Re: [MBZ] Mercedes and long term cost

2008-01-30 Thread Kevin Kraly
There was a reasonably nice '83 240D sitting in front of a house for a long time that I was interested in. It was suffering from a lack of maintenance including a very leaky primer pump and tight valves. He wanted to know what needed to be fixed. I told him that a valve adjustment would run

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes and long term cost

2008-01-30 Thread Tom Hargrave
Very true. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hendrik Fay Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 9:15 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes and long term cost Guess

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes and long term cost

2008-01-30 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Jan 29, 2008 6:04 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MB dealers here have made a very conscious effort to not service older cars. we have 4 dealers in atlanta, but none are interested in any car from the 20th century. Ha ha ha ha! Well put. The same is true here (Portland, OR).

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes and long term cost

2008-01-30 Thread E M
When I was last at the dealer, I parked between two other W124s that were in the lot waiting for service. We were in good company, sandwiched between a V12 twin turbo CL, and an AMG G-Wagon. When my Porsche dealer closed up and I went looking for a new one, I made a few calls and was told, oh,

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes and long term cost

2008-01-30 Thread OK Don
I think it's seven years. Not sure how long manufactures are required to continue support for a model; 10 years or so in most cases? It's nice to see companies that support their heritage Ed 300E -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes and long term cost

2008-01-29 Thread Gary Hurst
I remember when i first thought of getting a mercedes, everyone told me that any mercedes would bankrupt me as parts and service are prohibitively expensive. it's an urban legend. a w123 mercedes remains cheap to buy and keep. a w124 steps you up some in costs, but you get a whole lot more car.

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes and long term cost

2008-01-29 Thread E M
I've only had this benz about 8 months now, and a few weeks back, went to the dealer and got a full print out of all the service history, which has been dealer maintained from day one. It was a pretty thick folder, but what amazed me, going through the various things, is how competitive the

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes and long term cost

2008-01-29 Thread Gary Hurst
yeah, it makes such a difference. i got on teh good side of one dealer service manage and one very senior service writer in my life and it was like gold. On Jan 29, 2008 12:52 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've only had this benz about 8 months now, and a few weeks back, went to the dealer

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes and long term cost

2008-01-29 Thread Allan Streib
Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: yeah, it makes such a difference. i got on teh good side of one dealer service manage and one very senior service writer in my life and it was like gold. Unfortunately there is no MB dealer here and for my other cars (Ford, Nissan) the service writers and

[MBZ] Mercedes and long term cost

2008-01-29 Thread Tom Hargrave
I've found that all Mercedes cost money in front cost, maintenance cost or both. But I probably drive more miles / year than most on this list. I looked at my records for last year and the total for the year was 53,000 miles. Mercedes are even more costly / mile than the other cars I've owned.

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes and long term cost

2008-01-29 Thread Peter Frederick
My friend the mechanic had a customer who was a traveling salesman. He claimed the cheapest car for him was a Benz that cost around $15,000, with fairly low milage 70,000 or so) in good condition. He drove them to 250,000 or so, and have very few repairs, only normal maintenance cost.

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes and long term cost

2008-01-29 Thread ernest breakfield
hi Tom! i have to wonder what models you're talking about; my 123 300D hasn't cost nearly as much as my J**p XJ to feed and maintain, and my BMW GS Adv (not including farkles) is worth roughly half what it was worth new. (i don't have any experience with HDs, but see they're not

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes and long term cost

2008-01-29 Thread Hendrik Fay
The thing with a Merc is that you can spend the money on maintenance or you can spend the money on repairs plus towing, your choice. Hendrik who spends money on maintenance Tom Hargrave wrote: I've found that all Mercedes cost money in front cost, maintenance cost or both. But I probably

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes and long term cost

2008-01-29 Thread Hendrik Fay
And that is what we like people to believe, now shut up and remember to agree when someone says that Mercs are expensive to maintain. Hendrik who can keep a secret, unlike some Gary Hurst wrote: I remember when i first thought of getting a mercedes, everyone told me that any mercedes would

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes and long term cost

2008-01-29 Thread Curt Raymond
a (for instance) 2.5l YJ probably balances in favor of the Jeep but for long distance driving there is no comparison. Change the MB to a w201 2.2l 5spd and its over the other way. -Curt Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:22:56 -0800 From: ernest breakfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes and long term

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes and long term cost

2008-01-29 Thread Tom Hargrave
Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes and long term cost The thing with a Merc is that you can spend the money on maintenance or you can spend the money on repairs plus towing, your choice. Hendrik who spends money on maintenance Tom Hargrave wrote: I've found

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes and long term cost

2008-01-29 Thread Tom Hargrave
I just did - see my post to the list. Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: ernest breakfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 1/29/08 6:23 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes and long term cost hi Tom! i have to wonder what

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes and long term cost

2008-01-29 Thread Gary Hurst
MB dealers here have made a very conscious effort to not service older cars. we have 4 dealers in atlanta, but none are interested in any car from the 20th century. On Jan 29, 2008 1:03 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: yeah, it makes such a

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes and long term cost

2008-01-29 Thread Hendrik Fay
Guess the secret is to know which parts give trouble, like the plastic radiators. Hendrik Tom Hargrave wrote: I agree completely I replace a lot of items before most would. But I'd have no problem driving my 300SDL 800 miles tomorrow and it has just under 300,000 miles on it now. Tom

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes and long term cost

2008-01-29 Thread OK Don
I keep complete records on all the repairs, parts, fuel, oil, etc. on all the cars I've ever had - probably from working on Dad's airplane before I started on cars. I used to tally the costs and repairs every few years, and could tell you how much it cost to drive any of the cars. I still keep

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes and long term cost

2008-01-29 Thread Gary Hurst
some say that if you use correct coolant instead of cheap coolant that your cheap plastic radiator will last a lot longer it's like dog food. feed your dog alpo and watch him die young of cancer. On Jan 29, 2008 10:15 PM, Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guess the secret is to know which

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes and long term cost

2008-01-29 Thread Allan Streib
If you don't CHANGE ALL your FUSES NOW, your PISTONS will MELT. Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: some say that if you use correct coolant instead of cheap coolant that your cheap plastic radiator will last a lot longer it's like dog food. feed your dog alpo and watch him die young of