Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options

2012-02-14 Thread Brian Toscano
Nice stuff Jim! I noticed you had an article in DDJ. I used to read that all the time. I actually had the pleasure of meeting *Bob* Albrecht along the Oregon coast a few summers ago. Brian On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: > A PPC is a kick-ass bit twizzler compared to a M

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options

2012-02-14 Thread Jim Cathey
A PPC is a kick-ass bit twizzler compared to a MIPS. Exactly as it was designed to do, being a RISC processor. Both are RISC processors. But I think the MIPS went a tiny bit too far. The PPC has a barrel shifter, as any RISC could, and the PPC gives fairly good control over it. The PPC also

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options

2012-02-14 Thread Brian Toscano
Superscalar vs super-piplined. Take your pick. On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > A SSH login on it takes 5 seconds >> of SW crunching to exchange the keys. The sad part >> is that its predecessor only takes 7 seconds to do >> the same thing, using a 50

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options

2012-02-14 Thread Dieselhead
A SSH login on it takes 5 seconds of SW crunching to exchange the keys. The sad part is that its predecessor only takes 7 seconds to do the same thing, using a 50 MHz PPC processor! A PPC is a kick-ass bit twizzler compared to a MIPS. -- Jim Exactly as it was designed to do, being a RISC proc

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options

2012-02-13 Thread Brian Toscano
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] > On Behalf Of Brian Toscano > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 2:58 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options > > What kind of read and write speeds are you getting?

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options

2012-02-13 Thread Scott Ritchey
enz.com] On Behalf Of Brian Toscano Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 2:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options What kind of read and write speeds are you getting? I've read the synology are very good. My GigE switch is my ZyXEL DSL router. Will I need a pro sw

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options

2012-02-13 Thread Dan Penoff
>>>> migrating computers. Just store key information with the software >>>> >>>> -----Original Message- >>>> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto: >> mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] >>>> On Behalf Of Brian Toscano >>&g

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options

2012-02-13 Thread Brian Toscano
; >> -Original Message- > >> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto: > mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] > >> On Behalf Of Brian Toscano > >> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 11:05 PM > >> To: Mercedes Discussion List > >> Subject:

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options

2012-02-13 Thread Dan Penoff
m [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] >> On Behalf Of Brian Toscano >> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 11:05 PM >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options >> >> I've been doing more homework on the NAS idea. Synology 211j seems

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options

2012-02-13 Thread Brian Toscano
age- > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] > On Behalf Of Brian Toscano > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 11:05 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options > > I've been doing more homework on the NAS idea

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options

2012-02-13 Thread Scott Ritchey
cedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Brian Toscano Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 11:05 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options I've been doing more homework on the NAS idea. Synology 211j seems like an attractive 2-bay unit that gets great reviews. I thi

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options

2012-02-12 Thread Brian Toscano
I've been doing more homework on the NAS idea. Synology 211j seems like an attractive 2-bay unit that gets great reviews. I think I may get it and drop my 2TB media hard drive and my 1TB time machine in it. The alternative will to get a FW800 3TB drive for my desktop. I'd still like to have acc

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options

2012-02-07 Thread Ed Booher
Is that why my electric bills are $6,000 a month? Huh. On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 12:15 AM, Tim C wrote: > On Feb 6, 2012 10:18 PM, "Craig" wrote: > > > > > * The other day a friend and I were discussing setting up a Cisco lab > > > so we could work on our CCIEs. The entry cost was low but we > >

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options

2012-02-06 Thread Tim C
On Feb 6, 2012 10:18 PM, "Craig" wrote: > > > * The other day a friend and I were discussing setting up a Cisco lab > > so we could work on our CCIEs. The entry cost was low but we > > calculated something on the order of $10/day for a half-dozen routers' > > power! > > $10 1 kWh 1 day

