And the pilots are the first ones at the scene of the crash.
--R
On 3/31/15 10:52 AM, Randy Bennell wrote:
The one thing you did not mention, was that as Captain on this monster
landing in the dark and the snow storm, your life is on the line along
with that of the passengers.
Hopefully, y
The one thing you did not mention, was that as Captain on this monster
landing in the dark and the snow storm, your life is on the line along
with that of the passengers.
Hopefully, you are not the gambling sort and wish to live to fly again
another day.
RB
On 30/03/2015 5:45 PM, G Mann wro
This is why I am not at all interested in using Google cars or other human
devoid vehicles. Computers only do what they are told. Garbage in, garbage
out, and human error writing the code. Rich was able to provide an example of
pilot error, but the pilots were making choice and did not abroga
Speaking of wooden ships, and climate change
There are no longer enough of the big old trees around for the construction of
the mighty sailing ships. Trees are too tiny to provide masts without glueing
them together. Used to be you needed a mast, limp into a suitable harbor with
trees, an
What they said --
There are old pilots, and bold pilots, but no old, bold pilots.
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 5:26 PM, G Mann wrote:
> Amen and AaMen...
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 3:24 PM, WILTON wrote:
>
> > Divert. Spending the rest of the night somewhere else and coming back
> > later
Oh, they arrived all right. Probably never gonna fly that particular
plane out again though.
Something strange happened, it's not like winter weather is an unusual
event in Halifax, nor is an Air Canada A320 landing in a snowstorm.
I'm sure there is more to the story than we have heard ye
Andrew,
You play the part of Pilot In Command for a bit..
You are responsible for the lives of 200 people on board, perhaps $200,000
worth of cargo in the hold, an airplane valued at $70,000,000.00, and your
reputation as Captain, which took you 15 yrs of long hours and hard work to
get.
Now.. i
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> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 6:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bad week for A-320 -- A Langley Tale
>
>
>
> But if you're making an approach in the dark and can't see 10' in front of
>>
Divert. Spending the rest of the night somewhere else and coming back later
is better than NEVER arriving.
Wilton
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Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 6:19 PM
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But if you're making an approach in the dark and can't see 10' in front of
the cockpit due to blizzard like conditions wouldn't it be wise to trust
the automatic controls?
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 2:23 PM, OK Don wrote:
> True Andrew, however Grant's point is more relevant to the Air France
> acc
True Andrew, however Grant's point is more relevant to the Air France
accident over the Atlantic - where they think a sensor iced over and was
giving bad readings. The computer can't keep you in the air with bad
data. All of these large aircraft are "too many small parts flying in close
formation".
ocked with ice.
Wilton
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Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 11:19 AM
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Not sure what that means but it sounds pretty nasty.
On Mo
No; never tried to look up one.
Wilton
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This is a rare type of accident. When the fuss dies down, airlines will g
arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:
This is a rare type of accident.
Accident?
Mitch.
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Come to the airport Andrew.. I'll demonstrate it to you...
Back in the day when there were wooden ships and iron men. Something you
missed in your education.
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 8:19 AM, Andrew Strasfogel
wrote:
> Not sure what that means but it sounds pretty nasty.
>
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015
Not sure what that means but it sounds pretty nasty.
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 11:16 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com <
arche...@embarqmail.com> wrote:
>
> This is a rare type of accident. When the fuss dies down, airlines will go
> back to their old ways. Student pilots often spend huge amounts of borr
This is a rare type of accident. When the fuss dies down, airlines will go back
to their old ways. Student pilots often spend huge amounts of borrowed money
before they can go to work for a budget airline where they will be paid only
$20,000 or so per year initially.
Gerry
P.S. Did you ever get
Thank you, I'll be here all week!
--R
On 3/30/15 10:28 AM, WILTON wrote:
Your good, your good. ;<)
Wilton
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Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 9:45 AM
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Or a urinal in the cockpit, or pee tubes as in days of yore - B-47's, for
example.
Wilton
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Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 7:07 AM
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Your good, your good. ;<)
Wilton
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Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 9:45 AM
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It Depends
--R
On 3/30/15 7:07 AM, Max Dillo
It Depends
--R
On 3/30/15 7:07 AM, Max Dillon wrote:
Adult diapers could have prevented this whole thing!
Everyone throw rotten tomatoes at Rich!
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It Depends
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On 3/30/15 7:07 AM, Max Dillon wrote:
Adult diapers could have prevented this whole thing!
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Adult diapers could have prevented this whole thing!
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So the computer in the Germanwings disaster was listening to a human and if
left alone would not hav e crashed the plane. Perhaps we need MORE
technology and less reliance on potential human error.
On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 10:42 PM, G Mann wrote:
> Rich,
>
> Nice bit of aviation history. While I
Rich,
Nice bit of aviation history. While I salute your well earned hard work in
all the FBW software, as a pilot I still hesitate to give command of the
airplane over to a machine that runs on tiny bits of electrical signal..
There is simply to much that can fail or render a false signal which
af
Fascinating! This group needs more "in person" tales like this, and like
Wiltons.
Gerry
Rich Thomas wrote:
> So back when I was in kawledge I had summer internships at NASA
> Langley. One summer I was in the Flight Research Division, having
> worked the previous summer in the Flight Simulatio
So back when I was in kawledge I had summer internships at NASA
Langley. One summer I was in the Flight Research Division, having
worked the previous summer in the Flight Simulation Division, wherein
the aircraft being simulated I was then working on in the real world.
The primary aircraft wa
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