Re: [MBZ] OT: Focus wiring sheds insulation

2012-05-03 Thread Craig
On Wed, 02 May 2012 20:03:27 -0400 Mitch Haley wrote: > David Schaffnit wrote: > > Did not Mercedes have a very similar problem in the late 1990’s with > > the E-Class engine wiring harness? > > The biodegradable wiring was made in the early 1990s, became a problem > in the late 1990s/early 21st

Re: [MBZ] OT: Focus wiring sheds insulation

2012-05-02 Thread Mitch Haley
David Schaffnit wrote: Did not Mercedes have a very similar problem in the late 1990’s with the E-Class engine wiring harness? The biodegradable wiring was made in the early 1990s, became a problem in the late 1990s/early 21st century. Anybody have a comprehensive list of which years/models

Re: [MBZ] OT: Focus wiring sheds insulation

2012-05-02 Thread David Schaffnit
Did not Mercedes have a very similar problem in the late 1990’s with the E-Class engine wiring harness? At least in some environments the engine wiring harness insulation cracked and led to engine computer malfunction all be it a relative simple system the repair was relatively expensive since

Re: [MBZ] OT: Focus wiring sheds insulation

2012-04-30 Thread Allan Streib
On the Rockauto site, if you shop for an evaporator, there is a cautionary note about "extensive" work being required. Allan Dan Penoff writes: > On a 124 chassis, I seem to recall the flat rate time being in the range of > 20 hours. Take note that this is flat rate time, so it assumes a know

Re: [MBZ] OT: Focus wiring sheds insulation

2012-04-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
stupid iphone, rifle, or a shotgun. On 4/30/2012 2:15 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: What's a "riffle"? Dan On Apr 30, 2012, at 2:37 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: Or a riffle in the back window Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2012, at 1:30 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: That sucks. Not an option down he

Re: [MBZ] OT: Focus wiring sheds insulation

2012-04-30 Thread Dan Penoff
On a 124 chassis, I seem to recall the flat rate time being in the range of 20 hours. Take note that this is flat rate time, so it assumes a knowledge of the operation, all the required tools, and some prior experience with the operation. As for the Focus, I don't now, but given the dealer's fl

Re: [MBZ] OT: Focus wiring sheds insulation

2012-04-30 Thread Dan Penoff
Gotcha. Thanks for clearing that up for me. Dan On Apr 30, 2012, at 3:31 PM, Craig wrote: > On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:15:30 -0400 Dan Penoff wrote: > >> What's a "riffle"? > > Rifle, a long gun with a single barrel. Just like trifle is a long gun > with three barrels. :-) > > > Craig > > __

Re: [MBZ] OT: Focus wiring sheds insulation

2012-04-30 Thread Brian Toscano
How hard is to pull the evaporator? My second-hand Subaru had numerous A/C problems and I think the previous owner let it run low (means low oil charge as well) enough that it caused a noisy compressor. I had the high pressure hose off the A/C leak through the membrane (common problem) and the ex

Re: [MBZ] OT: Focus wiring sheds insulation

2012-04-30 Thread Craig
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:15:30 -0400 Dan Penoff wrote: > What's a "riffle"? Rifle, a long gun with a single barrel. Just like trifle is a long gun with three barrels. :-) Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To searc

Re: [MBZ] OT: Focus wiring sheds insulation

2012-04-30 Thread Dan Penoff
What's a "riffle"? Dan On Apr 30, 2012, at 2:37 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > Or a riffle in the back window > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 30, 2012, at 1:30 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > >> That sucks. Not an option down here. AC is mandatory, sort of like driving a >> pickup and having

Re: [MBZ] OT: Focus wiring sheds insulation

2012-04-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Or a riffle in the back window Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2012, at 1:30 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > That sucks. Not an option down here. AC is mandatory, sort of like driving a > pickup and having a pistol under the seat in Texas. > > Dan > > On Apr 30, 2012, at 2:23 PM, Allan Streib wrote:

