Re: [MBZ] Dilemma

2023-05-24 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
I’m paying $4.45 for diesel (my Dodge and my Passat) and $5.05 for regular unleaded (for her Outback). They say the average price in AZ just south of $4, but for some unexplained reason it is $1+ higher in Phoenix….where we just surpassed Five Million people in the Valley….and they were all

Re: [MBZ] Dilemma

2023-05-24 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
We have yet to get under the $4 mark for diesel. Been awfully close. Not sure what effect the summer driving season will have... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 11:02 PM, mi...@mitchellhaley.com wrote: Right now, 87E10 is $3.70 here and #2 is $3.92 here,

Re: [MBZ] Dilemma

2023-05-23 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
$3.55 87 here last I saw at WalMart (cheapest in town), diesel $4.35 (last I saw at Speedway, probably not the cheapest but usually average). I've seen 93 no E as high as $5.39 recently. On Tue, May 23, 2023, at 22:02, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote: > Right now, 87E10 is $3.70 here and #2 is

Re: [MBZ] Dilemma

2023-05-23 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes
Right now, 87E10 is $3.70 here and #2 is $3.92 here, making diesel the economy choice once again. When the difference was $1 a gallon, it left me wondering...what's the point? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Dilemma

2023-05-22 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
The problem here is that most of that generation of trucks rusted horribly, even worse than the previous. Some say it's recycled metal, others say low VOC paint, whatever, it's happened. Used to be a guy near us who imported no rust trucks from the West Coast to sell at a premium. Nobody seems

Re: [MBZ] Dilemma

2023-05-22 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> I've been looking for one for a farm truck. Around here the Dodge v10 brings > big money. Interestingly the Ford v10 is quite undesirable... Dr. Google says: "One of the main faults with the early V10 engines (1999 – 2005) was that the spark plugs could blow out of the cylinder head... Ford

Re: [MBZ] Dilemma

2023-05-21 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
That’s strange. AZBob Sent from my iPhone > On May 21, 2023, at 5:02 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > I've been looking for one for a farm truck. Around here the Dodge v10 brings > big money. Interestingly the Ford v10 is quite undesirable... > Curt > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on

Re: [MBZ] Dilemma

2023-05-21 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I've been looking for one for a farm truck. Around here the Dodge v10 brings big money. Interestingly the Ford v10 is quite undesirable... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 4:06 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: I'm enjoying the crap out of my $1500 V10

Re: [MBZ] Dilemma

2023-05-21 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Correction, my '15 Jetta is not a small car. It's on par with Dwight's E class, a full size saloon car, comfortable for 4 people, even with a full sized person like me in the back seat. I can't imagine a VW common rail diesel not being "modern" either. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

Re: [MBZ] Dilemma

2023-05-20 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
What Dan and Allen said - I gave up on Diesel cars - they just don't make sense any more. Trucks carrying/pulling a load? Yes. A bunch of short trips, no. After the Diesel Passat, I realized I bought the Diesel on emotions, not logic. That having been said, of the two options you gave, I'd choose

Re: [MBZ] Dilemma

2023-05-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
You couldn't pay me to own a L***s. On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 9:01 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > We do not expect to put more than 6000 miles/year on the vehicle we > purchase. > > Then why look at a diesel? It will never run a Regen cycle, and probably > end up

Re: [MBZ] Dilemma

2023-05-20 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
> We do not expect to put more than 6000 miles/year on the vehicle we purchase. Then why look at a diesel? It will never run a Regen cycle, and probably end up plugging the DPF in short order. But a Lexus Hybrid SUV and drive it until you or it dies. Rick

Re: [MBZ] Dilemma

2023-05-20 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
I'm enjoying the crap out of my $1500 V10 truck. It's a V, and if your S is hauling heavy/bulky stuff around or driving around offroad you're all set. As for U, well, there's always hauling heavy/bulky stuff around... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] Dilemma

2023-05-20 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
If you're willing to go a little older, ML350s seem to be plentiful at half your price. Maybe 10 years is a magic number in pricing? Prices seem dramatically lower for 2012 and older. Just need to avoid the bad engine years. On Sat, May 20, 2023, at 14:01, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Dilemma

2023-05-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
OK so what is the nicest 2014 nondiesel SUV I can get for less money? On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 2:08 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > All good points, Allan. > > The days of diesels being more economical when it comes to cars is pretty > much gone. Sure, there are

