>
>> A 300D N/A gets worse economy than a 300D turbo while having less power.
>> Diesel engines benefit from the turbo.
>> Fred has my copy of the history of the Diesel engine, it explains it better
>> than I understand.
>>
>> -Curt
>>
>>
>>
Hans the friendly Stuttgart taxi driver been happier with a turbo 123
200D if it gets better mileage?
Under Hans' use patterns, perhaps it wouldn't.
diesels aren't throttled
My 200D is. There is no mechanical connection between the
foot pedal and the IP. It senses manifold vacuum.
-- Jim
Turbo diesels get better milage for two reasons:
Better volumetric efficiency (higher effective compression ratio)
Better gearing (engine turns slower, so you get better torque usage).
They also produce more power, so you use power less time while
accelerating, and you can get the same power
stand.
-Curt
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Hmmnh, I'm trying to understand th
he history of the Diesel engine, it explains it better
than I understand.
-Curt
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> Hendrik and fay wrote:
> Hmmnh, I'm trying to understand this concept. I take it the
> turbo Diesel got different gearing?
Yes. But the real difference is the turbo. By making use of
the exhaust heat to spin the turbine which force more air into
the engine, the efficiency increases. That is,
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 13:00:06 +1030 Hendrik and fay
wrote:
> Hmmnh, I'm trying to understand this concept. I take it the turbo
> Diesel got different gearing?
Yes, and a different (lower) compression ratio, among other things.
Craig
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Hmmnh, I'm trying to understand this concept. I take it the turbo Diesel
got different gearing?
Hendrik
who only has inefficient Diesels
On 11/01/13 12:51, Curt Raymond wrote:
Its not just performance, turbocharged diesels are more efficient. Look at the
300D turbo vs the 240D. 1 extra cylind
On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 11:31:19 +1030 Hendrik and fay
wrote:
> This would be one of those first world problems? "OMG why isn't that
> engine turbo charged?"
> I think the point here is fuel economy, you want exciting buy a V8.
Yes, the point is fuel economy. In the OM617, at least, the turbo engin
] 97 E300 Diesel snail model
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This would be one of those first world problems? "OMG why isn't that
engine turbo charged?"
I think the point here is fuel economy, you want e
In houston now on the way back.
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On Jan 10, 2013, at 8:04 PM, OK Don wrote:
> Aren't supposed to be watching strippers on Bourbon St. or at least
> listening to jazz in Preservation Hall?
>
> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 7:48 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>
>> Actually it's 177
Aren't supposed to be watching strippers on Bourbon St. or at least
listening to jazz in Preservation Hall?
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 7:48 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> Actually it's 177
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
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OK Don
2001 ML320
2012 Passat TDI DSG
1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager
1957 C182A
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Actually it's 177
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On Jan 10, 2013, at 7:01 PM, Hendrik and fay wrote:
> This would be one of those first world problems? "OMG why isn't that engine
> turbo charged?"
> I think the point here is fuel economy, you want exciting buy a V8.
> The turbo version only put out 160 h
This would be one of those first world problems? "OMG why isn't that
engine turbo charged?"
I think the point here is fuel economy, you want exciting buy a V8.
The turbo version only put out 160 horses, not exactly speed of light
material.
People don't buy Diesel cars for their performance.
He
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