Re: [MBZ] OT: Focus wiring sheds insulation

2012-04-30 Thread Dan Penoff
That sucks. Not an option down here. AC is mandatory, sort of like driving a pickup and having a pistol under the seat in Texas. Dan On Apr 30, 2012, at 2:23 PM, Allan Streib wrote: > Mine loses the charge in a day or two. Already tried the stop-leak route, > too big a leak apparently. Just

Re: [MBZ] OT: Focus wiring sheds insulation

2012-04-30 Thread Allan Streib
Mine loses the charge in a day or two. Already tried the stop-leak route, too big a leak apparently. Just living without. Allan On Mon, Apr 30, 2012, at 09:28 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: > My AC evaporator was supposedly leaking, according to the dealer, but I > popped a can of the Wallyworld R134a

Re: [MBZ] OT: Focus wiring sheds insulation

2012-04-30 Thread Dan Penoff
of refrigerant occasionally can be tolerated fairly well. ;<) > > Wilton > > - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff" > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 9:55 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Focus wiring sheds insulation >

Re: [MBZ] OT: Focus wiring sheds insulation

2012-04-30 Thread WILTON
ot; Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 9:55 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Focus wiring sheds insulation That's on a Ford Focus, not a 124 chassis. BTDT, too. Only that one I paid for. Ouch. Dan On Apr 30, 2012, at 9:38 AM, "WILTON" wrote: Only $1600!? Down $600 from 4 years ago.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Focus wiring sheds insulation

2012-04-30 Thread Dan Penoff
; > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 9:28 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Focus wiring sheds insulation > > >> My AC evaporator was supposedly leaking, according to the dealer, but I >> popped a can of the Wallyworld R134a with stop l

Re: [MBZ] OT: Focus wiring sheds insulation

2012-04-30 Thread WILTON
Only $1600!? Down $600 from 4 years ago. ;<) Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Focus wiring sheds insulation My AC evaporator was supposedly leaking,

Re: [MBZ] OT: Focus wiring sheds insulation

2012-04-30 Thread Dan Penoff
My AC evaporator was supposedly leaking, according to the dealer, but I popped a can of the Wallyworld R134a with stop leak in it and it's been fine ever since. It seemed to lose efficiency every 4-6 months, so I had them take a look. When they told me it was an evaporator leak ($1600) I passed

Re: [MBZ] OT: Focus wiring sheds insulation

2012-04-30 Thread Allan Streib
Ours has 149,000 miles. We've had broken strut springs, a transmission problem, failed AC evaporator, collapsed motor mounts, and now this. Allan On Mon, Apr 30, 2012, at 07:11 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: > Both of mine are on the top side of 100,000 miles. > > My 2004 wagon has a little over 150k

Re: [MBZ] OT: Focus wiring sheds insulation

2012-04-30 Thread Mitch Haley
Fmiser wrote: Good idea. Like test lead wire. I should use that to repair the wires at the door hinge on my 123 cars. Being able to afford a selection of colors would be the problem... If you only need a few inches, this might work: http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXEWT8&P=

Re: [MBZ] OT: Focus wiring sheds insulation

2012-04-30 Thread Dan Penoff
Both of mine are on the top side of 100,000 miles. My 2004 wagon has a little over 150k and the son's 2005 sedan has almost 170k. Both run very well and have been very good maintenance-wise. The most expensive item to-date has been tires. After that, the son's sedan needed a new shifter ($300)

Re: [MBZ] OT: Focus wiring sheds insulation

2012-04-29 Thread Max
Same issue applies to 124 wagons; been there fixed that. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

Re: [MBZ] OT: Focus wiring sheds insulation

2012-04-29 Thread Allan Streib
Brian Toscano writes: > Heat shrink or electrical tape sounds like a good fix. > > I know insulation/electrical problems exist on other makes, but one would > think Ford would learn how to make an automobile without such problems. > Ford vehicles have been catching fire decades and even burning

