tomorrow I'm sitting in on a ProTools tech class. > ProTools is pretty much the stand

Re: [MBZ] The accident that could have changed history

2014-06-12 Thread WILTON
Thanks, Tim. Wilt - Original Message - From: "Tim Crone" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The accident that could have changed history -- Forwarded message -- From: WILTON Date: Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 4:44 PM Su

Re: [MBZ] 123 parts car eastern Sd

2014-06-12 Thread Rich Thomas
Are you sure the two issues are indistinct? --R On 6/12/14 10:33 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I am not being all that anal; the 1985 MY has special features and a lot of parts unique to that year, such as the transmission and turbocharger. Otherwise, the tachometer became electronic in 1985 so

Re: [MBZ] 123 parts car eastern Sd

2014-06-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
haha. I am unsure. On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Rich Thomas < richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: > Are you sure the two issues are indistinct? > > --R > > > On 6/12/14 10:33 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > >> I am not being all that anal; the 1985 MY has special features and a lot

Re: [MBZ] W124 Overheated

2014-06-12 Thread Larry Turner
Thx Max, I replaced the WP last night thinking that was the source - laying on my back in the garage makes it hard to find things like leaks. I went on a test drive and the leak was worse than ever! The good news was I never saw anything that looked like a bad head gasket. I will send o

Re: [MBZ] W124 Overheated

2014-06-12 Thread Larry Turner
Thx Jim and Wilton, isn't the t'stat supposed to Fail Closed?? I'll replace it to be sure though - Larry On 6/11/2014 8:37 AM, WILTON wrote: Me, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Jim Cathey" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [M

Re: [MBZ] W124 Overheated

2014-06-12 Thread Larry Turner
Jim & wilton sorry - i meant to say isn't the t'stat supposed to Fail Open? Larry On 6/11/2014 8:37 AM, WILTON wrote: Me, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Jim Cathey" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Overheated

Re: [MBZ] W124 Overheated

2014-06-12 Thread Larry Turner
Before I pull the WP i am going to run to the store and pick up a t'stat and gasket. Had to order a new WP gasket from MB dealer (here tomorrow) so I can take my time this afternoon pulling the WP... Just FYI - Larry On 6/12/2014 1:21 PM, Larry Turner wrote: Jim & wilton sorry - i mea

Re: [MBZ] 123 parts car eastern Sd

2014-06-12 Thread Karl Wittnebel
It is not a 1985, because I also have a 1985 and it is not identical. But it is a turbo so post 1982. On Jun 11, 2014 9:13 AM, "Andrew Strasfogel" wrote: > You forgot to mention the model year (it matters). > > > On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Karl Wittnebel > wrote: > > > Sorry I sent it from

Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

2014-06-12 Thread OK Don
And most of them were from Curt . . . On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > Check your spam folder. I had 11 messages waiting there. > > -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! "There are three kinds of men: The ones that lear

Re: [MBZ] W124 Overheated

2014-06-12 Thread OK Don
Coolant exits and re-enters the drivers side of the engine at the rear to pre-heat fuel and possible the windshield wiper fluid. IIRC, I was not impressed by the robustness of the connection to the block - you might check this area for a leak. It's at the rear of the left side of the engine. On T

Re: [MBZ] W124 Overheated

2014-06-12 Thread Larry T
Thx Don I'll take a look - especially since I was working in that area to disconnect the evaporator... It's strange that MB will over-engineer some things and go cheap on others I guess the bean counters are slicing and dicing... Larry On 6/12/2014 4:24 PM, OK Don wrote: Coolant exits

Re: [MBZ] W124 Overheated

2014-06-12 Thread Meade Dillon
Bingo! I'll wager $1 that the source is something disturbed in the evaporator work. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Jun 12, 2014 5:29 PM, "Larry T" wrote: > > Thx Don I'll take a look - especially since I was working in that area to disconnect the evaporator... ___

Re: [MBZ] W124 Overheated

2014-06-12 Thread Larry Turner
Don, Sorry if this is a duplicate - I'm moving between 2 computers -- One more thing -- i pulled the water pump and found the gasket was not seated -- it's a paper gasket and pretty thin but I followed the WSM and didn't use any sealant. That explains the leak. I will pick up a new one a

