Re: [MBZ] Kid's ticket

2011-11-19 Thread Brian Toscano
The laws, procedures, and chances of winning vary from state to state and region to region. In some states you cannot go to court for a ticket without a lawyer, while in others you can often win just by showing up on the court date. Some states will even initiate a plea agreement by mail

Re: [MBZ] Kid's ticket

2011-11-19 Thread Mitch Haley
Brian Toscano wrote: Nice idea about the dash cam. I wish I had one. Would have made an excellent youtube and court video and probably gotten a cop fired or demoted. The cops probably have one that has to be produced in the discovery phase if requested. Fairly good chance it shows the

Re: [MBZ] Kid's ticket

2011-11-19 Thread Allan Streib
Last year I went to court to contest a speeding ticket I got. The cop didn't appear so it was dismissed. I don't know how likely that it, but there's a chance. Allan Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net writes: Brian Toscano wrote: Nice idea about the dash cam. I wish I had one. Would have

Re: [MBZ] Kid's ticket

2011-11-19 Thread Dave Walton
Cops here used to get 4hrs paid time for making a 15 minute court appearance. Once they started paying them only for the time they spent in court they stopped showing up unless they were really pissed at you. Now we have traffic cams everywhere. It's a given that you can pay about any lawyer a

Re: [MBZ] Kid's ticket

2011-11-19 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote: Last year I went to court to contest a speeding ticket I got. The cop didn't appear so it was dismissed. I don't know how likely that it, but there's a chance. Some cops like getting an hour of OT for a court appearance, some don't like to mess up their day off.

Re: [MBZ] Kid's ticket

2011-11-19 Thread G Mann
http://www.pimall.com/nais/dv300.html Try this link to have a look at what I'm talking about.. there are many others. Some with two lens one to the front one to back and with GPS logging. All preserved on an SD card. All run from 12 volt power supply so car powered. Do a google search for Dash

Re: [MBZ] Kid's ticket

2011-11-19 Thread Fmiser
Kaleb wrote: .Well that's what the kid says but after looking at the ticket it says operating a vehicle not in a safe manner, pretty generic.. G Mann wrote: Good luck, Get a dash cam and make it hot any time the key is on. Ebay has some nice ones with long memory so you can do

Re: [MBZ] Kid's ticket

2011-11-19 Thread G Mann
The dash cam I would choose is the one with two lens.. one to front.. one to back and with GPS information, all logged in real time on SD card... google search for dash cam will give you lots of options. It would completely cure the he said / they said / arguement in court. Of course,, if you

Re: [MBZ] Kid's ticket

2011-11-19 Thread Mitch Haley
Fmiser wrote: How will a dash cam help? Won't it likely be pointing the wrong way? If the Hunter said, Cop said I was accelerating to fast, how is a camera on the dash going to help? What am I missing? The soundtrack? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For

Re: [MBZ] Kid's ticket

2011-11-19 Thread Tim C
How will a dash cam help? Won't it likely be pointing the wrong way? If the Hunter said, Cop said I was accelerating to fast, how is a camera on the dash going to help? Remember it also has GPS, so you have speed information also. You would also see the acceleration qualitatively, and if

Re: [MBZ] Kid's ticket

2011-11-19 Thread G Mann
On the subject of having an onboard camera that is always on. I have a business friend that runs a fleet of heavy trucks, each one is equipped with the GPS version and a loop recorder that refreshed after 45 min. So far, it has saved him numerous thousands in insurance claims after drivers did

Re: [MBZ] Kid's ticket

2011-11-19 Thread Greg Fiorentino
To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Kid's ticket Last year I went to court to contest a speeding ticket I got. The cop didn't appear so it was dismissed. I don't know how likely that it, but there's a chance. Allan Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net writes: Brian Toscano wrote: Nice

Re: [MBZ] Kid's ticket

2011-11-19 Thread Allan Streib
Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net writes: Here in WA the cop can submit an affidavit and not appear personally. I suppose if you subpoena him he must appear. In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State

Re: [MBZ] Kid's ticket

2011-11-19 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote: Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net writes: Here in WA the cop can submit an affidavit and not appear personally. I suppose if you subpoena him he must appear. In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right... Which is why they call it a 'civil

Re: [MBZ] Kid's ticket

2011-11-19 Thread Bob Rentfro
My knucklehead son was pulled over after making a wide turn (at 0230 hrs) and the deputy found him blasted. Blew a .273 which is super-extreme in AZ, mandatory minimum is $6K fine, 45 days in tent city plus you have to pay $75 a day to stay in tent city. Wonderful. Went to court with him last

Re: [MBZ] Kid's ticket

2011-11-19 Thread Allan Streib
Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net writes: In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right... Which is why they call it a 'civil infraction'. The last ticket I got was written as a misdemeanor. Misdemeanors are still crimes. If the prosecutor is involved, seems to me it must be

Re: [MBZ] Kid's ticket

2011-11-19 Thread Rich Thomas
I was on a jury in our little city in Houston, when some bimbo (from outside of town) decided to protest a speeding ticket she got in her Beemer, while wearing her pajamas, taking a borrowed suitcase back to the flight attendant who really wanted it back right damn now at 11:30 at night so she

Re: [MBZ] Kid's ticket

2011-11-19 Thread Craig
On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 19:58:03 -0700 Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: The judge told boy-child it's as if in never happenedfor now...because they have up to a year to file the paperwork. Dazzling. So he waits I imagine he will be rather circumspect as he waits, too. Perhaps that

Re: [MBZ] Kid's ticket

2011-11-18 Thread RELNGSON
.Well that's what the kid says but after looking at the ticket it says operating a vehicle not in a safe manner, pretty generic.. That's not the first description posted here and I think there is more to this story than you know right now. RLE ___

Re: [MBZ] Kid's ticket

2011-11-18 Thread G Mann
If you go to court and expect to win, hire a lawyer. Make sure the lawyer presses for disclosure from the cop ahead of time during deposition taken prior to ever going to court. Opposing council is required to provide all evidence in advance. Without a lawyer, you will set yourself up to be