Re: [MBZ] B-36 With Tank Treads??, NOW 777

2014-09-29 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
The 1957 182A is reasonably quiet with the active and passive headset on :-) I did load it up with sound deadening insulation as the first step in installing the interior - I'd hate to hear it without that. On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 1:47 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Re: [MBZ] B-36 With Tank Treads??, NOW 777

2014-09-29 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 1:47 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > A landing strip at the Tallahassee, Florida airport (TLH) is beside a long > building which a novice could easily mistake for the runway at night. Bob, > who is something of a jokester, half way lined up

Re: [MBZ] B-36 With Tank Treads??, NOW 777

2014-09-29 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
cost these > days. > > Wilton > > - Original Message - > From: "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" > To: > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 10:13 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] B-36 With Tank Treads??, NOW 777 > > > > Back many moons ago I was going BOS-L

Re: [MBZ] B-36 With Tank Treads??, NOW 777

2014-09-29 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Flying in our rebuilt 182A is similar, I keep finding little things (and some not so little) that need to be fixed. Statistically, most engine failures happen within the first 200 hours after either new or overhaul. We lost oil pressure a month ago just after take-off. A galley plug wasn't tightene

Re: [MBZ] B-36 With Tank Treads??, NOW 777

2014-09-29 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Message - From: "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" To: Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] B-36 With Tank Treads??, NOW 777 Back many moons ago I was going BOS-LHR on BA, got on a brand new 777 (was its 2nd flight). The FAs and pilots were all excited about i

Re: [MBZ] B-36 With Tank Treads??, NOW 777

2014-09-29 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
014 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] B-36 With Tank Treads??, NOW 777 Back many moons ago I was going BOS-LHR on BA, got on a brand new 777 (was its 2nd flight). The FAs and pilots were all excited about it and spent a lot of time pointing out the new features and performance and such. I think the

Re: [MBZ] B-36 With Tank Treads??, NOW 777

2014-09-29 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Back many moons ago I was going BOS-LHR on BA, got on a brand new 777 (was its 2nd flight). The FAs and pilots were all excited about it and spent a lot of time pointing out the new features and performance and such. I think the galleys were down below, there was an elevator for going up and

Re: [MBZ] B-36 With Tank Treads??

2014-09-28 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
WILTON wrote: > Several years ago, Boeing tried to get USAF to replace the eight engines > with four much newer and more efficient engines that were already airliner > surplus at the time and producing about 40,000 lbs each. Air Force refused > - didn't want a "private company to have control of i

Re: [MBZ] B-36 With Tank Treads??

2014-09-28 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
"Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] B-36 With Tank Treads?? AT wrote: And in comparison to the B-36 and B-52, we now have the B-1B with an empty weight of 182,000 lb, maximum gross weight of 477,000 lb... I remember 18 years ago takin

Re: [MBZ] B-36 With Tank Treads??

2014-09-28 Thread Addison Thompson via Mercedes
The 777 is an awesome airliner. On Sep 28, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Mountain Man wrote: AT wrote: > And in comparison to the B-36 and B-52, we now have the B-1B with an empty > weight of 182,000 lb, maximum gross weight of 477,000 lb... > I remember 18 years ago taking a ride on the new 777. The

Re: [MBZ] B-36 With Tank Treads??

2014-09-28 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
AT wrote: > And in comparison to the B-36 and B-52, we now have the B-1B with an empty > weight of 182,000 lb, maximum gross weight of 477,000 lb... > I remember 18 years ago taking a ride on the new 777. The pilot was proud to compare his new 777 with the familiar B-52. B-52 had 8 engines and

Re: [MBZ] B-36 With Tank Treads??

2014-09-28 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
AT wrote: > And in comparison to the B-36 and B-52, we now have the B-1B with an empty > weight of 182,000 lb, maximum gross weight of 477,000 lb... > I remember 18 years ago taking a ride on the new 777. The pilot was proud to compare his new 777 with the familiar B-52. B-52 had 8 engines and

Re: [MBZ] B-36 With Tank Treads??

2014-09-27 Thread Addison Thompson via Mercedes
ot; To: "Dan Penoff" ; "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 12:21 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] B-36 With Tank Treads?? > On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 20:46:45 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > >> Check it out: >> >> http://foxtrotalpha.

Re: [MBZ] B-36 With Tank Treads??

2014-09-27 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Those are 12,000 shaft hp engines on that thing, the largest turbo-props ever. Pootie has been sending them around to rattle Obama's cage a bit. It would be interesting to see a stealth aircraft fly up their 6 and let off a little shot under the flight deck. Or maybe that has already happene

Re: [MBZ] B-36 With Tank Treads??

2014-09-27 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
The really scary thing is the Tupolev Bear -- similar size to the B-52 but almost as fast, flies higher, and carries more bomb load twice as far. On big hairy counter-rotating turboprops, something that no one in the west ever got to work very well. Probably vibrates almost as bad as a B-3

Re: [MBZ] B-36 With Tank Treads??

2014-09-27 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
It's actually fairly easy to miss the B-36 in the hanger -- it's so big you cannot get far enough away from it to actually see it. IIRC, the wings are something like 20 feet above the ground and a tall guy can walk easily under the bomb bay with the doors open, so it's lost in the structure

Re: [MBZ] B-36 With Tank Treads??

2014-09-27 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Chance-Vought was fairly conservative with the wing loading, and Boeing was not. Much more lift per square foot, thus less structure. The B-60 (I think that was the designation for the all-jet B-36 derivative) was a real dog. Way too big, wing way too fat, and so forth since it was not re

Re: [MBZ] B-36 With Tank Treads??

2014-09-27 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I went to the Air Force Museum 3-4 times a year from the early 60s until 1969. The majority of the static displays at that time were on a large gravel pad next to a big hangar where the indoor displays were. About the only thing I recall about the indoor displays was the B-29 fuselage that you

Re: [MBZ] B-36 With Tank Treads??

2014-09-27 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
n List" Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 12:21 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] B-36 With Tank Treads?? On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 20:46:45 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Check it out: http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/wait-the-b-36-peacemaker-flew-with-tank-tracks-for-lan-1638780957 Yup. Also in

Re: [MBZ] B-36 With Tank Treads??

2014-09-27 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
That was an experimental system that was only installed once, I think. I'd imagine that it was almost impossible to keep the track on the gear at take-off speeds! The eventual replacement was the first four-wheel bogey that was then used until they retired the B-36. If you have not been

Re: [MBZ] B-36 With Tank Treads??

2014-09-26 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 20:46:45 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > Check it out: > > http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/wait-the-b-36-peacemaker-flew-with-tank-tracks-for-lan-1638780957 Yup. Also interesting are the comments: A wingspan of 230 feet, six piston engines and later four

[MBZ] B-36 With Tank Treads??

2014-09-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
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