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Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:05:28 -0700
From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Parking car in gear
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On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 09:27:35 +1030 Hendrik
On Nov 26, 2007 3:21 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As for the suggestion to leave the lever in neutral so that the lever
wouldn't get stuck in 'P' if the parking brake didn't hold on a hill,
would you rather return to your car to find tension on the parking
pawl, or perhaps it's
I have always been puzzelled how a car can continiously by held in
position by the compression of 1 cylinder by leaving it in gear
It's not compression, really. Just plain old friction.
-- Jim
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Peter:
I don't have any knowledge to add, but I want to celebrate someone
else's willingness to ask such an open question without flinching at
the inevitable scorn from the seasoned.
Brian
On 11/25/07, Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have always been puzzelled how a car can continiously
I saw a F250 Powerstroke go for a walk once on a lightly sloped parking lot.
We came out of the store, and it was about six feet farther back than we
left it. I wasn't driving, but I'm pretty sure it could not have been in
creeper or reverse. The owner's driveway is steeper than that parking lot
So you're gonna test this by removing the spark plugs and parking on the
side of a hill?
Let us know how you got on.once you're out of
hospital..and got the insurance monkeys off your
back.and the missus lets you back in the house if you promise to
behave.well
I've had the same thing happen in an old air-cooled Beetle.
Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I saw a F250 Powerstroke go for a walk once on a lightly sloped
parking lot. We came out of the store, and it was about six feet
farther back than we left it. I wasn't driving, but I'm pretty
If you were parked on a steep enough hill it will start to roll back a
little. When I first started driving before I got my first car I drove
my dads old 76 Ford F100 with a 3 on the tree. On a steep hill it would
roll back slightly. We are not talking sudden rolling, it would just
start to
, November 26, 2007 7:54 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Parking car in gear
If you were parked on a steep enough hill it will start to roll back a
little. When I first started driving before I got my first car I drove
my dads old 76 Ford F100 with a 3 on the tree. On a steep
Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Isn't there also pressure against a pin/stop of some sort? I was
always taught to use park with e-brake. And, when on a hill/slope,
e-brake and neutral with no park.
In my 300D when I park, I set the parking brake while holding the car
with the foot
Streib
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 8:05 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Parking car in gear
Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Isn't there also pressure against a pin/stop of some sort? I was
always taught to use park with e-brake. And, when on a hill/slope,
e
I saw something like that in Akron about 35 years ago on a sloped parking lot.
About 15 cars slid out of their spaces when the owners parked warm tires on an
iced lot. Interesting to drive through. I don't think compression leak-down
had anything to do with that one.
BillR
Jacksonville FL
test this by removing the spark plugs and parking on the
side of a hill?
Spork plags? What're those? :-)
-- Jim
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That happens all the time here in the mountains. Four brakes engaged on iced
parking lot might hold the vehicle but just the drive wheels in park, you
shut the car door and the car slides away like a hockey puck.
The owner's manual on the 300D gives emergency instructions on how to jump
start the
the windows.
-Curt
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 08:02:49 -0700
From: Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Parking car in gear
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Isn't there also pressure against a pin/stop
Auto boxes have a parking engagement device, however I STRONGLY
recommend that everyone get in the habit of using the hand brake, even
on flat ground.
My Mum had an experience recently whereby the car chased her because she
didn't put the car in P properly and either she did not pull on the
Hendrik Fay wrote:
Auto boxes have a parking engagement device, however I STRONGLY
recommend that everyone get in the habit of using the hand brake, even
on flat ground.
My employer at the Saab shop lost a parking pawl about 20 years ago.
He left the car in the handicap spot closest to the
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 09:27:35 +1030 Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hendrik
who likes the RHD 123 dash mounted hand brake and wonders how you do a
smooth hill start in a manual car with a foot operated park brake (eg.
the 124's)
Make sure the foot operated brake is well set.
Put
McCluskey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 27 November 2007 07:05
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Parking car in gear
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 09:27:35 +1030 Hendrik Fay
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Hendrik
who likes the RHD 123 dash mounted hand brake and wonders how you do a
smooth
I have always been puzzelled how a car can continiously by held in
position by the compression of 1 cylinder by leaving it in gear ( manual
tranny ) . One would think that eventually ( after a few
seconds/minutes ) the rings will leak air and the car would then lurch
fwd and then start a runway.
I'll tell you: I don't know. - Tevye the milkman in Fiddler on the Roof.
When one cylinder leaks down and the crankshaft turns, another
comes up on the compression stroke. Or so it seems to me.
The attempt to move the car with the transmission in any gear
requires turning the engine faster
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