Re: [MBZ] I despise the W220

Subaru makes a decent Diesel but you can't get it here, at least not OE. http://jalopnik.com/383023/the-new-subaru-ee20-boxer-turbo-diesel-in-detail > -Original Message- > From: OK Don via Mercedes > > Yup - waiting for a reasonable no maintenance Diesel car to show up. >

Re: [MBZ] I despise the W220

together... -Curt From: Dimitri via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Dimitri <dsereta...@yahoo.com> Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I despise the W220 They have poor aesthetics, the m

Re: [MBZ] I despise the W220

They have poor aesthetics, the manufacturers steal/copy technology from more serious European marks such as Mercedes, they copy designs from European and American cars but execute them poorly and they decimated the American car market. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 2, 2017, at 2:59 AM,

Re: [MBZ] I despise the W220

Why are you down on Japanese cars, Dimitri? They are just another foreign car. Gerry Dimitri wrote: > Subaru wagon aka rugrumpermobile! > > OK Don wrote: > > Hence the Subaru we just bought. If our mission was just running into town, > > it would have been a Spark or similar, but it also needs

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One day I may drop an om648 into the 123. Ideally a rust free older gwagen though. On Apr 1, 2017 5:48 PM, "OK Don via Mercedes" wrote: > Yup - waiting for a reasonable no maintenance Diesel car to show up. > > On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <

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Yup - waiting for a reasonable no maintenance Diesel car to show up. On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > You are way off the reservation now. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Apr 1, 2017, at 2:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] I despise the W220

No one here buys any of the newer high end cars. They are all leased. If you buy it you pay 10% use tax up front and no one driving such cars wants to keep a new car long enough to recover that money, plus no one wants to bother with any serious maintenance, and they all start to get flakey before

Re: [MBZ] I despise the W220

;mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Scott Ritchey <ritche...@nc.rr.com> Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I despise the W220 We have been very happy with our 2008 (assembled in Indiana) Outback.  MPG is mediocre but we've only had to do scheduled maintenance.

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We have been very happy with our 2008 (assembled in Indiana) Outback. MPG is mediocre but we've only had to do scheduled maintenance. It's comfortable for average to smallish people, holds a reasonable amount (but much less than our discontinued 1986 Merican wagon), and is willing to go in

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I said jap on the her hitler list about 20 years ago and got banned, for life apparently. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 1, 2017, at 4:33 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes > wrote: > > Oh no jap crap! > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 1, 2017, at 11:23 AM, Dan Penoff via

Re: [MBZ] I despise the W220

From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com> Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I despise the W220 Agreed, or I would buy a generic Mazda or Nissan. -D

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Subaru wagon aka rugrumpermobile! Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 1, 2017, at 3:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > > Hence the Subaru we just bought. If our mission was just running into town, > it would have been a Spark or similar, but it also needs to be able to > drive

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Oh no jap crap! Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 1, 2017, at 11:23 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Agreed, or I would buy a generic Mazda or Nissan. > > -D > >> On Apr 1, 2017, at 11:13 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >>

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OK Don wrote: > Hence the Subaru we just bought. If our mission was just running into town, > it would have been a Spark or similar, but it also needs to be able to > drive us to the Grandkids in Boston when we have to get there and the > weather is too bad to fly. Lessee... Hertz, Avis, Budget,

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You are way off the reservation now. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 1, 2017, at 2:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > > Hence the Subaru we just bought. If our mission was just running into town, > it would have been a Spark or similar, but it also needs to be able to >

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Hence the Subaru we just bought. If our mission was just running into town, it would have been a Spark or similar, but it also needs to be able to drive us to the Grandkids in Boston when we have to get there and the weather is too bad to fly. On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Dan Penoff via

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If I did get an electric I would also purchase additional solar panels plus a Tesla battery to match up so I could recharge at night. On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Agreed, or I would buy a generic Mazda or Nissan. > > -D > > > On Apr

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Agreed, or I would buy a generic Mazda or Nissan. -D > On Apr 1, 2017, at 11:13 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > I would get a GM Spark, Smart electric, or similar if forced to purchase a > new vehicle. > > On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 12:42 AM, clay via

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I would get a GM Spark, Smart electric, or similar if forced to purchase a new vehicle. On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 12:42 AM, clay via Mercedes wrote: > The folks from MBCA local do not purchase new cars. There are a few > leased, but the bulk are second hand. There are a

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The folks from MBCA local do not purchase new cars. There are a few leased, but the bulk are second hand. There are a few who did purchase new, but the cars are much older. > On Mar 31, 2017, at 1:42 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > Which is why if I were

Re: [MBZ] I despise the W220

Which is why if I were forced to buy a new car, I'd buy merkun or korean Kaddylack (H) No indication of any rebound. I don't expect to see one unless there is a major worldwide depression, and people who buy new vehickes are interested in durability rather then image. The MBUSA bow ties

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I am not sure. The new stuff on the shop floor is looking more prastic and complicated. Much more stuff to go wrong. And in a very expensive way. Visiting the dealer yesterday I could tell the difference in the S500 and the Maybach S600. It looked really bedazzled, sort of junky costume

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: Friday, March 31, 2017 3:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I despise the W220 The w220 verifies my thoughts that the cars built by DBAG since 1995 are polished turds and no longer worthy of ownership.  The PnP yards are beginning to get increasing numbers of “newer” models.  The build quality rivals

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I feel that anything made past 1999 is not reliable after a decade. The price to keep it on the road begins to far exceed the value of the vehicle. These are what should be reasonable part replacements, not break the bank stuff. Finding the parts at PnP, they are in about the same worn

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On 31/03/2017 2:23 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: The w220 verifies my thoughts that the cars built by DBAG since 1995 are polished turds and no longer worthy of ownership. The PnP yards are beginning to get increasing numbers of “newer” models. The build quality rivals early korean cars.

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Sadly I need to drive it for a few months until I can get the SD into a very reliable condition. Nothing great, just make sure suspension is right. No big leaks, or little ones. Wires doing what they should, windows working well enough, ignition, lighting, some paint. clay > On Mar 31,

Re: [MBZ] I despise the W220

The w220 verifies my thoughts that the cars built by DBAG since 1995 are polished turds and no longer worthy of ownership. The PnP yards are beginning to get increasing numbers of “newer” models. The build quality rivals early korean cars. Used to see kia and hyundaiaia ia that were made of

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Is it just the S430? What other models/model years? On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 1:55 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 1:08 PM, clay via Mercedes > wrote: > > > I will be able to SELL the car again sometime in late April.

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On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 1:08 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: > I will be able to SELL the car again sometime in late April. > > > There I fixed it for you. - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

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If there was ever a poster child for the "There's no such thing as a cheap Mercedes", the W220 is it. This continues to validate my extrication from my previous S430. -D Sent from my iPad > On Mar 31, 2017, at 1:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > Wow,

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Wow, that's a harsh assessment. Thanks for letting me know when not to act on my impulses to purchase a bargain S class from the 90s. On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 1:08 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: > After more than five weeks, I picked up the S430 from the shop. It was >

[MBZ] I despise the W220

After more than five weeks, I picked up the S430 from the shop. It was there to have the speedo cluster dealt with. New part is $24xx.00. Sending the old part to Beckmann in NC was $900. But, that takes time for them to get it on the bench and made good. ANY how, the car was picked up,