[MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Dan Penoff
Curious as to the list's opinions on regular Dino oil for use in the 1992 300E. I have run two changes of Mobil1 to quiet the lifters, which it has done. I want to go back to a conventional oil for cost reasons. Not a lot of miles being put on it and a starving college student driving it. I am

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Gerry Archer
How does the cost per mile work out when you consider the longer change interval with Mobil 1? Gerry From: "Dan Penoff" Curious as to the list's opinions on regular Dino oil for use in the 1992 300E. I have run two changes of Mobil1 to quiet the lifters, which it has done. I want to go back

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Dan Penoff
I don't do longer change intervals, even with M1. Dan On Feb 13, 2013, at 1:12 PM, Gerry Archer wrote: > How does the cost per mile work out when you consider the longer change > interval with Mobil 1? > Gerry > > From: "Dan Penoff" > > >> Curious as to the list's opinions on regular Dino

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I would use the delvac 1300 Sent from my iPhone On Feb 13, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: > Curious as to the list's opinions on regular Dino oil for use in the 1992 > 300E. I have run two changes of Mobil1 to quiet the lifters, which it has > done. I want to go back to a conventional o

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Max Dillon
Only three negatives I can see: lifter noise may return, can't do extended oil change intervals, and slight increase in engine wear. Lifter noise is no big deal, no damage is being done. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Dan Penoff wrote: >Curious as to the lis

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Max Dillon
Save your used Mobil 1 for me? I'll be in Tampa again later this summer. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Dan Penoff wrote: >I don't do longer change intervals, even with M1. > >Dan > >On Feb 13, 2013, at 1:12 PM, Gerry Archer >wrote: > >> How does the cost per m

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Yeah, that or Rotella T. Diesel oil is the new conventional oil for older cars. On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > I would use the delvac 1300 > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 13, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: > > > Curious as to the list's opinions on regular

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Dan Penoff
In a gasser? I thought Delvac was only used in diesels? Dan On Feb 13, 2013, at 1:27 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > I would use the delvac 1300 > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 13, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: > >> Curious as to the list's opinions on regular Dino oil for use in

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Its fine for gas engines also. (Its on the label). They will have reasonable amounts of ZDDP. On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > In a gasser? I thought Delvac was only used in diesels? > > Dan > > On Feb 13, 2013, at 1:27 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin" > wrote: > > > I would use

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Dan Penoff
Really? What is the rationale? I am curious about this. What about some of this high mileage stuff that the major oil companies hype? I know Rotella very well, as it was a standard for all kinds of stationary diesels, but we never put it in a gasser. Dan On Feb 13, 2013, at 2:23 PM, Jaime Ko

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Dan Penoff
So for those of you who are doing Mobil1 in a gasser, what kind if change intervals are you running. 5000? 7500? Thanks, Dan On Feb 13, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Max Dillon wrote: > Only three negatives I can see: lifter noise may return, can't do extended > oil change intervals, and slight increase

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I use it in everything except my cdi which requires that expensive esp oil Sent from my iPhone On Feb 13, 2013, at 1:23 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > Yeah, that or Rotella T. > > Diesel oil is the new conventional oil for older cars. > > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin w

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
It's geared toward diesels but its perfect in a gasser, probably overkill but that was I just have to stock one oil Sent from my iPhone On Feb 13, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > In a gasser? I thought Delvac was only used in diesels? > > Dan > > On Feb 13, 2013, at 1:27 PM, "Kaleb C.

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I would say 10-15k or more. On the fss system like my 99 e430 you use m1 and it starts off at 10k and adjusts up or down depending on driving. I have not tracked the miles on that one just change it when it tells me to Sent from my iPhone On Feb 13, 2013, at 1:38 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > So fo

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I would say 10-15k or more. On the fss system like my 99 e430 you use m1 and it starts off at 10k and adjusts up or down depending on driving. I have not tracked the miles on that one just change it when it tells me to Yes, on my 1999 e320 the FSS starts out at 10,000

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Your 300E has a M103 or M104? I don't remember if the cutoff is 1992 or 1993. Jaime On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > So for those of you who are doing Mobil1 in a gasser, what kind if change > intervals are you running. 5000? 7500? > > Thanks, > > Dan > > On Feb 13, 2013,

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
It factors in starts and stops engine starts, idle time etc Sent from my iPhone On Feb 13, 2013, at 2:06 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: >> I would say 10-15k or more. On the fss system like my 99 e430 you use m1 and >> it starts off at 10k and adjusts up or down depending on

