I was in Guadalajara Mexico this Summer and there were car washers that were
pushing this, they seemed to be having a lot of success getting customers.
Surprised people would pay for this, sort of, luxury item.
Dan
82 300D-T 90kmi
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I understand it helps to prevent leaks with aluminum wheels. Exactly why, I
am not sure?
Randy
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Dan writes:
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> I was in Guadalajara Mexico this Summer and there were car
> washers that were pushing this, they seemed to be having a
> lot of success getting customers. Surprised people would pay
> for this, sort of, luxury item.
It's a brand extension of the oxygen bar.
Lee
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On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 12:40:11PM -0700, Tom Reynolds wrote:
> Yes, chemical reaction with compressed air and aluminum wheels, not so with
> inert nitrogen gas.
> Less tire filling. Yea!
Race cars use it. When I got new tires for the 78 300D, they offered it,
claiming that the nitrogen molecules
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> Yes, chemical reaction with compressed air and aluminum wheels,
> not so with inert nitrogen gas. Less tire filling. Yea!
>
> Tom
> SS, OK
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> I used to work for a guy who raced production and showroom stock motorcycles.
> Tech inspection required metal valve caps with gaskets inside. Unless you'
Plastic caps are useless except to keep dirt
out of the Schrader.
A worthy function, and worth the price of admission!
-- Jim
Where do you get these metal caps with gaskets? Motorcycle shop? I
don't think I've ever seen anything but the plain old plastic cheapies
at McParts.
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> And in a former life, I used to amateur race production sportbikes (a
> 1997 GSX-R750, to be exa
Alex Chamberlain wrote:
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> Where do you get these metal caps with gaskets? Motorcycle shop? I
> don't think I've ever seen anything but the plain old plastic cheapies
> at McParts.
I think you can get a blister pack of four at McParts, but I could be
wrong. Usually brass hex or octagon heads,
er 15, 2005 10:40 AM
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>Yep, I think I'm going to look around the Tulsa area for nitrogen fillups.
>Being more inert than the common air from compressed air pumps, it's a lot
&
fill & bleed out the nitrogen 3 - 4
>>times so that all of the air is purged out of the tire.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Tom Hargrave
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List,
Is that what the stores do who fill up tires with nitrogen?
Thanks,
Tom
At 09:49 AM 12/15/2005 -0600
your tires.
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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Tom Reynolds wrote:
Yep, I think I'm going to look around the Tulsa area for nitrogen fillups.
Being more inert than the common air from compressed air pumps, it's a lot
less likely to be affected by temperature changes. Anyone know of any
place in the Tulsa area that can fill up tires with nitr
So does Costco, as well as my favorite independent tire chain - neither
charges anything extra for it, and both are happy to check pressure and add
more anytime it's needed. But only Costco seems to use the neat green caps!
Rob
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Tom Reynolds wrote:
Actually, upon looking at the statement, "temperature changes will affect
nitrogen the same" that's not true. Being more inert (less water content)
than compressed air, a nitrogen filled tire will not be nearly as affected
by temperature variations as a compressed air filled
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The only reason for using Nitrogen is not in the tire performance aspect,
but important for a shop functioning in cold, subfreezing weather. Water
freezes. Compressor air has water in it. Purchased Nitrogen has no water in
it.
Shop tools, such as air driven impacts, hoist controls and what not, wil
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Doc,
Agrgavation? To me, aggravation is getting out in a cold, dark
parking lot, (whoops, I forgot windy) trying to find the valve, pushing
down my glasses so I can "see", checking the pressure, picking UP my
glasses, then finding the darned air pump either costs money or is somehow
defecti
There's water in the compressed air, but not in the nitrogen. That's what
makes it temperature sensitive.
Best,
Tom
At 10:16 AM 12/15/2005 -0800, you wrote:
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>Tom Reynolds wrote:
>> Actually, upon looking at the statement, "temperature changes will affect
>> nitrogen the same" that's not true.
Yes and no. There IS (believe me folks, I'm not making this up...) a
performance benefit. You know, for example, how engineers try to make a
chassis as stiff as possible? That's because if the chassis is stiff, it
takes a big variable out of suspension tuning. They can concentrate on the
pletho
Sounds like you guys need some new tires or cleaner wheels or something.
Unless I've got a slow leak my tires hold their pressure other than a couple
lbs difference summer to winter. In other words, I set the tire pressure in
the summer ones when I put them on at around 60-70 degrees and that's g
Remember, these people are selling a product, but that is their argiment:
http://www.whynitrofill.com/faq.htm
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> Sounds like you guys need some new tires or cleaner wheels or something.
>
> Unless I've got a slow leak my tires hold their pressur
Nitrogen has been used for specialty purposes in tires for years.
