Re: [MBZ] All electric cars

2019-10-30 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
The ones who were in the 4th of July parade last year bragging they were "zero emissions"  (not) were notably absent this year...    Guess reality set in. I never did want one.  I'd still prefer a 240D or 300D. BTW, over the weekend at the old U, some kid was driving around sportingly in a

Re: [MBZ] All electric cars

2019-10-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Is your name Curt? On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 3:15 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Nothing wrong with being able to drive a diesel for years on the > purchase price difference between it and an electric car. > > Randy > > On 30/10/2019 1:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via

Re: [MBZ] All electric cars

2019-10-30 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Nothing wrong with being able to drive a diesel for years on the purchase price difference between it and an electric car. Randy On 30/10/2019 1:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Very cool! What's wrong with that? On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 2:43 PM Curt Raymond wrote: My wife's

Re: [MBZ] All electric cars

2019-10-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Very cool! What's wrong with that? On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 2:43 PM Curt Raymond wrote: > My wife's cousin has a Model 3, had my Jetta parked next to it at a family > thing a couple months ago. He was telling us how cheap it is to run. I > remarked that I could drive for something like 3 years

Re: [MBZ] All electric cars

2019-10-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
My wife's cousin has a Model 3, had my Jetta parked next to it at a family thing a couple months ago. He was telling us how cheap it is to run. I remarked that I could drive for something like 3 years just on just the difference in price between the two. Then he started getting text alerts

Re: [MBZ] All electric cars

2019-10-30 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
I can buy a lot of diesel for what a model 3 costs. On Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 7:42 AM Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > 55 gal drum of electrons? > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 7:47 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Yeah, that is a major point of electric cars: no trips to

Re: [MBZ] All electric cars

2019-10-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
55 gal drum of electrons? On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 7:47 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Yeah, that is a major point of electric cars: no trips to the filling > station. Unless you drive long distance, which most people dont. Neighbor > had a Cmax for awhile with a

Re: [MBZ] All electric cars

2019-10-30 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Yeah, that is a major point of electric cars: no trips to the filling station. Unless you drive long distance, which most people dont. Neighbor had a Cmax for awhile with a 40 mile range. He drove it 37 miles wo work every day, plugged it in, and drove it home again after work. Never went to the

Re: [MBZ] All electric cars

2019-10-29 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I haul it in the F150 - unload it, and fill whatever needs to be filled (airplane and mowers). No, it doesn't extend the range of a given vehicle, but it does extend the time between visits to fueling station ... On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 3:08 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com>

Re: [MBZ] All electric cars

2019-10-29 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
But that 55 gallon drum looks silly in the trunk of your Mercedes, or do you tow it around on its own little trailer behind the car? Randy On 29/10/2019 3:02 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: I fill a 55 gal. drum with fuel and dispense it with a hand pump. Might have to get an electric one some

Re: [MBZ] All electric cars

2019-10-29 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I fill a 55 gal. drum with fuel and dispense it with a hand pump. Might have to get an electric one some day, but this works and is simple. On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 2:56 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > That did give me very bad ideas > > clay > > > > On Oct 28, 2019,

Re: [MBZ] All electric cars

2019-10-29 Thread Clay Monroe via Mercedes
That did give me very bad ideas clay > On Oct 28, 2019, at 9:03 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes > wrote: > >> What you really needed, was the auxiliary tank that mounted in the trunk! > > That 240D slug we had, with the aux tank in the trunk, easily had a 1000 mile > range. Clay even saw it

Re: [MBZ] All electric cars

2019-10-29 Thread Clay Monroe via Mercedes
Maybe, but I would have felt a burning need to keep the tanks filled at each fuel stop. The jerry cans allowed for refueling my choice of cars, SD, SDL, or some old diesel toyota pickup clay > On Oct 28, 2019, at 8:39 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > On 27/10/2019 9:56 PM, Clay

Re: [MBZ] All electric cars

2019-10-28 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I got over 1500 mile range with the Aux tanks in the 200D in 1972.   1000 miles to DC, then at least 500 driving around town.  I had hoped to get there and back when I started out, but way more driving around the metro area than I had anticipated (friend's wedding) so I left 10-15 gal in the

Re: [MBZ] All electric cars

2019-10-28 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
". . . after Andrew had devastated South Florida . . ." Gee, Andrew never mentioned that he was visiting Florida. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] All electric cars

2019-10-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Speaking of mileage, since mounting new tires, replacing the front ball joints and R upper control arm, and getting an alignment my fuel economy has improved approximately 2 mpg, or around 10 percent. On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 2:19 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > My

Re: [MBZ] All electric cars

2019-10-28 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
My Jetta only needs an extra 6 gallons to get 1000 mile range. I've done 700 miles on a tank. Keep top speed to 65 mph and it sips fuel. There are folks that report 800 mile tanks. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 1:04 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: >

