Re: [MBZ] OT: japanese reactor mess now potentially rivals chernobyl?

2011-04-12 Thread Peter Frederick
-Original Message- From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Sent: Apr 11, 2011 10:03 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT: japanese reactor mess now potentially rivals chernobyl? http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-04-12/japan-nuclear-crisis-may-be-raised-to-highest-severity

Re: [MBZ] OT: japanese reactor mess now potentially rivals chernobyl?

2011-04-12 Thread Rich Thomas
...@cs.indiana.edu Sent: Apr 11, 2011 10:03 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT: japanese reactor mess now potentially rivals chernobyl? http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-04-12/japan-nuclear-crisis-may-be-raised-to-highest-severity-level-on-radiation.html Considering that several of the air

Re: [MBZ] OT: japanese reactor mess now potentially rivals chernobyl?

2011-04-12 Thread Peter Frederick
So far supposedly it's only iodine 131, which is less nasty than, say, burning plutonium, but very serious. 1/10th the amount released from Chernobyl, but that was the core vaporizing, so there was lots more heavy stuff than iodine. I don't remember what the daughter products of decay are,

Re: [MBZ] OT: japanese reactor mess now potentially rivals chernobyl?

2011-04-12 Thread Rich Thomas
http://mitnse.com/ On 4/12/2011 11:10 AM, Peter Frederick wrote: So far supposedly it's only iodine 131, which is less nasty than, say, burning plutonium, but very serious. 1/10th the amount released from Chernobyl, but that was the core vaporizing, so there was lots more heavy stuff than

Re: [MBZ] OT: japanese reactor mess now potentially rivals chernobyl?

2011-04-12 Thread Peter Frederick
-Original Message- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Apr 12, 2011 10:17 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: japanese reactor mess now potentially rivals chernobyl? http://mitnse.com/ On 4/12/2011 11:10 AM

Re: [MBZ] OT: japanese reactor mess now potentially rivals chernobyl?

2011-04-12 Thread LWB250
exposures) between $50-$100. I think I'll hold on to mine for now... Dan --- On Tue, 4/12/11, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: japanese reactor mess now potentially rivals chernobyl? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes

Re: [MBZ] OT: japanese reactor mess now potentially rivals chernobyl?

2011-04-12 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Don't forget that the wind was blowing out to sea during the worst of this event, so there is no data at all for ground deposition while the reactors and cooling ponds were generating radioactive steam -- it all

Re: [MBZ] OT: japanese reactor mess now potentially rivals chernobyl?

2011-04-12 Thread Peter Frederick
and will be concentrated by living organisms. Peter -Original Message- From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com Sent: Apr 12, 2011 1:02 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: japanese reactor mess now potentially rivals chernobyl? On Tue, Apr 12

Re: [MBZ] OT: japanese reactor mess now potentially rivals chernobyl?

2011-04-12 Thread Rich Thomas
It's all stuck in the oil from the Gulf spill that migrated to England's beaches. --R On 4/12/2011 2:02 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Peter Frederickpsf...@earthlink.net wrote: Don't forget that the wind was blowing out to sea during the worst of this event,

Re: [MBZ] OT: japanese reactor mess now potentially rivals chernobyl?

2011-04-12 Thread andrew strasfogel
Good point about the Strontium 90. That stuff is wicked. Why isn't it being mentioned, or is Sr90 solely a byproduct of nuclear testing? On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: It's all stuck in the oil from the Gulf spill that migrated to

Re: [MBZ] OT: japanese reactor mess now potentially rivals chernobyl?

2011-04-12 Thread Peter Frederick
@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: japanese reactor mess now potentially rivals chernobyl? Good point about the Strontium 90. That stuff is wicked. Why isn't it being mentioned, or is Sr90 solely a byproduct of nuclear testing? On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td

Re: [MBZ] OT: japanese reactor mess now potentially rivals chernobyl?

2011-04-12 Thread Craig
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 01:37:10 -0400 Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: Walt, who is contemplating calling the NRC and hazmat about the suspicious amount of radiation at a banana warehouse, just to see the media circus that will ensue... Potassium-240. Yes, bananas are high in potassium;

Re: [MBZ] OT: japanese reactor mess now potentially rivals chernobyl?

2011-04-12 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Potasium chloride salt-substitute will also set the counter off. Get enough of it (few pounds iirc) and you can start to fog film! Walt On Apr 13, 2011 12:08 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 01:37:10 -0400 Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: Walt, who is

[MBZ] OT: japanese reactor mess now potentially rivals chernobyl?

2011-04-11 Thread Allan Streib
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-04-12/japan-nuclear-crisis-may-be-raised-to-highest-severity-level-on-radiation.html If it doesn’t find a long term solution to the large quantities of highly radioactive water flowing out of the reactors, the scale of the disaster could end up exceeding

Re: [MBZ] OT: japanese reactor mess now potentially rivals chernobyl?

2011-04-11 Thread Walt Zarnoch
I highly doubt that. All they need to do is stop the flow of water after the decay heat has died down a bit more, pump in some borated concrete or some other nice neutron poison, and call it entombed. it'll still be an ugly scar on the face of the earth, but far from an entire village being nearly