Re: [MBZ] Electric Cars Anyone?

2008-07-19 Thread OK Don
that's the guy who shifts without a clutch - kills pwer to the motor, let's the syncro rings match the speeds, and shifts. You can see it all happen in the video. On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 7:18 AM, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lots of EV folk keep the trans and take out the clutch. For

Re: [MBZ] Electric Cars Anyone?

2008-07-19 Thread Curt Raymond
good and has a huge writeup on ecomodder. -Curt Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:36:27 -0400 From: Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric Cars Anyone? To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii What I'v

Re: [MBZ] Electric Cars Anyone?

2008-07-19 Thread Mitch Haley
Hendrik & Fay wrote: > Why need a tranny? I just bought a new drill that can be adjusted to > turn from two rpm up to 600 or whatever rpm, no gearbox in that sucker > far as I know. I saw a Road&Track writeup on an electric Honda CRX years ago. They used the Honda transaxle, but I believe they j

Re: [MBZ] Electric Cars Anyone?

2008-07-18 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Why need a tranny? I just bought a new drill that can be adjusted to turn from two rpm up to 600 or whatever rpm, no gearbox in that sucker far as I know. I am guessing electric cars work on much the same principle, put your foot down a bit and the wheels start to turn, apply more current and th

Re: [MBZ] Electric Cars Anyone?

2008-07-18 Thread Allan Streib
"Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > HP is still torque X RPM and you still need the transmission to make > the most use of the HP. You don't need a clutch. You would need a clutch to change gears while driving, right? I can understand not needing one to start off. Allan -- 1983 300D

Re: [MBZ] Electric Cars Anyone?

2008-07-18 Thread Tom Hargrave
motor is 100 percent useable >> HP. You can easily get more useable HP from a 43 electric motor than >> from a gas engine rated at twice the peak HP. >> >> Thanks, Tom >> 256-656-1924 >> >> -Original Message- >> From: "Allan Streib&q

Re: [MBZ] Electric Cars Anyone?

2008-07-18 Thread Rich Thomas
Yeah, I read about a few and they just bolt the motor to the bell housing/tranny with a shaft adapter, use the tranny. With all the torque available at 0 rpm, I wonder if you could just leave it in 3 or 4 and do it that way. I suppose you would just figure it out. --R OK Don wrote: > I was w

Re: [MBZ] Electric Cars Anyone?

2008-07-18 Thread OK Don
I was wondering the same thing - those cars with motors in the hubs don't have a transmission, but most of the conversions I've read about connect to the tranny - some with a clutch, others without, but all shifting. Guess it depends on the moter, controller circuitry, power source delivery rate, e

Re: [MBZ] Electric Cars Anyone?

2008-07-18 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Article in todays rag goes on about Missinbitshity building a prototype eleccy car with hub motors front and one motor in the rear, top speed 180 klicks and range of 200ks, seating capacity of two 5 year olds and crashworthiness of a wet cardboard box. Strong winds will make it fly and passing

Re: [MBZ] Electric Cars Anyone?

2008-07-18 Thread Allan Streib
P. You can easily get more useable HP from a 43 electric motor than >> from a gas engine rated at twice the peak HP. >> >> Thanks, Tom >> 256-656-1924 >> >> -Original Message- >> From: "Allan Streib" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>

Re: [MBZ] Electric Cars Anyone?

2008-07-18 Thread Rich Thomas
n easily get more useable HP from a 43 electric motor than > from a gas engine rated at twice the peak HP. > > Thanks, Tom > 256-656-1924 > > -Original Message- > From: "Allan Streib" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" >

Re: [MBZ] Electric Cars Anyone?

2008-07-18 Thread Tom Hargrave
ROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: 7/17/08 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric Cars Anyone? "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 40 kW = 43 HP = the perfect size for a 60s VW bus, plus plenty of > room for lead acid batteries & an internall

Re: [MBZ] Electric Cars Anyone?

