Re: [MBZ] Clean 300TD on BAT

2019-11-01 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
The electric parking brakes in our Subaru have no automatic function - if you don't turn them on, they stay off, no matter what. If you turn them on, you HAVE to release them before you can drive the car. No, shifting into/out of gear makes no difference - they work just like manual brakes. On

Re: [MBZ] Clean 300TD on BAT

2019-11-01 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
I think its more like a servo motor that runs the piston in and out. No power = no movement. On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 12:18 PM Craig via Mercedes wrote: > On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 11:58:58 -0400 Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes > wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 11:50 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes >

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2019-11-01 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 11:58:58 -0400 Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote: > On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 11:50 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > > My mechanic son was telling me this morning, that the new F150's have > > electric parking brakes that are built in to the rear calipers. He > >

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2019-11-01 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
This is why most people just buy a new car and make the payments. They cannot or will not do the work themselves and cars have become better but much more complicated. Many parts, if they are available have become silly expensive. Randy On 31/10/2019 7:52 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes

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2019-11-01 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Well, hopefully, if they become common, the cost will go down. Randy On 01/11/2019 10:58 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote: I believe nearly all modern cars have this feature now. On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 11:50 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: On

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2019-11-01 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
I believe nearly all modern cars have this feature now. On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 11:50 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On 31/10/2019 9:42 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: > > And for $500 a month, pretty much for the rest of your life, all you > > get is a

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2019-11-01 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I've been sorta shopping for a new truck, the tin worm is getting into ours, and I noticed that lots of them have that now. Our 2010 RAM doesn't but the 2015s do. I'm also skeptical of them on the one hand but on the other hand you don't have a 10+ foot long cable to seize up... -Curt On

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2019-11-01 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 31/10/2019 9:42 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: And for $500 a month, pretty much for the rest of your life,  all you get is a succession of electronic toys that may or may not last as long as the payments.    The Smoke WILL come out.  The only question is WHEN? My mechanic son was

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2019-11-01 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
So which magazine will have the full story and the centerfold spread? I'll let you know next time I get out that way, I would love to see the car. Max Dillon Charleston SC Thu Oct 31 20:53:07 EDT 2019 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes : > I just put a rebuilt 500e subframe into the 87 wagon.

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2019-10-31 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
And for $500 a month, pretty much for the rest of your life,  all you get is a succession of electronic toys that may or may not last as long as the payments.    The Smoke WILL come out.  The only question is WHEN? Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote on 10/31/19 9:35 PM: Yes. Say on. Dwight

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2019-10-31 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
>I am not driving them and waiting for something to fail. If you want new car >type performance, a lot of stuff has to be made new. Yep. The average new car payment is over $500 a month. That will buy a LOT of parts (and labor, if needed). Rick ___

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2019-10-31 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Yes. Say on. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Thu, Oct 31, 2019, 10:34 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >I am not driving them and waiting for something to fail. If you want new > car type performance, a lot of stuff has to be made new. > > Yep. The average new car

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2019-10-31 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
I just put a rebuilt 500e subframe into the 87 wagon. Everything OE except the toe links, which are nla. New half shafts from cvj reman are over $400 plus shipping. Parts for the links and new control arms are way over 600. New fasteners, axle nuts, subframe mounts, lower ball joints for the

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2019-10-31 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Oh man, for the multi-link suspensions I totally agree. Used ta be cheaper to buy all the links at once too. My last MB Indy preferred to fix things as they broke, felt weird to have to make him do it all at once. Maybe he got more $$ in labor doing them one at a time. -Curt On

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2019-10-30 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Having done the 124 300D rear subframe piecemeal, several times, I have to agree with Jaime.  I did the rear of the 81 240D all at once.  That is a FAR superior way to do it.   In the end, the last 2 times I did the rear of 124s, I did it all at once.   I won't do piecemeal anymore, unless it

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2019-10-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sure. If I had won the auction I would probably drive it and repair issues on a piecemeal basis, as symptoms are observed. On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 3:13 PM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I didn't actually look too hard at the car. But as these approach 40 years

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2019-10-30 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
I didn't actually look too hard at the car. But as these approach 40 years old, they need stuff. More stuff than they did 20 years ago, no doubt. And yes, my work is mostly with MB genuine parts, which are the only ones that last long term for suspension. You could save by going aftermarket

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2019-10-30 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 30/10/2019 1:44 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote: Unless its been done recently, and with good quality parts, that car will need: Complete rebuild of front suspension Drive shaft stuff Rear subframe mounts and rear suspension bits All the brakes All the climate control stuff, plus AC

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2019-10-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I'm skeptical that this particular car would need all of that. Also, those are dealership prices. On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 2:45 PM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Unless its been done recently, and with good quality parts, that car will > need: > Complete rebuild

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2019-10-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
No disrespect, but I strongly disagree. It would be super challenging to spend $10k on a clean 300TD wagon not needing a repaint, transmission, or engine replacement. On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 2:37 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Suffice it to say I think Jaime's

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2019-10-30 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
Unless its been done recently, and with good quality parts, that car will need: Complete rebuild of front suspension Drive shaft stuff Rear subframe mounts and rear suspension bits All the brakes All the climate control stuff, plus AC work Full service, fluids, hoses, filters, etc. Tires Thats

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2019-10-30 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Suffice it to say I think Jaime's standards are a bit more particular than yours Andrew. Only guessing of course... On Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 7:44 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Why so much? Vacuum sorting and cruise control can be easily done under > $1k if

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2019-10-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I guess that makes me Above Average. On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 12:14 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Randy Bennell via Mercedes writes: > > > On 30/10/2019 9:43 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > >> Why so much? Vacuum sorting and cruise control can be

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2019-10-30 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Randy Bennell via Mercedes writes: > On 30/10/2019 9:43 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: >> Why so much? Vacuum sorting and cruise control can be easily done under >> $1k if you are the least bit handy. >> > Most people are not handy. And the number who are is declining. If you can't

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2019-10-30 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 30/10/2019 9:43 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Why so much? Vacuum sorting and cruise control can be easily done under $1k if you are the least bit handy. Most people are not handy. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

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2019-10-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Why so much? Vacuum sorting and cruise control can be easily done under $1k if you are the least bit handy. On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 7:57 AM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > This is definitely the case... buyers know they're going to invest more. > This car will

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2019-10-30 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
This is definitely the case... buyers know they're going to invest more. This car will probably need $10k in work to be well sorted again. Jaime On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 7:37 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > 10k was the answer. Seems like it was well bought,

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2019-10-30 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
The cop enforcing our fire evacuation didnt let me in today, but he went on and on about how great my car is and how I should never sell it. I was like "great. Now can I go get some underwear?" No luck. On Tue, Oct 29, 2019, 8:56 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

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2019-10-30 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
10k was the answer. Seems like it was well bought, pretty rust free and maybe a new transmission with new front ball joints etc. I suspect these cars are going to people who wont mind spending some maintenance dollars on them, which is what they will need to do. On Tue, Oct 29, 2019, 8:56 AM

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2019-10-29 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Bidding > $10k, despite 200k Miles+, and inoperative CC and vacuum locks. Otherwise, appears to have been babied. White with blue genuine leather seats. Where will this end?

[MBZ] Clean 300TD on BAT

2019-10-29 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
White, with blue leather seats and uncracked dash. Currently over $10K despite 200K miles, and inoperative CC and vacuum locks. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1982-mercedes-benz-300td-turbo-16/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2019-10-29 ___