Re: [MBZ] R107 chubb

2012-03-24 Thread clay monroe
Day late, dollar short. While discussing the deal with SWMBA the car slipped through my fingers.. into the hand of the fellow who had yet to put money on the table. He picked it up for his 18 year old daughter for $8500. Having a truck take it to Vancouver BC for her birthday. clay On Mar

Re: [MBZ] R107 chubb

2012-03-24 Thread clay monroe
And yet he keeps on swinging!!! Went out today to look at the SL I missed getting a look at in January due to the Seattle style blizzard. Seller had to be out of town on work to Hawai'i instead of hanging out in the rain for three months. 1974 two tone 450SL. Body is one of these green

Re: [MBZ] R107 chubb

2012-03-23 Thread clay monroe
1983 380SL Timing chain was checked 10k ago and was fine On Mar 22, 2012, at 8:17 PM, Max wrote: Year? 560? 380? 450? 350? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used

Re: [MBZ] R107 chubb

2012-03-23 Thread John Freer
Converted to dual chain? If not, run. John Sent from my iPad On Mar 23, 2012, at 9:49 AM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: 1983 380SL Timing chain was checked 10k ago and was fine On Mar 22, 2012, at 8:17 PM, Max wrote: Year? 560? 380? 450? 350? -- Max Dillon Charleston

Re: [MBZ] R107 chubb

2012-03-23 Thread clay monroe
Maybe next week. I have three other SL I am checking out this weekend in that price range. I am finding that price range is full of compromised examples. I have seen others that are closer to 10k that are also needs help. On Mar 22, 2012, at 9:59 PM, Kevin Kraly wrote: Come on down to

Re: [MBZ] R107 chubb

2012-03-23 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mar 23, 2012 9:53 AM, John Freer mbfo...@gmail.com wrote: Converted to dual chain? If not, run. I will sell Clay the engine from my POS Euro 500SEL for $500. That would make a nice swap into a 380. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For

Re: [MBZ] R107 chubb

2012-03-23 Thread clay monroe
Ah, no conversion clay On Mar 23, 2012, at 9:56 AM, John Freer wrote: Converted to dual chain? If not, run. John Sent from my iPad On Mar 23, 2012, at 9:49 AM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: 1983 380SL Timing chain was checked 10k ago and was fine On Mar 22, 2012, at

Re: [MBZ] R107 chubb

2012-03-23 Thread clay monroe
All fresh hoses and rubber under the hood. PO was not mechanically inclined and just had dealer do all the work. ACC works, because the guy wanted the car fully functional and paid through the nose for that job. clay On Mar 22, 2012, at 5:01 PM, OK Don wrote: Green coolant means a new

Re: [MBZ] R107 chubb

2012-03-23 Thread clay monroe
I really want a 280 engine. No need for V8 guzzling and lack of power because it got detuned anyway. Dual banks of things to go wrong with V8, and twice the expense. clay On Mar 23, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Mar 23, 2012 9:53 AM, John Freer

Re: [MBZ] R107 chubb

2012-03-23 Thread Dan Penoff
Given the choice, I would opt for the 380, as it is a nice balance of economy and power. IMHO, the later V-8 models are detuned to the point of being worthless, not to mention they are far from efficient (if that term could be used to describe a V-8!) Dan On Mar 23, 2012, at 12:49 PM, clay

Re: [MBZ] R107 chubb

2012-03-23 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mar 23, 2012 10:18 AM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: All fresh hoses and rubber under the hood. PO was not mechanically inclined and just had dealer do all the work. ACC works, because the guy wanted the car fully functional and paid through the nose for that job.

