Re: [MBZ] 123 part search

2021-08-14 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> Could a R107 strap work? ( not knowing, since I have not needed to do those > straps). From my PnP scrounging tours, the check straps for w115, 116, 123 > and 126 all looked very much alike. Never looked at a 116. IIRC 115 has had both types, the roller on leaf spring and the sliding ball

Re: [MBZ] 123 part search

2021-08-13 Thread Clay via Mercedes
Could a R107 strap work? ( not knowing, since I have not needed to do those straps). From my PnP scrounging tours, the check straps for w115, 116, 123 and 126 all looked very much alike. I did not get to scrounge many coupes. I do recall the w124 had different sort of check strap than

Re: [MBZ] 123 part search

2021-08-13 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Good idea! Be sure the old one doesn’t have a failed strap, that is, the two captive metal balls that have the spring between them. That’s another failure mode for these as well. The peened metal that holds one of the balls captive in the strap can fail, and the ball pops out into the door

Re: [MBZ] 123 part search

2021-08-13 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Thanks curt but I think we will skipwelding. Might try to rebuild old one or buy 100 & fit 114mm strap to new check. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI CHOWDAHQ 14 on Sept 12. On Thu, Aug 12, 2021, 8:43 PM Curt Raymond wrote: > 14mm is about half an inch although I don't suppose the precise length

Re: [MBZ] 123 part search

2021-08-13 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
You need the wider sweep to better get in and out. Longer door = less angle to open, meaning it has to angle out farther to allow easy egress/ingress. Having owned one of these as well as an R129 I can attest to the need for the wider sweep. -D Sent from my iPad > On Aug 13, 2021, at 11:30

Re: [MBZ] 123 part search

2021-08-13 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> I realize the coupe door is longer, so I wonder how much that 114mm > translates into door swing? Also heavier. I suspect that this is a greater factor than the swing. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 123 part search

2021-08-13 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Does anybody, for example South Carolina Floyd, have a 123 coupe and a 123 sedan/wagon handy? If so, what's the angular difference between the fully opened doors, and why would the larger door need a wider sweep angle, other than to whack nearby parked cars with? On 2021-08-13 11:20, dan

Re: [MBZ] 123 part search

2021-08-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I was thinking the same thing, I don't think 1/2" is going to translate into a whole lot less door swing... -Curt On Friday, August 13, 2021, 11:20:57 AM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: Typically the “balls” that support the roller wear out or fall out, preventing the

Re: [MBZ] 123 part search

2021-08-13 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Typically the “balls” that support the roller wear out or fall out, preventing the roller from moving along the slide. They can also freeze in place, preventing the door from being opened/closed. I also wonder if you couldn’t use a sedan version and just have a limited door swing. I realize

Re: [MBZ] 123 part search

2021-08-13 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Or just fabricate a new one from parts or new stock. On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 10:03 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > My thoughts exactly, Curt. If there is no real difference apart from > length, it ought to be reasonably easy to add some metal. > Did Dwight ever

Re: [MBZ] 123 part search

2021-08-13 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
My thoughts exactly, Curt. If there is no real difference apart from length, it ought to be reasonably easy to add some metal. Did Dwight ever say what was wrong with the original? Maybe it could be repaired? On 12/08/2021 7:43 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: 14mm is about half an

Re: [MBZ] 123 part search

2021-08-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Bastids! On Thu, Aug 12, 2021, 9:46 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > MB cares a hell of a lot more than BMW. Try getting parts for a BMW 2002 > through the dealer. They won’t even recognize the VIN. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 12, 2021, at 7:29 PM,

Re: [MBZ] 123 part search

2021-08-12 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
MB cares a hell of a lot more than BMW. Try getting parts for a BMW 2002 through the dealer. They won’t even recognize the VIN. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 12, 2021, at 7:29 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes > wrote: > > Perfect example of MB stepping up and building new parts that were >

Re: [MBZ] 123 part search

2021-08-12 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
14mm is about half an inch although I don't suppose the precise length matters all that much. Somebody that was good with a welder should be able to cut a sedan version and add half an inch of strap steel. A TIG welder would be best for fine control and minimal splatter but I could

Re: [MBZ] 123 part search

2021-08-12 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Yes. Gotta love the classic Center. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Thu, Aug 12, 2021, 7:29 PM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Perfect example of MB stepping up and building new parts that were > previously NLA. > > And they say MB doesn’t care…. > > On Thu, Aug

Re: [MBZ] 123 part search

2021-08-12 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
Perfect example of MB stepping up and building new parts that were previously NLA. And they say MB doesn’t care…. On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 6:07 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Yes rare. Classic center said they just remade some. It is for a friend of > mine. Mine

Re: [MBZ] 123 part search

2021-08-12 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Yes rare. Classic center said they just remade some. It is for a friend of mine. Mine was changed when I bought it. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Thu, Aug 12, 2021, 5:56 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I did some digging and only came up with the OE part. You

Re: [MBZ] 123 part search

2021-08-12 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
I did some digging and only came up with the OE part. You can find it at a number of the RevParts sellers for under $250.00, but I don’t see any alternatives. Sorry. If it’s any consolation they’re trading on eBay for upwards of $350 for the uninitiated. I would say to bite the bullet and

[MBZ] 123 part search

2021-08-12 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
I am looking for a door stop/check strap for a 123 coupe. They are different from sedan and wagon. MB Classic has one for 250.00. (ouch) Yesterday I found a URO one for much cheaper but I can't find it today. Parts # is 123 720 03 16. Strap length is 114mm while sedan is 100mm. Does Anybody have