20 some odd years ago in college, one of my instructors ( who was a
retired big wig from the society of automotive engineers, and consultant
and board member to a number of regulatory agencies ) explained how some
of the car comp
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Sounds like you guys need some new tires or cleaner wheels or something.
Unless I've got
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Sounds like you guys
Hadn't thought about it that much, I would tend to agree with it. I also
hadn't heard about the problems with the "monitoring caps", though I can't
say that I've actually talked to anyone who's used them yet. But I guess it
doesn't sound like that much of a surprise. I guess I just still need on
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Schrader valves were never designed to be constantly fooled with, it's
no wonder those caps cause problems.
I drove for a trucking company a bunch of years
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> One morning I found a flat tire, ran out with the air
> hose and refilled it to see if I could get to Costso for a free fix - it
> held air but when I put the valve cap back on the air started flooding out!
I think any device that holds the schrader valve open is inhere
I don't think as fast, though. Ah well, it was just a conversation
starter. Anyone wanna talk about F1 or bike racing?
Tom
Sand Springs, OK
At 12:19 PM 12/15/2005 -0800, you wrote:
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>Tom Reynolds wrote:
>> Doc,
>>Agrgavation? To me, aggravation is getting out in a cold, dark
>> parkin
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I would only demand pharmaceutical grade nitrogen. No oils in it!!
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And what saves my tires - Nitro filled, of course - from being attackes on
the outside.
C'mon, is there any sense left in this crazy world?
Think of something stupid most normal people don't understand and tell 'em
it's the latest hi-tech stuff, and they will come and buy it, no matter what
the cos
Heck, I've seen and used plenty of tires that didn't have any caps at all.
And if the Shrader fails, those caps don't hol air (at least none of the
ones I've had on leaky valves). It might slow it down a bit, but the
Schrader is the one and only real valve as far as I'm concerned
Levi (:
On
Levi Smith wrote:
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> Heck, I've seen and used plenty of tires that didn't have any caps at all.
> And if the Shrader fails, those caps don't hol air (at least none of the
> ones I've had on leaky valves). It might slow it down a bit, but the
> Schrader is the one and only real valve as far as I
rumor has it that Sunil wrote:
> If there's a Tire Discounters where you are, they exclusively use nitrogen
> to fill all the tires they sell.
>
> I think it's a gimmick, though - you're not driving fast enough to really
> take advantage of the properties of nitrogen filling.
With the atmosphere
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rumor has it that Sunil wrote:
> If there's a Tire Discounters where you are, they exclusively use nitrogen
> to fill all the tires they sell.
>
> I think it's a gimmick, though - you're
And it's not categorically oil free either. We used medical grade
nitrogen as an oxidation prevention and pressure delivery for the
chemicals in the film processor I used to manage (Wing Lynch, if
anyone cares).
Don - who still has fixer in his blood --
> With the atmosphere (air) being
Like everything else, there are various degrees of purity -- 100% pure
is not guaranteed unless you pay for it.
On 12/15/05, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bottled nitroger is nothing but nitrogen. By default, this makes nitrogen
> moisture free.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave
> 256-656-192
filled the tires with 200psi nitrogen
It is my opinion that they used Nitrogen because that was the
easiest way to get 200 psi _anything_ that would be OK in a tire.
Most air compressors don't go up that high, but with 2-3kpsi in
a Nitrogen bottle it would be easy.
-- Jim
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> Bottled nitroger is nothing but nitrogen. By default, this makes
> nitrogen moisture free.
The bottled nitrogen typically has a dew point of -98 deg.C (-144.4
deg.F). It's pretty dry.
Craig
rumor has it that Mitch wrote:
> ... the valve is precisely radial to the axle, and the valves
> can open from centripetal force at 150mph, so the caps are needed)
Ya probably mean centrifugal force. Centripetal force is the pull
toward the center that counteracts inertia to keep the wheel.
In o
Try the paint ball guys. they have tanks of the stuff that powers
markers for the boys with too much cash and not enough sense
On Thursday, December 15, 2005, at 08:40 AM, Tom Reynolds wrote:
Yep, I think I'm going to look around the Tulsa area for nitrogen
fillups.
Being more inert than the
I find a nice mixture of (low fat) peanut butter and SPF 50 sunscreen works
wonders. You know, I wonder about the sunscreen...resists oxidation, maybe?
Tom Reynolds
Sand Springs, OK
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>And what saves my tires - Nitro filled, o
Hmm, never thught about it before, but you're right, even my little 500
sportbike has the perpendicular valvestems and the caps are definitely a lot
more rugged and metal. Don't know if they've got gaskets in there though, at
least now after 24 years.. (:
Levi
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