Re: [MBZ] All electric cars

2019-10-28 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
I know somebody who had a 1000 mile tank on his normal commute, driving slowly and carefully. 15.7 gallon tank that he kept restarting the pump until he had a bit over 18 gallons of diesel in the tank and filler neck. Got to the gas station at 998 miles, kept going a bit and drove back so he

Re: [MBZ] All electric cars

2019-10-28 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> What you really needed, was the auxiliary tank that mounted in the trunk! That 240D slug we had, with the aux tank in the trunk, easily had a 1000 mile range. Clay even saw it once, on the trip where we verified the 1000 mile range! -- Jim ___

Re: [MBZ] All electric cars

2019-10-28 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 27/10/2019 9:56 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote: The joy of having old diesels was being able to store three jerry cans of #2 at the ready for when social justice evangelicals decided to topple the government in the Soviet Socialist Republic of Seattle. Never did get more than

Re: [MBZ] All electric cars

2019-10-27 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 2:23 PM > To: Okie Benz > Cc: Dan Penoff > Subject: Re: [MBZ] All electric cars > > New construction gas stations around here are installing standby power > systems as a part of the build. Makes sense, as when the power goes out, not > only can

Re: [MBZ] All electric cars

2019-10-27 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
There are such arrangements for businesses, often larger ones who might have a facility they want to be sure is powered up. The arrangement is such that they sign an annual contract for the availability of a generator of a specific size and the delivery of such within a prescribed time frame,

Re: [MBZ] All electric cars

2019-10-27 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Probably the economics don't support the business case. I wonder if there would be a market for selling gas stations a subscription for emergency generator service within 24 hours or something, sort of an insurance policy in case power does go out. Max Dillon Charleston SC Sun Oct 27

Re: [MBZ] All electric cars

2019-10-27 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I'm amazed most gas stations don't have backup generators... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 2:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: New construction gas stations around here are installing standby power systems as a part of the build. Makes sense, as when

Re: [MBZ] All electric cars

2019-10-27 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
New construction gas stations around here are installing standby power systems as a part of the build. Makes sense, as when the power goes out, not only can you not sell gas, you can’t sell beer, Big Gulps, etc., etc. Once I get settled in at the new ranch and get the old ranch sold off, I’ll

Re: [MBZ] All electric cars

2019-10-27 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
During a widespread power failure that lasted 5 days at my house, a friend drove 30-40 miles (in the wrong direction as it turned out) to find a working gas station. Fortunately the power failure lasted less than a day where I buy gas. Mitch. ___

Re: [MBZ] All electric cars

2019-10-27 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
RUn em dry.   Best is to drain the tank, then run it dry.  my 15 yr old schneeblower is like new.  I never drained the tank, except one year when it ran out of gas when I was done.   I just shut off the gas and ran it dry.  My 40 yr old stihl, I dump out the gas and ran it dry.    (All E10)  

Re: [MBZ] All electric cars

2019-10-27 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
If the initial argument is that this was a failing of electric cars, and in that regard I'd say you're wrong, widespread power outages are going to affect gas powered cars too... Curt  Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 10:57 AM, Max Dillon wrote: Curt, I would

Re: [MBZ] All electric cars

2019-10-27 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Curt, I would argue this disruption is very different, easily avoided with better (less intrusive) government. Single party state, many bad laws and regulations over decades, complete loss of recognition that the government serves the citizens. Nothing at all like an act of God, more like an

Re: [MBZ] All electric cars

2019-10-27 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
It's really no difference than any other disruption though. When there's a hurricane and power is out gas supplies run out almost immediately. Seems unfair to dig electric cars for a failing of all vehicles. Besides which, if the power is out who goes to work? There's no power... CurtCleaned

Re: [MBZ] All electric cars

2019-10-27 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
If she had a 7-8hp generator and an ample supply of gas, she could charge it at about 15mph (3kW x 5 miles/kWh). Good luck finding one in CA this month if she doesn't already have it. https://www.harborfreight.com/4375-watt-max-starting-extra-long-life-gas-powered-generator-carb-63960.html

Re: [MBZ] All electric cars

2019-10-27 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
That is our future if the socialists take over. Max Dillon Charleston SC Sun Oct 27 04:54:12 EDT 2019 archer75--- via Mercedes : > > Friend who lives in northern California wrote: > "I am subject to a power outage starting tonight and going possibly as long > as four days - if you don't

[MBZ] All electric cars

2019-10-27 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Friend who lives in northern California wrote: "I am subject to a power outage starting tonight and going possibly as long as four days - if you don't hear from me - don't worry." If she had an all electric car and lived in an apartment, where would she get her kilowatts to drive the car to