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options

2012-02-06 Thread Craig
> * The other day a friend and I were discussing setting up a Cisco lab > so we could work on our CCIEs. The entry cost was low but we > calculated something on the order of $10/day for a half-dozen routers' > power! $10 1 kWh 1 day 1 --- x - x - x - = 694 watts per rout

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options

2012-02-06 Thread Brian Toscano
I do not like optical storage either. Capacity is too small and they're too unpredictable. I've be given CD's that can only be read on 1/3 machines I've tried. But I'm not trying to build a data center at my house either. I've been through that enterprise-at-the-house phase in my life about 15-

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options

2012-02-06 Thread Tim C
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > There is a guy who hosts a Cisco lab for just what you are talking about. You > can find him at: > > Http://packetlife.net/lab/ That's great! Thanks! -Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options

2012-02-06 Thread Dan Penoff
There is a guy who hosts a Cisco lab for just what you are talking about. You can find him at: Http://packetlife.net/lab/ Dan On Feb 6, 2012, at 1:15 PM, Tim C wrote: > On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Ed Booher wrote: >> Again, cloud storage is live, spinning discs. Build your own. :) It'

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options

2012-02-06 Thread Tim C
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Ed Booher wrote: > Again, cloud storage is live, spinning discs. Build your own.  :)  It's > where I'm leaning. Last night I was reading webhostingtalk since I was in the market for a new VPS vendor. I happened upon an old thread where they were discussing someon

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options

2012-02-06 Thread Ed Booher
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Ed Booher wrote: > > Yes, and I've had cold discs die on me, too. Whether it was down time of > the motor, or they somehow came in contact with magnetic field. Go to spin > them up, only to have them with so many bad sectors that they are useless. > In my opinion,

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options

2012-02-06 Thread Ed Booher
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: > Ed, > > I'm not really interested in having a rack with expensive hardware that > makes noise and sucks power. I play with expensive stuff at work all day > long and don't feel like dealing with it at home. > > I completely disagree that the

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options

2012-02-06 Thread Dan Penoff
the Drobo was >> capable of. I guess in local mode they're okay but over the network - >> gross... >> >> -Curt >> >> Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 13:41:34 -0700 >> From: Brian Toscano >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options

2012-02-06 Thread Brian Toscano
d have been one of our drive > letters. I was significantly under-impressed with what the Drobo was > capable of. I guess in local mode they're okay but over the network - > gross... > > -Curt > > Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 13:41:34 -0700 > From: Brian Toscano > To: Mer

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options

2012-02-06 Thread Curt Raymond
hat should have been one of our drive letters. I was significantly under-impressed with what the Drobo was capable of. I guess in local mode they're okay but over the network - gross... -Curt Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 13:41:34 -0700 From: Brian Toscano To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options

2012-02-05 Thread Dan Penoff
I have a rack like you describe in my garage, but it's only powered up for a short time each day for replication purposes. I had seriously considered doing my own Web hosting and the like until I realized I would probably spend more money on electricity than I pay for hosting. I do have an ent

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options

2012-02-05 Thread Brian Toscano
Ed, I'm not really interested in having a rack with expensive hardware that makes noise and sucks power. I play with expensive stuff at work all day long and don't feel like dealing with it at home. I completely disagree that the NAS with RAID is the backup. What if you delete some files by acc

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options

2012-02-05 Thread Ed Booher
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: > Ed, > > Currently I have local hard drives connected to my laptop with FireWire and > maintain 2 sets of the same files, one lossless and one AAC128. The AAC128 > files are stored on my laptop hard drive. The lossless files are on the > exte

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options

2012-02-05 Thread Brian Toscano
Ed, Currently I have local hard drives connected to my laptop with FireWire and maintain 2 sets of the same files, one lossless and one AAC128. The AAC128 files are stored on my laptop hard drive. The lossless files are on the external drives. I would like to get the hard drives off my desk to

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options

2012-02-05 Thread Ed Booher
Darn, that means you are 8,697 songs outside a free cloud solution :) On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: > iTunes says 28,697. > ALAC. > > -- "Das beste oder nichts." - *Gottlieb Daimler* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go t