Re: [MBZ] OT: Focus wiring sheds insulation

2012-04-29 Thread Fmiser
> > Dan Penoff wrote: > > > > I'm going to check mine out next weekend just to see. Can't > > hurt to be preemptive. > Mitch wrote: > > I'd put some silicone insulated, ultraflexible wires with a > bazillion strands in there if I had to fix something like that. Good idea. Like test lead wire.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Focus wiring sheds insulation

2012-04-29 Thread Brian Toscano
Heat shrink or electrical tape sounds like a good fix. I know insulation/electrical problems exist on other makes, but one would think Ford would learn how to make an automobile without such problems. Ford vehicles have been catching fire decades and even burning people's houses down. On Sun

Re: [MBZ] OT: Focus wiring sheds insulation

2012-04-29 Thread Mitch Haley
Dan Penoff wrote: Hmm. Don't recall seeing that one. I noticed that some of the respondents mention that it's not commonly seen after 2003/4, which may be why I haven't experienced it. I'm going to check mine out next weekend just to see. Can't hurt to be preemptive. I'd put some silicone

Re: [MBZ] OT: Focus wiring sheds insulation

2012-04-29 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote: Rick Knoble writes: The tail light assemblies melt also. We've seen that in ours, though the problem seemed to stop after I replaced the bulbs. I was able to salvage the plastic assembly with some filing. I assumed someone had put over-wattage bulbs in at some point.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Focus wiring sheds insulation

2012-04-29 Thread Dan Penoff
Hmm. Don't recall seeing that one. I noticed that some of the respondents mention that it's not commonly seen after 2003/4, which may be why I haven't experienced it. I'm going to check mine out next weekend just to see. Can't hurt to be preemptive. Dan On Apr 29, 2012, at 7:34 PM, Allan S

Re: [MBZ] OT: Focus wiring sheds insulation

2012-04-29 Thread Allan Streib
Dan Penoff writes: > I drive a 2004 ZTW (wagon) and my youngest son drives a 2005 ZT5 sedan. > > I follow a couple of Focus forums an have never heard of this being an > issue. Here's a thread discussing it: http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=218110 Mine had one wire complet

Re: [MBZ] OT: Focus wiring sheds insulation

2012-04-29 Thread Allan Streib
Rick Knoble writes: > The tail light assemblies melt also. We've seen that in ours, though the problem seemed to stop after I replaced the bulbs. I was able to salvage the plastic assembly with some filing. I assumed someone had put over-wattage bulbs in at some point. Allan -- 1983 300D 197

Re: [MBZ] OT: Focus wiring sheds insulation

2012-04-29 Thread Dan Penoff
ving. Dan Rick Knoble wrote: > >> From: str...@cs.indiana.edu >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 17:16:23 -0400 >> Subject: [MBZ] OT: Focus wiring sheds insulation >> >> I believe I've consulted the wisdom of this group at least

Re: [MBZ] OT: Focus wiring sheds insulation

2012-04-29 Thread Rick Knoble
> From: str...@cs.indiana.edu > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 17:16:23 -0400 > Subject: [MBZ] OT: Focus wiring sheds insulation > > I believe I've consulted the wisdom of this group at least once before > about an electrical problem with our 200

Re: [MBZ] OT: Focus wiring sheds insulation

2012-04-29 Thread Dan Penoff
I drive a 2004 ZTW (wagon) and my youngest son drives a 2005 ZT5 sedan. I follow a couple of Focus forums an have never heard of this being an issue. My wagon is a Florida car that commuted annually to Rhode Island for the summers, so it's never really experienced anything in the way of seasons

[MBZ] OT: Focus wiring sheds insulation

2012-04-29 Thread Allan Streib
I believe I've consulted the wisdom of this group at least once before about an electrical problem with our 2003 Ford Focus wagon. The problem began with the rear wiper working erratically, then not at all, then if and only if the rear defroster was on. Fuses began blowing. Last week wife called