On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 11:38:57 -0500 Mountain Man via Mercedes
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> Scott wrote:
> > GPS is the most accurate time source available...
>
> Is there calculation in the display time on whatever device for time
> consumed in getting signal to receiver? Sure, it is insignificant to
> average Joe,
Scott wrote:
> GPS is the most accurate time source available...
Is there calculation in the display time on whatever device for time
consumed in getting signal to receiver? Sure, it is insignificant to
average Joe, but I would guess that there is a calculation from
geo-synchronous orbit to groun
GPS is the most accurate time source available to the average Joe. All GPS
receivers "know" the time with sub-microsecond accuracy; but what's
displayed or output is another matter. On the other hand, humans are only
good to about a tenth of a second.
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On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 19:00:16 -0500 fmiser via Mercedes
wrote:
> > Curley wrote:
> >
> > you can hook any winders computer directly to a NIST (or
> > other) time server.
>
> That is using an NTP server. It should keep the clock within
> a second or so. Sometimes that's not accurate enough. Radi
I used a CDMA smartphone for a camera today, the timestamps on the pics were about 20 hours slow. It was in airplane mode so it couldn't update, but it was synchronized this past weekend and has never been turned off since. I would not depend on a cell phone to display to the second accuracy at an
> Max wrote
>
> I found a couple places that sell time-sync devices for
> data centers, they use CMDA signals from Sprint and
> Verizon,
Curley wrote:
you can hook any winders computer directly to a NIST (or
other) time server.
That is using an NTP server. It should keep the clock within
a
On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 17:17:06 -0500 Mountain Man via Mercedes
wrote:
> Craig wrote:
> > Since the GPS satellites are controlled from Falcon Air Force Station
> > just east of Colorado Springs...
>
> ...small correction... was Falcon Air Force Base - Base was/is capable
> of landing vehicles, evid
On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 10:35:25 -0400 WILTON via Mercedes
wrote:
> He put his watch up beside mine and suddenly realized that he was
> checking his watch against Mickey Mouse's arms and black-gloved hands
> pointing to the appropriate hour and minute. We both burst out
> laughing as he realized I w
Craig wrote:
> Since the GPS satellites are controlled from Falcon Air Force Station
> just east of Colorado Springs...
...small correction... was Falcon Air Force Base - Base was/is capable
of landing vehicles, evidently - Wilton?
Today the place is known as Schriever AFB www.schriever.af.mil.
Ye
Mitch wrote:
> Oh, I thought you were timing the watch against a reliable standard, like
>
> http://time.gov/
I like timeticker.com which is prolly the same as time.gov?
mao
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Yup - did it years ago when I set up the first email system for the agency
I worked at. This PC is also getting time from NIST - it's required for
some of the amateur radio digital communications protocols.
On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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realized I was not the God-to-fear he had thought. The young
lieutenant relaxed, and he and the entire crew performed very well for
the rest of the mission.
Wilton
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I found a couple places that sell time-sync devices for data centers, they
use CMDA signals from Sprint and Verizon, say that the CDMA base stations
each has a GPS receiver for the time signal which is traceable back to the
NIST atomic clock.
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Charleston SC
> Timing is critical
On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 10:39:52 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
wrote:
> That's a good one Wilton.
>
> I will see if I can figure out what standard is used by my phone (Sprint
> network). I also have an old hand-help GPS receiver, I may fire that up
> and see what it says.
Timing is critical for
Probably WWV, National Institute of Standards and Technology broadcast from
Ft. Collins, CO.
Wilton
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Oh, I thought you were timing the watch against a reliable standard, likehttp://time.gov/
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I like to listen to the Beeb do there time checks
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On 7/27/16 10:39 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
That's a good one Wilton.
I will see if I can figure out what standard is used by my phone (Sprint
network). I also have an old hand-help GPS receiver, I may fire that up
and see what
That's a good one Wilton.
I will see if I can figure out what standard is used by my phone (Sprint
network). I also have an old hand-help GPS receiver, I may fire that up
and see what it says.
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Max
Charleston SC
On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 10:35 AM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:
> Yes.
not the God-to-fear he had thought.
The young lieutenant relaxed, and he and the entire crew performed very well
for the rest of the mission.
Wilton
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You should have watched (get it, watched?) the DNC last night -- all
your clapping and arm waving would have got it wound up tight.
WOOWOO!
--FT
On 7/27/16 8:53 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
This a.m., the watch had gained 42s compared to yesterday morning. I left
it on edge last nig
This a.m., the watch had gained 42s compared to yesterday morning. I left
it on edge last night, and yesterday I manually wound it several times. It
is now just 7s slower than my smart phone, which should be a reliable time
standard against which to compare the watch, no?
I'm going to just wear
: [MBZ] OT Seiko 5 SNK809 one week update
On July 26, 2016 at 10:54 PM Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:Tie it to your tar on the way to work. That oughtta charge it up right good. Remember the 1970's Timex commercials?"It takes a licking and keeps on ticking"I remember one w
Max wrote:
I've found that vigorous winding by swirling the watch for
a few minutes will cause it to gain a few seconds. Maybe
my life is too sedentary?
Yeah, probably. You need a hobby. Like splitting wood, or
shaking paint cans, or driving roofing nails. Maybe even
table tennis would do.