Re: [MBZ] R107 chubb

2012-03-23 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mar 23, 2012 10:28 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Given the choice, I would opt for the 380, as it is a nice balance of economy and power. IMHO, the later V-8 models are detuned to the point of being worthless, Clearly you have not driven a 560 which has plenty of get-up-and-go

Re: [MBZ] R107 chubb

2012-03-23 Thread Dave in SoCal
I took the advice below to heart when I bought my '83 380SL. Not looking for controversy nor plan to defend Stu's reputation but I wouldn't underestimate the single row chain issue. Dave Stu Ritter wrote: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 15:49:46 Some thoughts about the single row chain in the 81-83 380

Re: [MBZ] R107 chubb

2012-03-23 Thread clay monroe
Very true that. I was looking at the swapping out of trans and diff to get the needed power. The later set makes up for how detuned the 560 was, but does not bolt on well to the older engine. Guess I take the 380 and de californicate it. Should be some bhp gain in losing the cat and other

Re: [MBZ] R107 chubb

2012-03-23 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mar 23, 2012 10:51 AM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Guess I take the 380 and de californicate it. My Euro 500 has no smoggery on it at all... Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] R107 chubb

2012-03-23 Thread clay monroe
I am jonesing for the early 450sl, since it is simple and sort of easy to work with. All the smog and ABS or computer mess is not for me. Seeing all the $ that replacing that stuff entails when it fails, just does not spark my plugs. A simple euro 280sl grey market with hand crank

Re: [MBZ] R107 chubb

2012-03-23 Thread clay monroe
I am not interested in power. I want a calm and agreeable ride. Remember, I am from the Gump school of car love. clay On Mar 23, 2012, at 10:45 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Mar 23, 2012 10:28 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Given the choice, I would opt for the 380, as it is a

Re: [MBZ] R107 chubb

2012-03-23 Thread Dan Penoff
My thinking exactly. If I wanted a race car, I would buy a Porsche. That's one of the reasons why the 380SEL appeals to me. A beautiful chassis with an engine that is relatively simple to service and economical to drive. Dan On Mar 23, 2012, at 1:58 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote:

Re: [MBZ] R107 chubb

2012-03-23 Thread Dan Penoff
No, I haven't, and I probably should have clarified my response to cover the 450SL only, which is the model I know the most about in the 107 line. I researched and inspected literally 30+ of these back in 2003-4 when I was seriously considering purchasing a 450SL. I saw so many negative things

Re: [MBZ] R107 chubb

2012-03-23 Thread John Freer
FWIW, here's a list of the upgrades to the 560SL from the previous R1076's. According to MB, the following are among the items that were changed for the 560SL (only version 107.048): Different spring rate Harder shocks with shorter travel Larger torsion bar (up 1mm to 26mm) Front axle carrier

Re: [MBZ] R107 chubb

2012-03-23 Thread Mitch Haley
In the case described below, I'm reasonably certain that the new chain on worn out sprockets was no better than, and probably worse than, leaving the old chain that was worn to match the sprockets installed. Now I'm left wondering what the crank and IP sprockets look like when we roll a new

[MBZ] R107 chubb

2012-03-22 Thread clay monroe
Been scouring the local R107 barrel. Finally found a true keeper. Of course it is at the stealer, is nigh perfect all around, and under $11k. Not mine yet. Has 120k miles, great paint, with three rock chips, glass has one rock chip. Second owner, with folder of records and all paperwork.

Re: [MBZ] R107 chubb

2012-03-22 Thread OK Don
Green coolant means a new radiator, and possibly a water pump. Oil on the hoo dpad might be from the breather having broken or come loose in the past - which also indicates that despite the low miles, the rings are frozen and leaking. Remember that unless they've been recently replaced, ALL the

Re: [MBZ] R107 chubb

2012-03-22 Thread Hendrik Fay
Personally I would rather see a car in it's natural state rather than detailed. Oil leaks are not natural and can be used as a bargaining tool, coolant colour depends on the manufacturer, Lemfoerders coolant for MB's is green. Looks like you're in a poker game with the sales person, ya gotta

Re: [MBZ] R107 chubb

2012-03-22 Thread clay monroe
This would be superb investment. As the thought is, you purchase either a good body or good engine. Been looking at examples that can say neither. This seems to be in the top 95% in both. Rubber body seals are soft and good. No visible evidence of any water intrusion. Might even be

Re: [MBZ] R107 chubb

2012-03-22 Thread Max
Year? 560? 380? 450? 350? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] R107 chubb

2012-03-22 Thread Kevin Kraly
Come on down to Vancouver and look this one over. http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/2908057854.html Not mine, no interest, ETC. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon 1977 240D 315Kmi, Liesel the Diesel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to