Re: [MBZ] Re - OT and long, Ethanol stuff from IBD

2008-03-14 Thread Curt Raymond
they replaced all the air filters in the place every month due to the sugar in the air... -Curt Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:13:11 -0400 From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Re - OT and long, Ethanol stuff from IBD To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL

[MBZ] Re - OT and long, Ethanol stuff from IBD

2008-03-14 Thread ned kleinhenz
I've looked into sugar beets. They potentially make a very high yield of ethanol per acre of crop. But beets only store for a few months. So economically, they are difficult because beets would require a high capital investment. Beets require either an ethanol plant 6X the size of a comparable

Re: [MBZ] Re - OT and long, Ethanol stuff from IBD

2008-03-13 Thread LarryT
- OT and long, Ethanol stuff from IBD Regarding the article Harry Watkins recently posted on this list - As an engineer in the ethanol industry (not ADM) this sort of propaganda just baits and irritates me. Walter Williams disappoints me with the way he takes some half-truths out of context

Re: [MBZ] Re - OT and long, Ethanol stuff from IBD

2008-03-13 Thread LarryT
Message - From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Re - OT and long, Ethanol stuff from IBD Very interesting. Good to hear from someone in the business. I think too often the media people

Re: [MBZ] Re - OT and long, Ethanol stuff from IBD

2008-03-13 Thread LarryT
Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Re - OT and long, Ethanol stuff from IBD ned kleinhenz wrote: 3. Each gallon of ethanol does not consume more than one gallon of fossil fuel to make it. This enduring misconception is based

Re: [MBZ] Re - OT and long, Ethanol stuff from IBD

2008-03-13 Thread LarryT
Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Re - OT and long, Ethanol stuff from IBD Thanks for this Ned, there is so

Re: [MBZ] Re - OT and long, Ethanol stuff from IBD

2008-03-13 Thread Mitch Haley
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[MBZ] Re - OT and long, Ethanol stuff from IBD

2008-03-12 Thread ned kleinhenz
Regarding the article Harry Watkins recently posted on this list - As an engineer in the ethanol industry (not ADM) this sort of propaganda just baits and irritates me. Walter Williams disappoints me with the way he takes some half-truths out of context and builds an entire misleading position.

Re: [MBZ] Re - OT and long, Ethanol stuff from IBD

2008-03-12 Thread John Robbins
ned kleinhenz wrote: 3. Each gallon of ethanol does not consume more than one gallon of fossil fuel to make it. This enduring misconception is based on a study that assumed efficiencies of early 20th century farming and whiskey making technologies. Recent USDA studies show that modern

Re: [MBZ] Re - OT and long, Ethanol stuff from IBD

2008-03-12 Thread R A Bennell
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of ned kleinhenz Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 1:01 PM To: Mercedes List Subject: [MBZ] Re - OT and long, Ethanol stuff from IBD Regarding the article Harry Watkins recently posted on this list - As an engineer in the ethanol industry (not ADM) this sort

Re: [MBZ] Re - OT and long, Ethanol stuff from IBD

2008-03-12 Thread Curt Raymond
well on my farm. -Curt Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:00:31 -0400 From: ned kleinhenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Re - OT and long, Ethanol stuff from IBD To: Mercedes List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Regarding

Re: [MBZ] Re - OT and long, Ethanol stuff from IBD

2008-03-12 Thread Bill R
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:01 PM To: Mercedes List Subject: [MBZ] Re - OT and long, Ethanol stuff from IBD Regarding the article Harry Watkins recently posted on this list - As an engineer in the ethanol industry (not ADM) this sort of propaganda just baits and irritates me. Walter Williams

Re: [MBZ] Re - OT and long, Ethanol stuff from IBD

2008-03-12 Thread Rich Thomas
You be makin that stuff and the revenooers will come findin yer moonshinin ass and puttin you in da pokey. Though I do understand there is quite a little hobby community who are making their own ethanol-containing spiritous beverages these days, mostly in the kitchen not out in the woods, not

Re: [MBZ] Re - OT and long, Ethanol stuff from IBD

2008-03-12 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Though I do understand there is quite a little hobby community who are making their own ethanol-containing spiritous beverages these days, mostly in the kitchen not out in the woods, not that I would know much about that

Re: [MBZ] Re - OT and long, Ethanol stuff from IBD

2008-03-12 Thread Tom Hargrave
PROTECTED] Received: 3/12/08 3:54 PM To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] Re - OT and long, Ethanol stuff from IBD Thanks for this Ned, there is so much disinformation about this out there I dispair... A friend of mine said the other day he'd seen plans for an ethanol still

Re: [MBZ] Re - OT and long, Ethanol stuff from IBD

2008-03-12 Thread Tom Hargrave
- OT and long, Ethanol stuff from IBD On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Though I do understand there is quite a little hobby community who are making their own ethanol-containing spiritous beverages these days, mostly in the kitchen not out in the woods