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options

2012-02-05 Thread Ed Booher
Brian, I think we need to reverse the thought process here and ask from another direction. How much can you truly afford to invest *right now* for a quality NAS. Forget cost vs. quality for the time, or what OS the NAS will run, or even how large it will be. You need a number first, then you can s

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options

2012-02-05 Thread Brian Toscano
iTunes says 28,697. ALAC. On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Ed Booher wrote: > On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Brian Toscano >wrote: > > > Hey all, > > > > I've got about 1.2TB in Lossless music files from my ripped CD > collection, > > etc. I ripped in Lossless so I would never need to do it

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options

2012-02-05 Thread Ed Booher
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: > Hey all, > > I've got about 1.2TB in Lossless music files from my ripped CD collection, > etc. I ripped in Lossless so I would never need to do it again. Then I > converted everything to AAC128 for iTunes. Ok, so I have to ask, how *many*

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options

2012-02-03 Thread OK Don
http://www.raspberrypi.org/ ? , but it's not out quite yet. On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: > Thank for the link. What's the cheapest I can put together a small, quiet, > and energy efficient box to run it on ? > > On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Tim C wrote: > > > On Fri

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options

2012-02-03 Thread Brian Toscano
Thank for the link. What's the cheapest I can put together a small, quiet, and energy efficient box to run it on ? On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Tim C wrote: > On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Brian Toscano > wrote: > > Unless it was a Linux based appliance that cost less than the NAS. > >

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options

2012-02-03 Thread Brian Toscano
I too have read about TC reliability issues. My main interests are ability to stream lossless audio across WiFi, speed of backup to 2nd set of drives, easy of use, quiet & energy efficient. I do not specifically need/want a computer for this purpose unless it turns out to be the most cost effecti

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options

2012-02-03 Thread Tim C
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: > Unless it was a Linux based appliance that cost less than the NAS. Literally yesterday: http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/01/how-to-set-up-a-home-file-server-using-freenas/ Best, -Tim has not tried it > On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Brian

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options

2012-02-03 Thread Dan Penoff
I would also avoid a Time Machine, as they have a less than stellar reputation for reliability. For what you spend on a Time Machine you could have the makings of a pretty decent RAID box that would give you a lot more flexibility along with redundancy. Dan On Feb 3, 2012, at 12:30 PM, Brian

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options

2012-02-03 Thread Dan Penoff
I can tell you from direct experience that you probably don't want a Drobo FS, their NAS solution. The only caveat here is if speed is not an issue, such as for backups or archiving. The FS is a slug across a GB network, and often has enough latency to cause issues with high bandwidth media.

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options

2012-02-03 Thread Brian Toscano
Unless it was a Linux based appliance that cost less than the NAS. On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Brian Toscano wrote: > If I was going to go the 2nd computer route, I'd just get a MacMini and > hang the external drives off that. I was really looking for a simple NAS > that had high throughpu

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options

2012-02-03 Thread Brian Toscano
If I was going to go the 2nd computer route, I'd just get a MacMini and hang the external drives off that. I was really looking for a simple NAS that had high throughput. I've seen USB-NAS devices for $40 but I can't imagine backing up a few TB through USB. On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Craig

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options

2012-02-03 Thread Craig
On Fri, 3 Feb 2012 10:30:42 -0700 Brian Toscano wrote: > I am wondering if anyone has used any SAN products with Mac and can > share their experience. > > I started reading this: > > https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3128395?start=0&tstart=0 > > I wouldn't mind a Time Capsule, but the cost

[MBZ] OT - Mac NAS options

2012-02-03 Thread Brian Toscano
Hey all, I've got about 1.2TB in Lossless music files from my ripped CD collection, etc. I ripped in Lossless so I would never need to do it again. Then I converted everything to AAC128 for iTunes. That way it fits on my laptop hard drive, and makes it relatively easy to sync with my iPod. The