Re: [MBZ] Dilemma

2023-05-20 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
All good points, Allan. The days of diesels being more economical when it comes to cars is pretty much gone. Sure, there are the smaller VWs, for example, like Curt’s that get really good mileage, but the more modern diesels won’t, and the cost of diesel fuel isn’t likely to drop below

Re: [MBZ] Dilemma

2023-05-20 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
217k is getting up there not so much for a well-maintained diesel engine but for the transmission and all the other moving/rotating parts in the car. Wheel bearings, suspension bushings, fluid pumps, etc. Despite the best maintenance, stuff wears out eventually. I'll be honest, neither of

Re: [MBZ] Dilemma

2023-05-20 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
The $4k 2012GL450 just rolled over 275kmi.  The trans needs some attention, maybe a fluid change will help it, or maybe the torque converter clutches are shot and that will need some major work.  It is showing the CEL for the intake manifold flaps which I need to tend to, this is a common

Re: [MBZ] Dilemma

2023-05-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The tech is not a fan of the V6 Bluetec engines. Much prefers the 4 cyl. twin turbo in the GLK 250. On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 12:02 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > So they are asking $10.5k for the high mileage but well-maintained car. > Offer $9k, budget for

Re: [MBZ] Dilemma

2023-05-20 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
So they are asking $10.5k for the high mileage but well-maintained car.  Offer $9k, budget for repairs with the understanding that it could either go several more years to a MILLION MILES or it might need some major work.  If you are interested in getting one of these, that is the risk no

Re: [MBZ] Dilemma

2023-05-20 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> "it was driven like sh*t and maintained like sh*t.” I suspect that what he _meant_ to say was: "drove the sh*t out of it, and maintained the sh*t out of it." Or, in the King's English, driven muchly but maintained well. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Dilemma

2023-05-20 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
"it was driven like sh*t and maintained like sh*t.” I don’t interpret the mechanic’s quote as a positive statement. You’re making conflicting statements here. And yes, in my opinion, I would rather have a high mile car with excellent provenance than a lower one with none. Are major repairs

Re: [MBZ] Dilemma

2023-05-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
*If your mechanic says the high mileage car is crap, why bother?* Au contraire. Mechanic did a PPI and found nothing needs attention. He said that the extensive dealer service records show that the owner maintained everything by the book when driving 217k miles (25 k mpy). The underlying

Re: [MBZ] Dilemma

2023-05-20 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Lower miles is almost always more desirable. Higher miles aren’t bad, but far more likley to have a need for major service sooner than later. That could easily wipe out any savings you get over the lower mileage car. If your mechanic says the high mileage car is crap, why bother? -D > On May

Re: [MBZ] Dilemma

2023-05-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Not my words. Meant as a compliment, I suppose. Both are 2014. $12.5 vs. $10.5K The asking price on the 217k ML is non-negotiable. The other has already come down from $16.5K and is not local. On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 11:04 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >

Re: [MBZ] Dilemma

2023-05-20 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
What years and prices on each? You will probably have to budget $2-3k/yr for maintenance if you are paying someone to do it.  Or if the engine kakks then it will either be a write-off or will cost A LOT.  I'm not sure how "34 service records" and"perfect cosmetic and mechanical condition"

[MBZ] Dilemma

2023-05-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
We are looking at two ML 350 Bluetec SUVs for possible purchase. One is a single owner vehicle with 34 service records, no reported accidents, all updates, and in perfect cosmetic and mechanical condition but with 217,000 miles (!). As my mechanic said, "it was driven like sh*t and maintained

Re: [MBZ] dilemma and fair price for a 79 300TD

2007-04-24 Thread Zeitgeist
You can sweeten the deal by throwing in my free--yes, free '78 300D. That's a bargain at any price! Casey __ '87 300TD intercooler/propane '94 100CSQ Avant '90 90Q '89 Bluestar

Re: [MBZ] dilemma and fair price for a 79 300TD

2007-04-24 Thread Zach
Aha! Does it run? --- Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can sweeten the deal by throwing in my free--yes, free '78 300D. That's a bargain at any price! Casey __ '87 300TD intercooler/propane '94 100CSQ Avant '90 90Q '89 Bluestar

Re: [MBZ] dilemma and fair price for a 79 300TD

2007-04-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well there is one for sale here locally, its an 85, turbo, in decent shape, they want $1200 for it. Zach wrote: Alrighty here is a topic to mull over... I have a 79 300TD that I thought I would keep forever but recent experience has shown that my interest have drifted to other things... I am