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
The 104 came in the 300e in 93 Sent from my iPhone On Feb 13, 2013, at 2:12 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > Your 300E has a M103 or M104? I don't remember if the cutoff is 1992 or > 1993. > > Jaime > > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > >> So for those of you who are doi

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Dan Penoff
M103, I believe. Dan On Feb 13, 2013, at 3:12 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > Your 300E has a M103 or M104? I don't remember if the cutoff is 1992 or > 1993. > > Jaime > > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > >> So for those of you who are doing Mobil1 in a gasser, what ki

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Feb 13, 2013 12:19 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > > The 104 came in the 300e in 93 I always remember that the engine change came a year before the badge change to E320, because there is some goofball on the PeachParts forums who insists that his '93 was mislabeled at the factory and should b

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
The guy is a moron Sent from my iPhone On Feb 13, 2013, at 3:14 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: > On Feb 13, 2013 12:19 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: >> >> The 104 came in the 300e in 93 > > I always remember that the engine change came a year before the badge > change to E320, because there is

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Dan Penoff
So are you guys saying that an extended interval on the 300E could realistically be 10k? I just checked and we have been doing 7500. I thought it was more like 5k, but I don't do much in the way of work on the car - the youngster does it for the most part unless it's something major. Dan Sent

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread OK Don
12,000 + miles, based on analysis by Larry. On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > So for those of you who are doing Mobil1 in a gasser, what kind if change > intervals are you running. 5000? 7500? > > Thanks, > > Dan > > -- > OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Gra

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread clay monroe
My thoughts would be the same as with green coolant. AS long as you swap it out religiously, you are probably ok. I have been thinking recently about the models I see on the road for our Tri-star cars. Not a statistically significant example of vergassers over the age of 18 years. I can be

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread clay monroe
I run the diesel oil in Froggy. She is having issue with oil pressure and a thicker oil in her hot engine seems to make her happier. On Feb 13, 2013, at 11:27 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: > In a gasser? I thought Delvac was only used in diesels? > > Dan > > On Feb 13, 2013, at 1:27 PM, "Kaleb C. St

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Max Dillon
10k miles. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Dan Penoff wrote: >So for those of you who are doing Mobil1 in a gasser, what kind if >change intervals are you running. 5000? 7500? > >Thanks, > >Dan > >On Feb 13, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Max Dillon >wrote: > >> Only three ne

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Mitch Haley
Dan Penoff wrote: So are you guys saying that an extended interval on the 300E could realistically be 10k? The V6, with fleece filter and 0W40 oil, sure. I had a couple of gallons of 5W40 on hand when I bought the e320 which was due for a change, so I used that, but it's not exactly 'right' f

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Benz Hogs
My ML is running around 10K intervals. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 "Max" (161,xxx mi) On 2/13/2013 1:52 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I would say 10-15k or more. On the fss system like my 99 e430 you use m1 and it starts off at 10k and adjusts up or down depending on driving. I

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Brian Toscano
I would use Chevron Delo 15w-40 or Mobil Delvac 1300 15w-40. Never really cared for Rotella. On Wednesday, February 13, 2013, Benz Hogs wrote: > My ML is running around 10K intervals. > > Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL > '98 ML320 "Max" (161,xxx mi) > > On 2/13/2013 1:52 PM, Kaleb C. Stripli

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-14 Thread Curt Raymond
Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino) Message-ID: <58401359-afc4-48cf-b649-611d35b0c...@penoff.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I don't do longer change intervals, even with M1. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new a

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-14 Thread Dan Penoff
sidering he doesn't drive the car in the winter or in the rain is > probably about good. > > -Curt > > Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 13:13:50 -0500 > From: Dan Penoff > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino) > Message-ID: <58401359-afc4-48cf-b6

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-14 Thread Curt Raymond
14:05:43 -0500 From: Dan Penoff To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino) Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Just to clarify, I have been changing the 300E at 5,000 mile intervals, not 3,000. I had 3,000 on the brain from doing diesels. I am going to stre

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-14 Thread Dan Penoff
Because I have an extraction unit with clean sample bottles/tubes and prepaid mailers. One of the tools I used regularly for over 20 years in the generator business. I just fill out the data sheet that goes with the sample and he'll get the results emailed to him within 72 hours of the sample a

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-14 Thread Tony Wirtel
> > Curious as to the list's opinions on regular Dino oil for use in the 1992 > 300E. I have run two changes of Mobil1 to quiet the lifters, which it has > done. I want to go back to a conventional oil for cost reasons. Not a lot > of miles being put on it and a starving college student driving it.