On July 26, 2016 at 10:54 PM Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:Tie it to your tar on the way to work. That oughtta charge it up right good. Remember the 1970's Timex commercials?"It takes a licking and keeps on ticking"I remember one where a mechanic broke the bracelet while mounting a tire, and did
Tie it to your tar on the way to work. That oughtta charge it up right good.
--R (sent from my miniPad)
On Jul 26, 2016, at 10:30 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes
wrote:
Ok Peter, Mitch, I will resist the urge and try to live with it. Thanks again
for your advice. I've found that vigorous windi
Ok Peter, Mitch, I will resist the urge and try to live with it. Thanks again
for your advice. I've found that vigorous winding by swirling the watch for a
few minutes will cause it to gain a few seconds. Maybe my life is too
sedentary?
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
I did exactly that. Once I learned how to sharpen screwdrivers
properly I can usually get a watch apart and back together without
breaking anything.
Bent up hairsprings are the very worst, followed closely by replacing
staffs on balances and replacing jewels.
Peter
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Be very very careful if you attempt to move the regulator lever -- and
don't confuse it with the lever that adjusts the "beat" -- centering
the balance and
I forgot it was an exhibition back. Rather than use a rubber ball on the glass, I'd buy a proper watch spanner and engage the notches near the edge. Or listen to Peter and let it wear in. Warm = slow, so I'd expect it to slow down more if you wear it overnight. I once had a Chinese cheap-o that st
Be very very careful if you attempt to move the regulator lever -- and
don't confuse it with the lever that adjusts the "beat" -- centering
the balance and hairspring on the fork.
It is VERY easy to stick something into the balance spring while
attmepting to nudge the lever the very tiny am
If that doesn't work you could try a bit of super glue and something to
attach to it, then scrape/dissolve off the glue.
--FT
On 7/26/16 6:40 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
The glass back gives me pause. I'd rather try the rubber ball trick first I
think, but thanks for the info.
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The glass back gives me pause. I'd rather try the rubber ball trick first I
think, but thanks for the info.
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Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
On July 26, 2016 6:37:41 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
wrote:
>I see on DX or Banggood those watch wrenches for really cheap. I woul
I see on DX or Banggood those watch wrenches for really cheap. I would
think that any scratches would over time get polished down by the
rubbing on your arm?
--FT
On 7/26/16 6:30 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
Thanks Mitch and Peter for your thoughts. I do believe I'm going to get
th
Thanks Mitch and Peter for your thoughts. I do believe I'm going to get
that Kong "tool" and give that a try. Worst case if that tool fails is
that I have a nice gift for someone's dog. I will also leave the watch on
edge tonight to see if that helps.
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Max
Charleston SC
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On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 17:56:35 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
wrote:
> The hole makes the contact away from the center where you can impart
> some torque.
>
> No risk of tool marks that way, although a good case back spanner
> should stay in the notches and not scar it up either, but the bal
On July 26, 2016 at 4:07 PM Craig via Mercedes wrote:On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 14:56:12 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:You need the Kong scratch free back remover tool, and then you can givethe speed adjuster a little bump.https://www.amazon.com/KONG-Ball-Dog-Medium-Large/dp/B0002DHOJAAnd h
Wear it to bed. And do not mess about with the innards, you are much
more likely to make it worse than better without a timing machine --
in my experience Seiko regulators are a pain to move small amounts.
16-17 sec/day is a bit much, but not a shock for a watch that may have
been sitting
On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 14:56:12 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
wrote:
> You need the Kong scratch free back remover tool, and then you can give
> the speed adjuster a little bump.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/KONG-Ball-Dog-Medium-Large/dp/B0002DHOJA
And how does one take the back off a watch
Mitch,
Link was broken, please try again
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Charleston SC
On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 1-10 seconds is normal, but factory spec is 20s, IIRC.
>
> Not 'send it back' bad, but clearly nothing to be happy with.
>
> N
1-10 seconds is normal, but factory spec is 20s, IIRC. Not 'send it back' bad, but clearly nothing to be happy with. None of my $25 Chinese watches were off by more than 12 seconds that I can recall. You need the Kong scratch free back remover tool, and then you can give the speed adjuster a littl
I read a bunch of the Q&A on Amazon, and learned that manually winding the
watch can increase the speed, so I spent a few minutes swirling the watch
around (no hacking feature in the movement) and it has only lost 3s in the
last 6 hours, so I think it's doing a little better.
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Max
Cha
Give him a BRAKE.
On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 10:42 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Have you CHECKED all the FUSES?
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 9:07 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Doooh! I was trying so hard...
> > --
> > Max
Have you CHECKED all the FUSES?
On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 9:07 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Doooh! I was trying so hard...
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> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
>
> On July 26, 2016 10:01:14 AM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okieben
Doooh! I was trying so hard...
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Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
On July 26, 2016 10:01:14 AM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
wrote:
>You need to tighten the watch
>
>--FT
>
>
>On 7/26/16 8:48 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> After about 6 days of use, the watch looses abou
You need to tighten the watch
--FT
On 7/26/16 8:48 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
After about 6 days of use, the watch looses about 16-17 seconds per day (I
wear it all day and take it off at night). Apparently I need to move to a
colder climate, which would affect the watch by speeding
After about 6 days of use, the watch looses about 16-17 seconds per day (I
wear it all day and take it off at night). Apparently I need to move to a
colder climate, which would affect the watch by speeding up the movement?
What says the watch experts on the list, should I be happy with a lose of
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