Re: [MBZ] Bouncy SLS on my wagon ('85 300TD)

2005-07-28 Thread Loren Faeth
I stand corrected. Thanks Joe At 08:43 AM 7/28/2005, you wrote: The fsm, iirc, is pretty specific about *not* using the valve to adjust ride height, Loren. That path is said to be fraught with peril. Valve arm is supposed to be adjusted to the neutral position with a specified load. joe ___

Re: [MBZ] Bouncy SLS on my wagon ('85 300TD)

2005-07-28 Thread Joe Knight
The fsm, iirc, is pretty specific about *not* using the valve to adjust ride height, Loren. That path is said to be fraught with peril. Valve arm is supposed to be adjusted to the neutral position with a specified load. joe

Re: [MBZ] Bouncy SLS on my wagon ('85 300TD)

2005-07-28 Thread Loren Faeth
There should be no need to change spring pads unless the old ones have disintegrated. Ride height is adjusted at the hydraulic control valve. Our TE was very saggy when we got it. I put in new accumulators and sway bar links and adjusted the ride height on the valve and it was great after th

[MBZ] Bouncy SLS on my wagon ('85 300TD)

2005-07-27 Thread meadedillon
Richard, Yes, I have to step and lower the mast each time I launch. Rather a hassle, makes the power boat crowd very curious (but usually they're too polite to stare and point), and I'm still working on refining the process to get the time required more reasonable. I once did it in 30 minutes

Re: [MBZ] Bouncy SLS on my wagon ('85 300TD)

2005-07-27 Thread Richard Hattaway
Nope, don't have it. I so far have gotten away without needing one, but I guess the time will come someday that I have to have that tool. Do you drop the mast on each takedown? So far I have not had to do that, and it has made sailing more enjoyable. I kept my boat at a club for years that all

Re: [MBZ] Bouncy SLS on my wagon ('85 300TD)

2005-07-27 Thread Joe Knight
It's my *incomplete* understanding that the spring compressor is not really required for the rears. Maybe others who've actually been there can chime in on that. joe

[MBZ] Bouncy SLS on my wagon ('85 300TD)

2005-07-27 Thread meadedillon
Richard, I'm not sure what class it is, it is 20 ft long with a sloop rig. Really a very enjoyable boat, and so far the cost has been reasonable. My wife and I are really having fun with it, just wish the heat and humidity would become more reasonable. The set-up and take-down cycles each ta

Re: [MBZ] Bouncy SLS on my wagon ('85 300TD)

2005-07-27 Thread meadedillon
this on to my Indie. V/r Max From: David Bruckmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2005/07/26 Tue PM 09:42:52 EDT To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: Meade Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bouncy SLS on my wagon ('85

Re: [MBZ] Bouncy SLS on my wagon ('85 300TD)

2005-07-27 Thread David Bruckmann
Meade, If the bounce is SOFT and/or the car is sagging, your base pressure is low. When the internal spring weakens in the base pressure component of the levelling valve, base pressure is allowed to escape, which in turn leads to a SOFT bounce. The relevant, poorly translated passage from Cha

Re: [MBZ] Bouncy SLS on my wagon ('85 300TD)

2005-07-26 Thread Fmiser
rumor has it that [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Richard, > > Is there some valving that goes on inside > those? I think that their function in the system is basically the > same as shock absorbers in a normal suspension set-up, so it would > make sense that they would have some valving like a shock

Re: [MBZ] Bouncy SLS on my wagon ('85 300TD)

2005-07-26 Thread Richard Hattaway
I bet. What class is the boat? My ride would have been considered 'hard bouncy'. Hard to describe unless you were in the car. If I hit any bump with any load in the rear, the bounce came from the springs after the SLS spheres 'bottomed out'. That is how I imagined what was going on based on th

Re: [MBZ] Bouncy SLS on my wagon ('85 300TD)

2005-07-26 Thread meadedillon
Richard, Thanks for the info. So, your car was also bouncy when the spheres needed to be replaced? I thought that the failure mode for those was a hard ride, not bouncy. Is there some valving that goes on inside those? I think that their function in the system is basically the same as shock

Re: [MBZ] Bouncy SLS on my wagon ('85 300TD)

2005-07-26 Thread Richard Hattaway
Meade, Wild guess, hard to tell w/o actually comparing the ride to mine (c: . But I bet you have a combination of valve rebuild (leaks down, not at right height w/trailer attached) and sphere (bounce). I dont see how the valve could affect only one side, but since the spheres are individual to

[MBZ] Bouncy SLS on my wagon ('85 300TD)

2005-07-26 Thread meadedillon
Dieselvolk, Well, this past weekend I towed my sailboat back and forth from storage to boat shop to house to boat ramp, and found the experience most unpleasant. Lots of bouncing, tongue of trailer yanking on the hitch like a wild animal trying to escape, having to drive real slow on the rough