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-14 Thread Curt Raymond
tever I want, just have to ask. CarQuest even carries some RoyalPurple. Not all the weights but they'd order different weights if I wanted them. -Curt Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:07:27 -0500 From: Tony Wirtel To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino) Message-ID: Content-T

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-14 Thread Brian Toscano
gt; Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:07:27 -0500 > From: Tony Wirtel > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino) > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > > Curious as to the list's opinions on regular Dino oil for u

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-14 Thread Dieselhead
I think there is a V-Twin 20w-50. castrol 20w-50 has been around for at least 40 years. It used to be good. I don't think much of castrol products for the past 20 years. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search l

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-15 Thread Dan Penoff
ve to >> ask. CarQuest even carries some RoyalPurple. Not all the weights but they'd >> order different weights if I wanted them. >> >> -Curt >> >> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:07:27 -0500 >> From: Tony Wirtel >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >&g

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-15 Thread Curt Raymond
if you use the "energy conserving" oil that can happen but that badge isn't on the 5w40. -Curt Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:20:22 -0700 From: Brian Toscano To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino) Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-15 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote: I used M1 5w40 in my motorcycles (both asian bikes) with excellent results. Loads of people told me I'd have troubles with clutch slippage but I haven't seen that. I guess if you use the "energy conserving" oil that can happen but that badge isn't on the 5w40. Back in th

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-15 Thread Dan Penoff
There were all sorts of anecdotal stories about synthetics and the havoc they wreaked on clutches in the Virago forum I belonged to. Mobil1 also made a lot of statements and disclaimers regarding the reason for the different type of oil for air cooled engines/bikes, and how the additives they h

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-15 Thread OK Don
Regular Auto M1 (I forget which weight) worked just fine in the '84 R100 BMW I had years ago. On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > There were all sorts of anecdotal stories about synthetics and the havoc > they wreaked on clutches in the Virago forum I belonged to. Mobil1 also >

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-15 Thread Curt Raymond
bastard if its been sitting any amount of time, just slightly less so. -Curt Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 15:45:13 -0500 From: Mitch Haley To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino) Message-ID: <511e9e59.5000...@voyager.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-15 Thread clay monroe
erent weights if I wanted them. > > -Curt > > Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:07:27 -0500 > From: Tony Wirtel > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino) > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >> >> Curious as to

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-16 Thread Curt Raymond
Is that also the v-twin motorcycle oil or am I learning about something new? A quick google check shows just the v-twin in 20w50. -Curt Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 21:28:52 -0800 From: clay monroe To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino) Message-ID: <57023540-e74b-431c-9

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-16 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote: Is that also the v-twin motorcycle oil or am I learning about something new? A quick google check shows just the v-twin in 20w50. All I've ever seen is 20w50 bike oil and 15w-50 (red cap/label) car oil, and that's dating back to the introduction of the 15w-50 over 25 years

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-19 Thread Tim Crone
> Not a statistically significant example of vergassers over the age of 18 years. I can be certain that any Benz over the age of 21 is going to be a diesel. Maybe that says more about Seattle than Mercedes; plenty of old gasmobiles in North Carolina. Here diesels are the oddballs. Best, Tim __

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-19 Thread Mitch Haley
What's with the sudden influx of old messages? Did the Red Lobster return from the islands? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change deli

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-19 Thread Max Dillon
Ya mon! Kaleb - Aspirin, Tylenol, Advil: which painkiller works for you will be your best friend to help you with the pain from the Radiation Burns. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Mitch Haley wrote: >What's with the sudden influx of old messages? >Did the Red L

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-20 Thread OK Don
It's snowing here, if he's back, he can lie on his back and make snow angels while cooling off the burn --- On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Max Dillon wrote: > Ya mon! Kaleb - Aspirin, Tylenol, Advil: which painkiller works for you > will be your best friend to help you with the pain from the R

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-20 Thread Randy Bennell
On 20/02/2013 11:51 AM, OK Don wrote: It's snowing here, if he's back, he can lie on his back and make snow angels while cooling off the burn --- On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Ya mon! Kaleb - Aspirin, Tylenol, Advil: which painkiller works for you will be your best friend

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-20 Thread OK Don
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: > On 20/02/2013 11:51 AM, OK Don wrote: > >> It's snowing here, if he's back, he can lie on his back and make snow >> angels while cooling off the burn --- >> >> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Max Dillon ** >> wrote: >> >> Ya mon! Kaleb -

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-20 Thread clay monroe
What are you seeing? Could be the demographics, as you point out. More people here into alternative things and doing hippy stuff. BioD makes them happy and it is hipster-er to have a common man car on veg or hemp oil. Gas cars would be more executive and less hipster to drive. Diesel is si