Re: [MBZ] OT Boeing 737 Max 8 info

2019-03-16 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
AMEN! Software strikes again. Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote on 3/16/19 9:23 AM: I'm no aircraft engineer, but in my experience in other things, this is strictly a software/sensor issue. Most aircraft have a stall prevention system, and any aircraft prone to "unrecoverable" stalls like

Re: [MBZ] OT Boeing 737 Max 8 info

2019-03-16 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
I'm no aircraft engineer, but in my experience in other things, this is strictly a software/sensor issue. Most aircraft have a stall prevention system, and any aircraft prone to "unrecoverable" stalls like T-tail rear engine jets have one that will overpower the pilot. However, every pilot

Re: [MBZ] OT Boeing 737 Max 8 info

2019-03-16 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
> -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew > Strasfogel via Mercedes > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 11:51 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Andrew Strasfogel > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Boeing 737 Max 8

Re: [MBZ] OT Boeing 737 Max 8 info

2019-03-13 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
You forgot the president of the Senate. 546. -- Jim > On Mar 13, 2019, at 10:02 AM, Craig via Mercedes > wrote: > > On Wed, 13 Mar 2019 11:34:43 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > >> Out of 546 goobers, there are only about a dozen or maybe 2 that have >> half a brain. (or more)

Re: [MBZ] OT Boeing 737 Max 8 info

2019-03-13 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 13 Mar 2019 11:34:43 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: > Out of 546 goobers, there are only about a dozen or maybe 2 that have > half a brain. (or more) > > 435 > 100 > robed maggots > commander in chief > __ > 546 435 + 100 + 9 + 1 = 545 Craig

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2019-03-13 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Out of 546 goobers, there are only about a dozen or maybe 2 that have half a brain. (or more) 435 100 robed maggots commander in chief __ 546 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote on 3/13/19 11:06 AM: The idiot senator from Connecticut, Blumenthal, was on NPR yesterday evening bloviating

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2019-03-13 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
--FT wrote: > ...It is amazing that we have such ignorant idiots elected to "represent" us. Why waste time listening to ANY media - move along, nothing to see there. Reality is not mental. tin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] OT Boeing 737 Max 8 info

2019-03-13 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
The idiot senator from Connecticut, Blumenthal, was on NPR yesterday evening bloviating complete nonsense about the issue. It is amazing that we have such ignorant idiots elected to "represent" us.  It was a new low, even for NPR, to give this guy the air time. --FT On 3/13/19 11:57 AM,

Re: [MBZ] OT Boeing 737 Max 8 info

2019-03-13 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
If they get the flight data recorder it will have all kinds of settings and parameters recorded from which the engineers should be able to understand exactly what the airplane and pilots were doing.  They can then run that through the simulators and see exactly what might have caused the

Re: [MBZ] OT Boeing 737 Max 8 info

2019-03-13 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Peter wrote: > Sounds more like the "handshake behind the barn" days... Ahh... those were the days, my friend, we thought they'd never end. Those days are what make america great. again? We complain too many people on the planet, we complain about pollution and water and warming. Lose some

Re: [MBZ] OT Boeing 737 Max 8 info

2019-03-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Big nagging question in my mind - how do they replicate the failure when testing? On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 8:03 AM Peter Frederick via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The difficulty is that a single point failure (flaky attitude sensor in > this case) causes an un-needed actuation and

Re: [MBZ] OT Boeing 737 Max 8 info

2019-03-13 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
The difficulty is that a single point failure (flaky attitude sensor in this case) causes an un-needed actuation and severe nose down pitch without warning the pilots, who are well aware of what the plane is doing. Having the "stick" snatched out of your hands by the computer without warning

Re: [MBZ] OT Boeing 737 Max 8 info

2019-03-12 Thread tyee165 via Mercedes
or don't?Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A Original message From: Peter Frederick via Mercedes Date: 2019-03-12 8:44 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Peter Frederick Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Boeing 737 Max 8 info Sounds more like the "handshake behind the barn&

Re: [MBZ] OT Boeing 737 Max 8 info

2019-03-12 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Sounds more like the "handshake behind the barn" days in the early 70's that resulted in a DC-10 door blowout and the loss of a plane load of passengers. Secret agreements and sweeping issues under the rug in airliner safety results in dead passengers, always a bad idea. If there is something

Re: [MBZ] OT Boeing 737 Max 8 info

2019-03-12 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 20:09:59 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > Looks like Boeing was slow on the uptake to fix the problem. > > https://www.dallasnews.com/business/airlines/2019/03/12/boeing-737-max-8-pilots-complained-feds-months-suspected-safety-flaw Can you spell "class-action suit"?

[MBZ] OT Boeing 737 Max 8 info

2019-03-12 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Looks like Boeing was slow on the uptake to fix the problem. https://www.dallasnews.com/business/airlines/2019/03/12/boeing-737-max-8-pilots-complained-feds-months-suspected-safety-flaw - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search