Re: [MBZ] W124 Overheated

2014-06-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Be sure to put a light coat of wheel bearing grease or something on the gasket to hold it in place on the pump while installing the pump Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 12, 2014, at 5:32 PM, Larry Turner wrote: > > Don, >Sorry if this is a duplicate - I'm moving between 2 computers -- > One m

Re: [MBZ] unloved volvo 805 turbo wagon

2014-06-12 Thread Hendrik and Fay
I really don't like east-west engines, utter pain to work on and why didn't you clean up the engine bay a bit? That would have taken 10 minutes or so. I bought my TE primarily because the engine bay looked tidy and someone had obviously cared for it mechanically. I do like the "This is a nice f

Re: [MBZ] W124 Overheated

2014-06-12 Thread Larry Turner
;-) On 6/12/2014 6:20 PM, Meade Dillon wrote: Bingo! I'll wager $1 that the source is something disturbed in the evaporator work. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Jun 12, 2014 5:29 PM, "Larry T" wrote: Thx Don I'll take a look - especially since I was working in that area to disconnect the e

Re: [MBZ] W124 Overheated

2014-06-12 Thread Larry Turner
Thanks Kaleb - I was trying to think of something I could use that would not do any damage or be next to impossible if I ever have to do this again.. Larry On 6/12/2014 7:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Be sure to put a light coat of wheel bearing grease or something on the gasket to hol

Re: [MBZ] leaky W124 Overheated

2014-06-12 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Generally if everything is 100% a thin gasket will do the job. With ordinary engineering you do need thicker gaskets and some sort of goo. Found this to be the case in Fords and such. Really depends on the quality of the build, what brand of WP are you using? I usually run very fine sandpaper ov

Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

2014-06-12 Thread Gary Hurst
More and more real email is ending up in my spam filter every day On Thursday, June 12, 2014, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > Check your spam folder. I had 11 messages waiting there. > > > On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Curt Raymond > wrote: > > > I'm on a work trip to California, last week I gave

Re: [MBZ] The accident that could have changed history

2014-06-12 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
Wilton wrote: "...Soon after the accident, SECDEF McNamara commented that all of the switches in the arming, fusing and firing systems but one had failed, and AND ONLY THAT ONE SWITCH HAD PREVENTED A NUCLEAR DETONATION. (At least twelve switches, timers and devices, actually, easily count

Re: [MBZ] W124 Overheated

2014-06-12 Thread OK Don
I have a can of a red permatex product that does seal gaskets, and though sticky enough to hold a gasket while you install it, doesn't get hard and is easy to remove after a year in operation - doesn't even tear the gasket on disassembly. I can get the name/number in the morning if you're interest

Re: [MBZ] The accident that could have changed history

2014-06-12 Thread WILTON
"- and if that switch had also become inoperative, " If it had FAILED at the right (wrong) time in such a manner to produce the same ARMED circuitry as if the RN had deliberately ARMED it. Again, NO switch failed or was inoperative. Wilt - Original Message - From: To: "M

Re: [MBZ] W124 Overheated

2014-06-12 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
That sounds like *Permatex* High-Temp *Red* Silicone Gasket Maker. I seem to remember some red Aircraft Permatex from years ago but I don't think it was silicone based. Gerry On 6/12/2014 10:15 PM, OK Don wrote: I have a can of a red permatex product that does se

Re: [MBZ] W124 Overheated

2014-06-12 Thread OK Don
No, this is not silicone based - it's a thin, brush-on product, and is an aviation product. On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:48 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com < arche...@embarqmail.com> wrote: > That sounds like *Permatex* High-Temp *Red* Silicone Gasket Maker. I seem > to remember some red Aircraft Per

Re: [MBZ] W124 Overheated

2014-06-12 Thread Scott Ritchey
Hylomar is another option that actually helps seal but is easily removed. > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Larry > Turner > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 7:55 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Overheated > > T

[MBZ] OT: Ford Diesels

2014-06-12 Thread Rick Knoble
Hi, I am going to go look at a diesel  '91 Ford truck with a no start condition tomorrow. It's for a Kaleb price. What should I look for?Thanks, Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz

Re: [MBZ] The accident that could have changed history

2014-06-12 Thread John Reames
Isn't one of the design "features" of the safeties called a strong-link/weak-link system? My (limited) understanding is that the "strong link" must be actuated to enable operation of the device, but that the actuation mechanism/electronics are designed so that they will break and prevent operat