2008-07-17 Thread Allan Streib
"Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 40 kW = 43 HP = the perfect size for a 60s VW bus, plus plenty of > room for lead acid batteries & an internally mounted diesel powered > generator I have a Vanagon and thought it might be a good platform for a hybrid conversion. I'd want at l

Re: [MBZ] Electric Cars Anyone?

2008-07-17 Thread Rich Thomas
You see, I said "thinking" which ain't the same as doing, but I am leaning to just keeping it as it is (well, get it running) and then having it "original" as gramps drove it. It is actually in quite good condition except for the interior which was a mouse house (I think I will call it the "Ha

Re: [MBZ] Electric Cars Anyone?

2008-07-17 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 6:14 AM, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Old Hondas etc seem to be good platforms for this kind of hacking. I > have my granddaddies 72 Datsun 510 wagon, I keep thinking it might be > fun to go electric with it. Ack! Haven't we been through this before? Please l

Re: [MBZ] Electric Cars Anyone?

2008-07-17 Thread Tom Hargrave
f Of John Robbins Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:35 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric Cars Anyone? Mitch Haley wrote: > Fortunately, we can now do banks of FETs which can handle hundreds of amps per > transistor, with resistance measured in milliohms. Yep!

Re: [MBZ] Electric Cars Anyone?

2008-07-17 Thread John Robbins
Mitch Haley wrote: > Fortunately, we can now do banks of FETs which can handle hundreds of amps > per > transistor, with resistance measured in milliohms. Yep! Good times :) > For instance, here's an electric motor throttle rated to handle 1200A > continuous > at 12v, with .0005 ohm resistan

Re: [MBZ] Electric Cars Anyone?

2008-07-17 Thread R A Bennell
Lots of info and interest out there on electric propulsion systems for boats too. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:12 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric Cars Anyone

Re: [MBZ] Electric Cars Anyone?

2008-07-17 Thread Curt Raymond
t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric Cars Anyone? To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Message-ID:     <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I saw an article in a local rag recently about someone converting a mid sized japanese car to electric

Re: [MBZ] Electric Cars Anyone?

2008-07-17 Thread Mitch Haley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Very difficult to drive at night, the switching relays were mounted low in > the rear. They made a most impressive light show almost constantly. Fortunately, we can now do banks of FETs which can handle hundreds of amps per transistor, with resistance measured in mill

Re: [MBZ] Electric Cars Anyone?

2008-07-17 Thread pm7088
During the early 80's, I worked for a major Nuclear Fuel Fabricator, since euthanized by a euro-trash takeover. One of our senior managers built a "Voltswagon". It was a Beatle, stuffed with deep cycle batteries with I believe a 48v motor. It had about a 10 mile range if driven conservatively

Re: [MBZ] Electric Cars Anyone?

2008-07-17 Thread Mitch Haley
Rich Thomas wrote: > A lot of people doing conversions use fork lift motors and deep-cycle > marine batteries (relatively cheap and easily acquired) and you do need > a controller of some sort. Back in the 1970's a fellow made a series hybrid from an Opel GT, with a 5hp Briggs engine, and a je

Re: [MBZ] Electric Cars Anyone?

2008-07-17 Thread Rich Thomas
A lot of people doing conversions use fork lift motors and deep-cycle marine batteries (relatively cheap and easily acquired) and you do need a controller of some sort. Here is one web site (and there are loads of them, just do a google search on electric car conversion or something similar).

Re: [MBZ] Electric Cars Anyone?

2008-07-16 Thread OK Don
I saw an article in a local rag recently about someone converting a mid sized japanese car to electric for around town trips. He claims to get 35 miles per charge with golf cart batteries. He used a "aircraft generator" for the engine. That's all the info provided, but it did re-stir an interest in

[MBZ] Electric Cars Anyone?

2008-07-16 Thread R A Bennell
Local college is competing in the solar powered car race from Plano Texas to Calgary Alberta. They are to be here on Saturday afternoon so I plan to go and have a closer look. Randy http://www.rrc.mb.ca/index.php?pid=2384&mid=3588&rid=301 ___ http://www.oki