Re: [MBZ] dilemma and fair price for a 79 300TD

2007-04-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I get those letters from time to time. I just am careful about keeping my junk out of sight. Zach wrote: I am as much of a scrounge as Kaleb can ever be... (I have official letters from the county telling me to stop operating an illegal vehicle graveyard.) Mere mortals dont realize that the

Re: [MBZ] dilemma and fair price for a 79 300TD

2007-04-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Whats its story? Where is it located? Zeitgeist wrote: You can sweeten the deal by throwing in my free--yes, free '78 300D. That's a bargain at any price! Casey __ '87 300TD intercooler/propane '94 100CSQ Avant '90 90Q '89 Bluestar

Re: [MBZ] dilemma and fair price for a 79 300TD

2007-04-24 Thread Bob Rentfro
Locally...meaning in your yard, or elsewhere there in Okieland? Bob R - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] dilemma and fair price for a 79 300TD Well

Re: [MBZ] dilemma and fair price for a 79 300TD

2007-04-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Oh, about 8 miles away. Bob Rentfro wrote: Locally...meaning in your yard, or elsewhere there in Okieland? Bob R - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ

Re: [MBZ] dilemma and fair price for a 79 300TD

2007-04-24 Thread Zeitgeist
Nah, it's a parts car. Stripped interior, but have most of the panels and seats. No hood or grill. Engine and tranny are in there, but the engine is rusted, inside and out. Straight body. Come 'n get it. I'd throw in a bunch of my accumulated W123 stuff, as well. I'm Krazy Karl, and

Re: [MBZ] dilemma and fair price for a 79 300TD

2007-04-24 Thread Zach
Umm. No thanks. You are playing the same game I am, its called 'Get rid of all this W123 stuff --- Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nah, it's a parts car. Stripped interior, but have most of the panels and seats. No hood or grill. Engine and tranny are in there, but the engine is

Re: [MBZ] dilemma and fair price for a 79 300TD

2007-04-24 Thread Zeitgeist
Well, then you're no fun, at all. On 4/23/07, Zach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Umm. No thanks. You are playing the same game I am, its called 'Get rid of all this W123 stuff Casey __ '87 300TD intercooler/propane '94 100CSQ Avant '90 90Q '89 Bluestar

Re: [MBZ] dilemma and fair price for a 79 300TD

2007-04-24 Thread Kevin Kraly
$1200 for a TD Turbo Diesel wagon in decent running condition? If that was near Portland OR, I would jump on it However, if it really was nere near me, it would be at least 3 times that as there's a 1982 for sale for $3450, white with tan interior.

Re: [MBZ] dilemma and fair price for a 79 300TD

2007-04-24 Thread E M
I'd pay a few thousand for a well sorted one in decent shape. Im still really new the this whole mercedes thing, but I think if you can get any car built like a benz, with little rust and 2-3 years without needing any major rebuilds, pretty hard to beat the value. Ed 300E On 23/04/07, Kevin

[MBZ] dilemma and fair price for a 79 300TD

2007-04-23 Thread Zach
Alrighty here is a topic to mull over... I have a 79 300TD that I thought I would keep forever but recent experience has shown that my interest have drifted to other things... I am thinking of selling it but wanted to get some feedback from the peanut gallery concerning value. The good: -

Re: [MBZ] dilemma and fair price for a 79 300TD

2007-04-23 Thread Sunil Hari
kaleb will offer you $500 for it. don't take it. On 4/23/07, Zach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alrighty here is a topic to mull over... I have a 79 300TD that I thought I would keep forever but recent experience has shown that my interest have drifted to other things... I am thinking of selling

Re: [MBZ] dilemma and fair price for a 79 300TD

2007-04-23 Thread Zach
I am as much of a scrounge as Kaleb can ever be... (I have official letters from the county telling me to stop operating an illegal vehicle graveyard.) Mere mortals dont realize that the unwritten laws of the universe prevent us from being in the same vicinity, otherwise spacetime will

Re: [MBZ] dilemma and fair price for a 79 300TD

2007-04-23 Thread Rich Thomas
Don't all the greenies up your way go for those things and overpay for them, to be ecocorrect? Maybe pour in a jug of fry oil and call it a veggie eco-diesel or some such nonsense and take their money while helping them feel better about their carbon tireprints. Give them a month's supply of